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legendary
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Just had my farm running 100% for some few hours after I got a shipment back from Bitmain. 2 x S9 boards and 5 x S7 boards...
Now one S9 miner just lost 2 boards, so 100% was just a short luck.... I hate these S9`s with the BMiner 2.0
Just noticed if I try to downgrade firmware I get a firmware failure....

yikes.  My final S7 is getting replaced by an S9 tomorrow or Tuesday when it arrives from UPS.  I tried waiting for an alternative but there just isn't one.  I hate to replace this S7 too, it is an early batch S7 with the extra chips and has been running OC'd past 5 Th/s since about the 3rd of 4th week I had it and never had a problem, even found a block here last spring.  I sure hope this S9 is problem free for me.  
legendary
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Offtopic - my question to "organofcorti"...
Its not always, I see pioneer members like "organofcorti" commenting on a "small topic" like this one on "S9 bad luck" Cheesy; I would like his comment and long term outlook, on the lack of mining equipment and monopoly of a single vendor in this industry. Recently, my investors and I, frustrated with Bitmain and sub-par S9s, we forgo buying more S9s, and invested in more GPU rigs for ETH and ZEC mining. I forsee that this is going be a key sanity check for miners in general. What is your opinion?

Thanks

citronick


Mining luck is never off topic on this board, and it's not a small topic. In fact (as long term miners will tell you) it's a bit of a hobby horse for me, dating back to the 2011 (unfounded) accusations of malfeasance against BTC Guild after a period of bad luck on that pool. I've written a little introduction to mining luck here: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2015/07/faq-bitcoin-mining-and-luck-statistic.html

As for your actual (and offtopic) question, my opinion (and it's just that) is that rather than miners moving to altcoins, a market leader in btc mining equipment that creates a poor product and provides no recompense to customers is likely to provide fertile soil for the entry of a new manufacturer of btc mining equipment.

I tossed a fourth blade yesterday.

So I am still waiting for a replacement for the blade I sent in to bitmainwarranty on OCT 4th they acknowledge receipt on Oct 6th.

That blade is out of warranty and I was willing to pay to repair it.

The blade I tossed is out of warranty.  So how do I send it in when it is 21 days on the last blade.

So I am down 2 blades .

While this is off topic the s9 is the only viable miner at this moment.

So I will mine with the solar array we are now using 18 amps.  we have  72 amps available.
Options are add more (blank coin) gpus.  or hold my 20+ coins  and wait for a new company to add miners.

So far the holding is not painful  as we are near 700 usd.

And  so far BTC has hung in the game as the leader  coin despite Bitmaintech's  s9 monopoly.

I am hoping for coins to soon go to 800 usd.  my 20btc  will be over  16k  which is better then mining.



Just had my farm running 100% for some few hours after I got a shipment back from Bitmain. 2 x S9 boards and 5 x S7 boards...
Now one S9 miner just lost 2 boards, so 100% was just a short luck.... I hate these S9`s with the BMiner 2.0
Just noticed if I try to downgrade firmware I get a firmware failure....
legendary
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Think for yourself
I also had a problem when my full node shut down,I guess because an attack,but I restarted it and it is now back to normal.
How do you guys handle attacks?

What makes you think it was an "attack"?

BitcoinQT .10 and above really suck.  I had .9.5 and earlier versions running for months at a time with no problems.  But the newer versions run for a day or two to maybe a week or so then either crash or consume all CPU power and dog the system completely down.

So, do you have evidence that leads you to think it was an attack?
hero member
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That would not work for several reasons but primarily, where would the prizes come from?
You are not doing anything special by using the best miner so why should you get a prize for it?  Smiley
full member
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Come on back, you know you want to, and we all want you to.  Smiley

I know many of you are worried about the S9's, but there has yet to be any proof that there is anything terribly amiss with them.

Kano has all the numbers and here is his comment (Pay particular attention to the bold):

They do have the worst luck and the worst CDF on the pool for miner types connected directly to the pool.
But the numbers aren't in the realms of improbability - and it doesn't include any using proxies.

Kano,
You say they have the worst luck and worst CDF of miners connected to the pool.
Have you run luck and CDF numbers for each type of ASIC mining at the pool? S3's, S4's A4's, A6's, SP20's, etc?
Just curious what the luckiest miners are.

A miner type leader board... would be interesting, yes?
Yes,and also a monthly prizes for the best miners will be great.
I also had a problem when my full node shut down,I guess because an attack,but I restarted it and it is now back to normal.
How do you guys handle attacks?
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
Come on back, you know you want to, and we all want you to.  Smiley

I know many of you are worried about the S9's, but there has yet to be any proof that there is anything terribly amiss with them.

Kano has all the numbers and here is his comment (Pay particular attention to the bold):

They do have the worst luck and the worst CDF on the pool for miner types connected directly to the pool.
But the numbers aren't in the realms of improbability - and it doesn't include any using proxies.

Kano,
You say they have the worst luck and worst CDF of miners connected to the pool.
Have you run luck and CDF numbers for each type of ASIC mining at the pool? S3's, S4's A4's, A6's, SP20's, etc?
Just curious what the luckiest miners are.

A miner type leader board... would be interesting, yes?
legendary
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Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
I see Juvia is in the building...

Welcome back, Citronick!  Kiss

Lessons Learnt from Juvia's short holiday.... & random thoughts.


1. 300PHs pool vs 30PHs pool = same excitement during the good days, same agonizing feeling during bad days.

2. That random lucky miner grabs that block for the pool, irregardless of its lucky factor - every dog/miner has its days. There is no such thing as a unlucky block solving share...

3. If there was a "most minimalist yet functional front-end" -- Kano will win it hands down. Pretty pool vs Simple pool - I will take the no frills, lightning speed any time.

4. I wish I setup the farm with proxy server from day 1... moving pools manually is PITA

5. Like it or not, S9 is still the miner to beat as far as price/hash/power consumption - I cant say the same for her quality levels and support, although I have successfully politely arm twisted them for 2 hash boards - FOC. The need for a strong competitor is crucially needed now... because I will expand non-BTC mining operations if we dont see a viable competitor in 6 months.

6. A brief visit to a kano pool clone, got me a personal account manager complete with Whatsapp interaction etc. ---- duhhh, I want BTC not TLC. I swear, 1 hour into joining this pool, Juvia solved a block for the pool but... all I hear are crickets sounds because this pool dont have a Bitcointalk thread.... missing the chicken brigade at kano.

7. Pings from my ISP to the pools were surprisingly fast. ie. like xx ms -- double digit aint too bad.

8. Yes, Juvia did visit the mothership and got a couple of BTCs during her stay - nothing special although almost 30 blocks in one day would be nice at kano...

9. most important lesson is, IMHO, there's more to a pool than just a webpage and slick coding.... the international diverse community, knowledge sharing, the OPs, the topics, dramas and controversies, handling sensitive topics and issues, new friends and acquaintances, etc =  I think besides earning BTCs, these are the reasons for miners probably justify their long term or short term stay at any pool

hero member
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Come on back, you know you want to, and we all want you to.  Smiley

I know many of you are worried about the S9's, but there has yet to be any proof that there is anything terribly amiss with them.

Kano has all the numbers and here is his comment (Pay particular attention to the bold):

They do have the worst luck and the worst CDF on the pool for miner types connected directly to the pool.
But the numbers aren't in the realms of improbability - and it doesn't include any using proxies.

Kano,
You say they have the worst luck and worst CDF of miners connected to the pool.
Have you run luck and CDF numbers for each type of ASIC mining at the pool? S3's, S4's A4's, A6's, SP20's, etc?
Just curious what the luckiest miners are.
sr. member
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I see Juvia is in the building...

Welcome back, Citronick!  Kiss

That may prompt my return. I know my blocks hit are consistent with what they should be. But my hardware is mostly s9's. I guess until we have long term data, it is a crap shoot.
legendary
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I see Juvia is in the building...

Welcome back, Citronick!  Kiss
member
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Block! by altonoff. This is our 3nd of the day)
legendary
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How much can I earn from this pool.


More than you will anywhere else if you allow it to work for you...
...In summary you may use any mining calculator to estimate your daily earnings. You may use such and get the same information every average miner uses and depending on how it is used convince yourself you are better off ming somewhere else.
Or
You may spend some time making your own detailed, personalized Pros / Cons list along with researching which pool is going to address the real concerns of your mining experience. I am confident  you will find the $/TH while being an important variable is a single item in an army of items everyone should consider.

Good Luck and happy mining. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
 
Sloopy said what all of us I think feel...sorry for the flippant responses up front...it's just that we see those sorts of questions on a more or less regular basis, and sometimes just can't help trying to be jocular...you are welcome here, and in all veracity you will indeed do better here over the longer term than anywhere else.

Again, as Sloopy (and many others) will second...it's important to build some time on this pool. 5Nd is a wonderful policy that goes a long way to smoothing out the overall pool performance, and to helping stabilize individual mining returns. It can take a couple of days to reach your full hash share rate, so don't get discouraged.

Mine on...
hero member
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Just noticed ... after the Monthly Statistics/Block Statistics table started to turn green , we got a lot of extra hash power Smiley
hero member
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
How much can I earn from this pool.


More than you will anywhere else if you allow it to work for you.
On a separate valuable item, how much is it worth to receive real support?
By "real" my experience has been logical, comprehensive, honest, above and beyond support for this pool but support for external factors, a true understanding of the software running on almost every piece of mining hardware in existence (The Pool operator and moderator here wrote not only the pool front and back ends but also wrote CGMINER which is the software running on your miner(s)), timely, here on the forum and IRC, private messages, and personalized.

How much more value is added via pool software which is intuitive, simplistic yet powerful enough to attract extremely large private and public mining corporations / companies / individuals? It is vetted via highly trusted community members.

Even more! Announced maintenance time to begin and not only projected completion but confirmation upon such. Information regarding issues, addition of features and potential issues.

Consider past luck is not indicative of future performance but many people often wonder aloud how the hell this pool outperforms consistently and long block times fall within expectations but normally have consistent "luck" recoveries with back to back block solutions.  

Also consider the pool fee. The pool consistently outperforms  every other pools (I personally need to check every single pool to use the phrase every other pool and define a specific time frame. However I am confident in stating it outperforms every major PPS pool and the pool software shows equivalent PPLNS to PPS payouts which is a tremendous statistic to use when in doubt or making comparisons to pools who charge 3% or more.

Coming back around to your specific question consider how important transaction fees are today to miners (and IF those fees are not eventually stolen from all miners like you and I by BAD companies and programming the fees paid to KANO.IS miners are huge. For example to send 1 Bitcoin this morning and in order to be confident my trnsaction would be included right away / listed as "higly likely" in the next solved block by the network the recomendation was a $3.42 USD fee. This is ONE transaction out of how many? Do you know? Kano's blocks are not only jammed full today it has been an obvious priority. Other pools keep the fees and even then mine empty blocks consisently when the only time you should see a somewhat empty block is when the same pool has immediate back to back block solves. Here at Kano under that scenario we still see obvious superiority in skills when that immediate solution has those fees stuffed in for you and I.

There are servers at significant locations all over the world, constantly evaluated with not only a simple "this server is up or down" indication (a lit / unlit button or line of text on some hard to find screen location) but we receive customized, detailed information regarding which server, the exact nature of the issue with the server, details regarding failover, and if not always then normally a specific estimated down time.

This pool relative to others has an above-average group of positive miners who are here everyday. These folks are not only active, they are intelligent. I am not generalizing, I read all of the pool threads here and other forums. This group is more active and has the experience to assist with a myriad of both hardware and software. People who have been mining since 2010 2011 and many more along the way. Many like Phillip who puts his hands on the latest hardware, and others who can tell you the best hosting locations if that is your thing.

A great analogy is treasure hunting. You must put in months of research before you ever dive in an ocean or ever start to dig a hole, but here people have already determined where to dive and dig along with the best tools to use. Unlike Treasure Hunting the best information here is given away freely. You simply determine how to apply it to your situation.

In summary you may use any mining calculator to estimate your daily earnings. You may use such and get the same information every average miner uses and depending on how it is used convince yourself you are better off ming somewhere else.
Or
You may spend some time making your own detailed, personalized Pros / Cons list along with researching which pool is going to address the real concerns of your mining experience. I am confident  you will find the $/TH while being an important variable is a single item in an army of items everyone should consider.

Good Luck and happy mining. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
 
legendary
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legendary
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I should have waited to pay my hosting fees
I didn't get the bill until spot went to $719...nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block! by mackfe22 Smiley

Good job mackfe22 with 52TH/s!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  This is our 2nd of the day!  Cheesy
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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block! by mackfe22 with 50th
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How much can I earn from this pool.
this much <------>


You sir are wrong!  It is this much:     < ? >
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