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Xircom

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Quote from: kano on May 16, 2016, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: citronick on May 16, 2016, 09:36:57 AM

I was helping some my friends get the miners tuned in the pool, and I just noticed "Kano" and "ckolivas" in the pool stats.

Since joining the pool last Dec, it never cross my mind to check.

Kano with 3.97THs and ck with 3.38THs .... I wonder what miner HW are they using? Avalons? Test miners?

Me: Avalon A6 since last Dec - it was 2 until I blew a board on one of them a couple of weeks ago and haven't got around to running it as a half A6 yet

--

I've created a dk.kano.is node, in EU, like the de.kano.is node.

Consider it a test replacement for de.kano.is but I'll run both for probably at least a couple of weeks to see how they compare in reliability.
It is, however, another ~20ms further away from the main pool node in Vegas

If you wish to try it, just replace 'de.kano.is' with 'dk.kano.is'

Since they are both relatively close, you could make one the primary and the 2nd one your first backup.
Anyway, the point is of course to replace the de node, since linode isn't reliable enough, and we'll see how dk compares to de.

What does those 20ms longer away from main server means in practice ?

Xircom

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Quote from: kano on May 16, 2016, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: citronick on May 16, 2016, 09:36:57 AM

I was helping some my friends get the miners tuned in the pool, and I just noticed "Kano" and "ckolivas" in the pool stats.

Since joining the pool last Dec, it never cross my mind to check.

Kano with 3.97THs and ck with 3.38THs .... I wonder what miner HW are they using? Avalons? Test miners?

Me: Avalon A6 since last Dec - it was 2 until I blew a board on one of them a couple of weeks ago and haven't got around to running it as a half A6 yet

--

I've created a dk.kano.is node, in EU, like the de.kano.is node.

Consider it a test replacement for de.kano.is but I'll run both for probably at least a couple of weeks to see how they compare in reliability.
It is, however, another ~20ms further away from the main pool node in Vegas

If you wish to try it, just replace 'de.kano.is' with 'dk.kano.is'

Since they are both relatively close, you could make one the primary and the 2nd one your first backup.
Anyway, the point is of course to replace the de node, since linode isn't reliable enough, and we'll see how dk compares to de.

WOW...is that Dk node up running ?
I get 25ms on the DK node, impressing :-) (From Iceland)
230TH redirected to DK node.

zOU

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★ these are stars ★

I got my S7 power supply delivered on friday and I'm now waiting for the S7.
It ha been delayed because DHL had no clue what a "bitcoin miner" is.
(as if they couldn't Google it...)
It took a few email exchange (and a tax payment) to get it cleared out of customs.

Expecting it tomorrow now... 3 days lost...

HagssFIN

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Quote from: kano on May 16, 2016, 10:32:04 AM

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I've created a dk.kano.is node, in EU, like the de.kano.is node.

Consider it a test replacement for de.kano.is but I'll run both for probably at least a couple of weeks to see how they compare in reliability.
It is, however, another ~20ms further away from the main pool node in Vegas

If you wish to try it, just replace 'de.kano.is' with 'dk.kano.is'

Since they are both relatively close, you could make one the primary and the 2nd one your first backup.
Anyway, the point is of course to replace the de node, since linode isn't reliable enough, and we'll see how dk compares to de.

This is good news, at least for miners in the Nordic countries

I'm from Finland and here is a short latency comparison:
de.kano.is - 50ms
dk.kano.is - 39ms

BannedDK

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Quote from: kano on May 16, 2016, 10:32:04 AM

Quote from: citronick on May 16, 2016, 09:36:57 AM

I was helping some my friends get the miners tuned in the pool, and I just noticed "Kano" and "ckolivas" in the pool stats.

Since joining the pool last Dec, it never cross my mind to check.

Kano with 3.97THs and ck with 3.38THs .... I wonder what miner HW are they using? Avalons? Test miners?

Me: Avalon A6 since last Dec - it was 2 until I blew a board on one of them a couple of weeks ago and haven't got around to running it as a half A6 yet

--

I've created a dk.kano.is node, in EU, like the de.kano.is node.

Consider it a test replacement for de.kano.is but I'll run both for probably at least a couple of weeks to see how they compare in reliability.
It is, however, another ~20ms further away from the main pool node in Vegas

If you wish to try it, just replace 'de.kano.is' with 'dk.kano.is'

Since they are both relatively close, you could make one the primary and the 2nd one your first backup.
Anyway, the point is of course to replace the de node, since linode isn't reliable enough, and we'll see how dk compares to de.

i live in dk

C:\>ping de.kano.is

Pinger de.kano.is [139.162.142.254] med 32 byte data:
Svar fra 139.162.142.254: byte=32 tid=29ms TTL=56
Svar fra 139.162.142.254: byte=32 tid=27ms TTL=56
Svar fra 139.162.142.254: byte=32 tid=26ms TTL=56
Svar fra 139.162.142.254: byte=32 tid=27ms TTL=56

Ping-statistikker for 139.162.142.254:
Pakker: Sendt = 4, modtaget = 4, tabt = 0 (0% tab),
Beregnet tid for rundtur i millisekunder:
Minimum = 26ms, Maksimum = 29ms, Gennemsnitlig = 27ms

C:\>ping dk.kano.is

Pinger dk.kano.is [185.121.174.75] med 32 byte data:
Svar fra 185.121.174.75: byte=32 tid=25ms TTL=57
Svar fra 185.121.174.75: byte=32 tid=24ms TTL=57
Svar fra 185.121.174.75: byte=32 tid=24ms TTL=57
Svar fra 185.121.174.75: byte=32 tid=25ms TTL=57

Ping-statistikker for 185.121.174.75:
Pakker: Sendt = 4, modtaget = 4, tabt = 0 (0% tab),
Beregnet tid for rundtur i millisekunder:
Minimum = 24ms, Maksimum = 25ms, Gennemsnitlig = 24ms

wmabern

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Quote from: kano on May 16, 2016, 10:34:46 AM

That top miner seems to be hardware, not rental.
I very much doubt anyone would point that much hardware at the pool and not want to be finding blocks.

Thanks. Good to know.
I was just curious and not casting blame. We can't see those things from this end.

kano

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That top miner seems to be hardware, not rental.
I very much doubt anyone would point that much hardware at the pool and not want to be finding blocks.

kano

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Quote from: citronick on May 16, 2016, 09:36:57 AM

I was helping some my friends get the miners tuned in the pool, and I just noticed "Kano" and "ckolivas" in the pool stats.

Since joining the pool last Dec, it never cross my mind to check.

Kano with 3.97THs and ck with 3.38THs .... I wonder what miner HW are they using? Avalons? Test miners?

Me: Avalon A6 since last Dec - it was 2 until I blew a board on one of them a couple of weeks ago and haven't got around to running it as a half A6 yet

--

I've created a dk.kano.is node, in EU, like the de.kano.is node.

Consider it a test replacement for de.kano.is but I'll run both for probably at least a couple of weeks to see how they compare in reliability.
It is, however, another ~20ms further away from the main pool node in Vegas

If you wish to try it, just replace 'de.kano.is' with 'dk.kano.is'

Since they are both relatively close, you could make one the primary and the 2nd one your first backup.
Anyway, the point is of course to replace the de node, since linode isn't reliable enough, and we'll see how dk compares to de.

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Quote from: wmabern on May 16, 2016, 10:23:04 AM

Quote from: not.you on May 14, 2016, 03:05:08 PM

I would like to see that 5.5 Ph\s miner hit something. Right now they are making a tidy bit from the pool but we don't yet know if they are really contributing.

Is there anything suspicious about that miner that you could think of? They have been here a couple of days and not hit anything. As far as I know they got here Saturday.

The luck sure has slowed down since Saturday's block spree.
Just curious if anyone knows if they have been here before. ??

5 Peta could take 2-3 weeks before hitting a block. (You know bad luck)

Please stop pointing miners because they don't hit a block.

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Quote from: not.you on May 14, 2016, 03:05:08 PM

I would like to see that 5.5 Ph\s miner hit something. Right now they are making a tidy bit from the pool but we don't yet know if they are really contributing.

Is there anything suspicious about that miner that you could think of? They have been here a couple of days and not hit anything. As far as I know they got here Saturday.

The luck sure has slowed down since Saturday's block spree.
Just curious if anyone knows if they have been here before. ??

citronick

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I was helping some my friends get the miners tuned in the pool, and I just noticed "Kano" and "ckolivas" in the pool stats.

Since joining the pool last Dec, it never cross my mind to check.

Kano with 3.97THs and ck with 3.38THs .... I wonder what miner HW are they using? Avalons? Test miners?

VRobb

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Kano-san has already stated he won't be doing anything like that, besides we've got great giveaways going here as it is, so let's all keep calm and mine on!

Newko

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The pool is fine the way it is. Paying a premium to the person who finds a block to dissuade block withholding is essentially paying a bribe - like paying "the mob" "insurance money" to make sure nothing bad happens to your store (no offense - I appreciate that you're offering ideas). Kano does multiple checks and statistics to stay on top of this - I trust his skills and efforts. Now, how about another block? I need some green Grin

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Kinda glad I need heating at present - cos thats all I'm getting. (Edit - no but wait - a BLOCK).

And as for changing things like rewards for block scorers - NO WAY - I like it just the way it is.

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Quote from: dance191 on May 16, 2016, 01:34:18 AM

Quote from: Efficiency V on May 15, 2016, 02:38:48 PM

Quote from: usukan on May 15, 2016, 02:09:12 AM

Block solvers do not get an extra reward.

Kind of off topic, but I think it would be interesting if a pool did provide a small reward to the actual person that find the block. Nothing big, just something to make it interesting and even more of an intensive to have a high overall hash rate to be the finder. Possibly a slightly larger portion of the 25 btc than they would have received.. or half the transaction fee amount gained. The pool would need to of course be transparent as to who the user name or some ID of the finder and the extra reward they received. Surprised no pool as implemented something like this yet.

I think this is a great idea, if nothing else it is really the only way to effectively stop (or severely discourage) a block withholding attack.

Say the person who finds the block gets 50% of the block, everyone else splits the other 50%. Well, if you perform a block withholding attack, you would hurt the pool, but you would hurt yourself as well as you would get rewarded for 50% of your shares and no reward for blocks (as you withhold them). This hurts the pool, but hurts the withholder a great deal as well. Under the current system, any block withholder gets 100% for their shares (more or less, depending on luck) and has no contribution to the pool. Perfect for a block withholder to come in and mess things up.

I'm not saying change the whole pool, but maybe a new pool with a 50/50 option would be nice. A sort of half pooled mining/half solo mining. It might be the best of all worlds - the steady income from the pooled mining with the security of solo mining (people would be crazy to block withhold and solo mine).

Personally, I think this is the best way to deal with the biggest threat to the pool. Anything that makes the pool more secure and helps to guarantee luck is a good thing in my book.

That's Just dumb, if any block withholding is done, its just done to be just detrimental to the pool, someone is shooting themseleves in the foot but causing a larger entity(this pool) to bleed out. IE.. lose hashing power and confidence... Your idea would negate most gains of the smaller miners here that have a low chance of hitting a block and picked this place because of maximum return, if you want that make your own pool... i just dont see how thats a good idea
i'm happy with the way it is. when this place is hittin blocks its awesome, no other pool compare

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Quote from: donatebitcointome on May 16, 2016, 01:47:34 AM

I think I've read this somewhere in P2pool already implement this except it only give 0.5% more to the block finder NOT 50%. I might be wrong.

It could be 50/50, or maybe something else like 80/20, I don't know. Just something that hurts the block withholder enough to severely discourage it, while getting the steady payout of a pool. I just threw 50/50 out there, but maybe something else is better. I don't know the exact sweet spot that would discourage a block withholder. I image a block withholder getting 80% would give up rather quickly and make it not sustainable.

The other thing that would seal the deal is to block hash rentals as they might unknowingly perform an attack. However, even under the 80/20 system, any dishonest hash rentals might get paid a low enough amount as to make hash rentals not profitable, so that problem might be solved automatically with an 80/20 payout.

Just been thinking these things over, contemplating the pros and cons of pooled mining versus solo mining as they each have advantages. There might be a sweet spot that has all of the advantages and little to no disadvantages.

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Quote from: dance191 on May 16, 2016, 01:34:18 AM

I think this is a great idea, if nothing else it is really the only way to effectively stop (or severely discourage) a block withholding attack.

Say the person who finds the block gets 50% of the block, everyone else splits the other 50%. Well, if you perform a block withholding attack, you would hurt the pool, but you would hurt yourself as well as you would get rewarded for 50% of your shares and no reward for blocks (as you withhold them). This hurts the pool, but hurts the withholder a great deal as well. Under the current system, any block withholder gets 100% for their shares (more or less, depending on luck) and has no contribution to the pool. Perfect for a block withholder to come in and mess things up.

I'm not saying change the whole pool, but maybe a new pool with a 50/50 option would be nice. A sort of half pooled mining/half solo mining. It might be the best of all worlds - the steady income from the pooled mining with the security of solo mining (people would be crazy to block withhold and solo mine).

Personally, I think this is the best way to deal with the biggest threat to the pool. Anything that makes the pool more secure and helps to guarantee luck is a good thing in my book.

I think I've read this somewhere in P2pool already implement this except it only give 0.5% more to the block finder NOT 50%. I might be wrong.

dance191

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Quote from: Efficiency V on May 15, 2016, 02:38:48 PM

Quote from: usukan on May 15, 2016, 02:09:12 AM

Block solvers do not get an extra reward.

Kind of off topic, but I think it would be interesting if a pool did provide a small reward to the actual person that find the block. Nothing big, just something to make it interesting and even more of an intensive to have a high overall hash rate to be the finder. Possibly a slightly larger portion of the 25 btc than they would have received.. or half the transaction fee amount gained. The pool would need to of course be transparent as to who the user name or some ID of the finder and the extra reward they received. Surprised no pool as implemented something like this yet.

I think this is a great idea, if nothing else it is really the only way to effectively stop (or severely discourage) a block withholding attack.

Say the person who finds the block gets 50% of the block, everyone else splits the other 50%. Well, if you perform a block withholding attack, you would hurt the pool, but you would hurt yourself as well as you would get rewarded for 50% of your shares and no reward for blocks (as you withhold them). This hurts the pool, but hurts the withholder a great deal as well. Under the current system, any block withholder gets 100% for their shares (more or less, depending on luck) and has no contribution to the pool. Perfect for a block withholder to come in and mess things up.

I'm not saying change the whole pool, but maybe a new pool with a 50/50 option would be nice. A sort of half pooled mining/half solo mining. It might be the best of all worlds - the steady income from the pooled mining with the security of solo mining (people would be crazy to block withhold and solo mine).

Personally, I think this is the best way to deal with the biggest threat to the pool. Anything that makes the pool more secure and helps to guarantee luck is a good thing in my book.

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