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Quote from: Sierra8561 on October 21, 2016, 06:55:44 PM

Kano it would be interesting to know if s9's are in some way having a negative effect on your pool. If they are it would be in the best interest of the pool that they go somewhere else including mine. Just curious.

Well for miner types directly connected to the pool (not via a proxy)

Since they first existed:
67.76844935 BDR for 60 blocks - so not excellent, but not impossible: CDF[Erl] 0.842606

Since the halving (excluding the data before the halving):
63.99816529 BDR for 57 blocks CDF[Erl] 0.825166 (thus a little better)
But since the halving there are worse - the longer term figures are (usually) statistically more relevant

(there seems to be a v2 bmminer that's found no blocks so far, but the BDR is only 0.07520162)

They do have the worst luck and the worst CDF on the pool for miner types connected directly to the pool.
But the numbers aren't in the realms of improbability - and it doesn't include any using proxies.

However there is (only) one "proxy type" with a worse CDF
stratehm-stratum-proxy-0.8.0 7.76724928 BDR 3 blocks: CDF[Erl] 0.983517

Sierra8561

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Kano it would be interesting to know if s9's are in some way having a negative effect on your pool. If they are it would be in the best interest of the pool that they go somewhere else including mine. Just curious.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: clgrissom3 on October 21, 2016, 03:25:50 PM

Quote from: elokk on October 21, 2016, 12:27:59 PM

#4 and counting....

wan0220

Wow, 4 blocks today! 14 out of our last 15 blocks have all been 13+ block rewards! Also, 16 of the last 20 have been 13+ Cheesy

Indeed...and my per block revenue is 60% higher now than it was in Aug when the pool rate was around 40. My math tells me I'm still breaking even comparatively, at the worst case. Haven't been able to run any thorough guesswork, though. Roll Eyes

'Scuse while I go bleed a brake cylinder or two...or four.

C'mon, blocks!

C'mon, A7!

clgrissom3

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Quote from: elokk on October 21, 2016, 12:27:59 PM

#4 and counting....

wan0220

Wow, 4 blocks today! 14 out of our last 15 blocks have all been 13+ block rewards! Also, 16 of the last 20 have been 13+ Cheesy

Biodom

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 21, 2016, 01:03:58 PM

Quote from: Biodom on October 21, 2016, 12:29:13 PM

not claiming post hoc ergo propter hoc, but bad luck period almost exactly correlates in time with S9 and BM miner introduction.
We shall see if it continues or not. I am willing to give it another two-three mo and see if it/luck goes to 98-99%.

Well to be fully fair one would need to see all pools since the s9 assuming the s9 has a clever piece of software that hurts pool x but not pools y and z.

Kano has stated s-9's seem to have bad luck on this pool so far.
the real question is not that .

it is what about all the other pools.

If indeed the s9 mining software intentionally works poorly with kano and all ckpool software is a good question to know the answer to.

BTW right before the ½ ing we were monster killer hot and the s9 was out in the field in smaller %

question re other pools is too difficult to crack, especially if you are just a miner.
I was actually trying to look at real time stats after the block (by others). There is something strange (like significant RT hash rate drop) going on right then, but maybe it is just interface glitches, it is difficult to say. Could be perfectly normal. Next time i decide to check it, i will try to see if S9 are affected differently by this than S7 (probably not).

philipma1957

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Quote from: Biodom on October 21, 2016, 12:29:13 PM

not claiming post hoc ergo propter hoc, but bad luck period almost exactly correlates in time with S9 and BM miner introduction.
We shall see if it continues or not. I am willing to give it another two-three mo and see if it/luck goes to 98-99%.

Well to be fully fair one would need to see all pools since the s9 assuming the s9 has a clever piece of software that hurts pool x but not pools y and z.

Kano has stated s-9's seem to have bad luck on this pool so far.
the real question is not that .

it is what about all the other pools.

If indeed the s9 mining software intentionally works poorly with kano and all ckpool software is a good question to know the answer to.

BTW right before the ½ ing we were monster killer hot and the s9 was out in the field in smaller %

Biodom

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not claiming post hoc ergo propter hoc, but bad luck period almost exactly correlates in time with S9 and BM miner introduction.
We shall see if it continues or not. I am willing to give it another two-three mo and see if it/luck goes to 98-99%.

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YES!!

elokk

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#4 and counting....

wan0220

firetreeactual

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If you are trying to follow Canaan on Twitter...they (Twitter and Reddit) were the subject of a DDoS DNS attack late yesterday. Seems Twitter isn't quite back together yet. Undecided

citronick

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so happy.... 3 blocks today ... Cheesy

elokk

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and another block

Thank you REWS5559 Grin

philipma1957

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Quote from: d57heinz on October 21, 2016, 10:14:26 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on October 21, 2016, 09:24:38 AM

Quote from: kspare on October 21, 2016, 07:46:10 AM

not necessarily, this is a numbers game, the more players you have at the table, the better the odds of finding a block. If what you were saying were true it would make just as much sense to just mine solo vs mining here.

Not really.

30ph should earn 29.18 btc a day or 2.3344 blocks a day.

My 24th should earn .02335 btc a day or 0.001868 blocks a day that means if I solo mine it takes about 535 days to hit a block.

Big pools of 10% have less variance.

Little pools of 1% have more variance.

If all my wishes came true kano would be 8% of the network and have 107% lifetime luck.

We are now at 1.7% of the network with 103.75% lifetime luck.

Here's how I see it. yea you could solo mine by yourself with 24ths. And prolly you won't hit a block for the whole period. Hell with bad luck it could take twenty years to find one solo. 10x diff is about as high as I've personally witnessed variance to reach. Now here is where luck and statistics play in. If we take that same 24 ths which is prolly two workers being s9s. If I point those to solock and it has only 1200 workers then my worker has a 1/600 chance of being the worker that is served the proper work for returning back the block that ck finds. Yes ck doesn't find as many blocks but being as I have 5 workers out of 1200 or so workers then I have roughly a 1/300 chance of being the one that pops the block for the pool. And I have those odds each and every block ck solo finds. Then when you factor in that you get full reward! I for one am glad I went solo I popped two blocks with 34 the in less than two months at current diff. So it's possible and once you do it makes it hard to go back to a pool.

Best Regards
d57heinz

I think there was a 1200% block which would mean 12 x 535 = 6420 days for a solo if diff was flat would be worst case luck.

that is 17 years vs normal luck of 1.7 years or 10 miuntes with god like luck.

I hit my fair share of solo blocks.

3 at ck's pool but I had partners and netted 21 of the 75 ~~blocks.~~ coins

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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 21, 2016, 09:24:38 AM

Quote from: kspare on October 21, 2016, 07:46:10 AM

not necessarily, this is a numbers game, the more players you have at the table, the better the odds of finding a block. If what you were saying were true it would make just as much sense to just mine solo vs mining here.

Not really.

30ph should earn 29.18 btc a day or 2.3344 blocks a day.

My 24th should earn .02335 btc a day or 0.001868 blocks a day that means if I solo mine it takes about 535 days to hit a block.

Big pools of 10% have less variance.

Little pools of 1% have more variance.

If all my wishes came true kano would be 8% of the network and have 107% lifetime luck.

We are now at 1.7% of the network with 103.75% lifetime luck.

Here's how I see it. yea you could solo mine by yourself with 24ths. And prolly you won't hit a block for the whole period. Hell with bad luck it could take twenty years to find one solo. 10x diff is about as high as I've personally witnessed variance to reach. Now here is where luck and statistics play in. If we take that same 24 ths which is prolly two workers being s9s. If I point those to solock and it has only 1200 workers then my worker has a 1/600 chance of being the worker that is served the proper work for returning back the block that ck finds. Yes ck doesn't find as many blocks but being as I have 5 workers out of 1200 or so workers then I have roughly a 1/300 chance of being the one that pops the block for the pool. And I have those odds each and every block ck solo finds. Then when you factor in that you get full reward! I for one am glad I went solo I popped two blocks with 34 the in less than two months at current diff. So it's possible and once you do it makes it hard to go back to a pool.

Best Regards
d57heinz

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Quote from: kspare on October 21, 2016, 07:46:10 AM

not necessarily, this is a numbers game, the more players you have at the table, the better the odds of finding a block. If what you were saying were true it would make just as much sense to just mine solo vs mining here.

Well, yeah it does make sens to solo mine. The only problem is that it may take several years to find a block, which is why people join pools.

Your XYZ H/s will make the same either way (,assuming it runs for a long enough time span,) unless you're really lucky or you join a pool that's really lucky.

Let's take Phillipma's numbers

He could either mine a kano or solo mine for 535 days:

Code:

Mining at kano =  ~.02335/day

535*0.2335=12.4995

Solo mining a block = ~535 days

One block being ~12.5

In other words, he's expected to earn the same either way.

philipma1957

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Quote from: kspare on October 21, 2016, 07:46:10 AM

not necessarily, this is a numbers game, the more players you have at the table, the better the odds of finding a block. If what you were saying were true it would make just as much sense to just mine solo vs mining here.

Not really.

30ph should earn 29.18 btc a day or 2.3344 blocks a day.

My 24th should earn .02335 btc a day or 0.001868 blocks a day that means if I solo mine it takes about 535 days to hit a block.

Big pools of 10% have less variance.

Little pools of 1% have more variance.

If all my wishes came true kano would be 8% of the network and have 107% lifetime luck.

We are now at 1.7% of the network with 103.75% lifetime luck.

kspare

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not necessarily, this is a numbers game, the more players you have at the table, the better the odds of finding a block. If what you were saying were true it would make just as much sense to just mine solo vs mining here.

PantminerS7

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Restart completed, no problems (and no miners affected)
Restart was from 11:30:42 UTC to 11:39:52 (just over 9 minutes)
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Kano,

We need to get some of our heavy hitters back. Have you thought of emailing the people who dropped off and letting them know what happened over the past few weeks and that we are back on track?
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We're all personally going to earn the same anyway.

The only difference is that there would be more blocks with more hashpower. However, more hashpower also means that the block rewards have to be shared among more users, meaning you would earn more or less the same either way.

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: Newko on October 21, 2016, 06:52:56 AM

Block! Finally cracked that bad boy!
[EDIT] Thank you Idaan.z19 !

Okay, let's get Block Friday rolling! We are due! Cheesy

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