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legendary
Activity: 924
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Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.
well 1000 watts @ 120 volts is 9 amps,also Bitmain specs for the S7 any batch is for an ambient temp of 25 degrees C. that is a hard target to meet anywhere south of the mason-nixon line
Edit: that's 77 Fahrenheit

I'm on the far west end of Kau'ai Island in Hawai'i...21 N. I've had to make some adjustments on air circulation in the room, but I'm not using AC and don't anticipate having to. It's been up to 89F here w/the one S7 I have, but it maintains no more than 67C on any of the three boards. My complaint/displeasure is the noise level. The B9 S7 I run is incredibly noisy. Also...we have to manage a relatively unstable power grid here. A 20A circuit here is only good for about 2KW, because the line power hovers more toward 100v than where it's supposed to be. Two A6s would blow the breaker on surge.

Homes are built quite differently here than on the mainland. Any outside wall will generally be plastered with louver windows, or sliding glass doors w/screens, to catch the prevailing tradewinds. I "encourage" that circulation somewhat, but not with AC. I've been able to manage quite well, but it's a unique circumstance here.

EDIT: I use TrippLite 1800w line conditioners on each circuit, and they're constantly in the yellow or red. The gear is getting the right current, but the breaker is not caring. I have tried running a nominal 1800w (five S3s at 355w ea, 1775) and it will not hold for more than 20 sec. Yes, I could monkey with the breakers, but mgt would not like that methinks.  Cool
what i was trying to state is that the S7s specs are an ambient temp. of 75 degrees F. haigh temps will affect efficiency
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
Ha, instant karma gonna get A hole pool, we get double block action after the orphan fiasco...!  Wink
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
Antpoo...love it, Kano, absofrakkinglutely love it. I do hold to the same philosophical base as y'all. Once I'm up to full production here, and my silent is paid back (I figure before the halving), I'll be in a position to move to Avalon gear and keep my hash rate. The silent is also a major factor in buying the S7s. It'll all work out.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Well, it seems I do sleep sometimes after all ...

The orphan was about 2 hours after I went to sleep.

I've now switched the status on the orphan block and payout to orphan just as we found block 750.

Unfortunately, what woke me up was the DE node alarms.
Anyone mining on the DE node will have almost certainly failed over at 22:40 UTC
There was a network outage somewhere between the main pool node and the DE node.
It was less than a minute, so everyone who failed over will have reconnected back on the next attempt (and the hash rate was back up to normal within a few minutes)

--

Now, for the orphan, seems I don't have to spend much time working out what happened, as others have already worked out why.
Yep, it was an orphan race between us and antpoo but they won coz they confirmed their own block.

Our block: 406197 0000000000000000033f1b617ad5c03cec10a6bcc19ce0778e8d75fdbf1ed152
Antpoo block: 406197 00000000000000000063d719dfcfa4848290d9df2389e3fa32e7aa1091c4b5ab
Confirming (antpoo) block: 406198 000000000000000000e417137e5e25248a3078be40e1bf859e0f3b1cc649c926

UTC times:
18:24:39.845 share arrived
18:24:40.109 share accepted and fully processed
18:24:40.233 block received on the US network relay

18:24:43.204 antpoo block first appeared on the US relay network

... 3 seconds ...

We send our blocks out from many locations using bitcoinds and the relay network ... and our nodes relay faster than the relay network.
So at this point, we could only guess what went wrong at antpoo.

More relay stats:
18:24:40.383 our block appeared on the JPY relay node
18:24:42.394 antpoo block appeared on the JPY relay node

... ~2 seconds there ...

18:24:40.256 our block sent on the EU relay node
18:24:40.287 our block received back from the EU relay node
18:24:44.088 antpoo block appeared on the EU relay node

... 3.8 seconds there ...

--

Well, 2 blocks since then and we've exceeded 750 accepted blocks on the bitcoin network - YAY Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1500
Merit: 1002
Mine Mine Mine
don't let the music STOP . . . here it comes, make it 10 ?
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.
well 1000 watts @ 120 volts is 9 amps,also Bitmain specs for the S7 any batch is for an ambient temp of 25 degrees C. that is a hard target to meet anywhere south of the mason-nixon line
Edit: that's 77 Fahrenheit

I'm on the far west end of Kau'ai Island in Hawai'i...21 N. I've had to make some adjustments on air circulation in the room, but I'm not using AC and don't anticipate having to. It's been up to 89F here w/the one S7 I have, but it maintains no more than 67C on any of the three boards. My complaint/displeasure is the noise level. The B9 S7 I run is incredibly noisy. Also...we have to manage a relatively unstable power grid here. A 20A circuit here is only good for about 2KW, because the line power hovers more toward 100v than where it's supposed to be. Two A6s would blow the breaker on surge.

Homes are built quite differently here than on the mainland. Any outside wall will generally be plastered with louver windows, or sliding glass doors w/screens, to catch the prevailing tradewinds. I "encourage" that circulation somewhat, but not with AC. I've been able to manage quite well, but it's a unique circumstance here.

EDIT: I use TrippLite 1800w line conditioners on each circuit, and they're constantly in the yellow or red. The gear is getting the right current, but the breaker is not caring. I have tried running a nominal 1800w (five S3s at 355w ea, 1775) and it will not hold for more than 20 sec. Yes, I could monkey with the breakers, but mgt would not like that methinks.  Cool
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6
What kind of excuse is that?  I don't even understand the attempted reasoning, other than to fool one's self that they made "the only decision they could".

Why is it easier to click "add to cart" on one page vs. the other? e.g.

http://holybitcoin.com/product/avalon-6-3500-ghs-sha256-bitcoin-miner/ vs http://holybitcoin.com/product/bitmain-antminer-s7/

I don't see how one is easier.

Again I feel the EXACT same way as you, and I bought the first A6 from HolyScott after the failed group buy.

The fact of the matter is Bitmain has hundreds of S7s for sale and HolyScott had 5 A6's.

That being said, I have several coupons for S7s and will absolutely not buy them because Bitmain is bad for Bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 615
Merit: 500
randybtc had the last orphan here as well?  Huh

That seems like quite a coincidence....  Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 408
Merit: 259
block... by w9887113421 with 4.4 TH/s

well done!
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.
well 1000 watts @ 120 volts is 9 amps,also Bitmain specs for the S7 any batch is for an ambient temp of 25 degrees C. that is a hard target to meet anywhere south of the mason-nixon line
Edit: that's 77 Fahrenheit
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
preorders,does anyone remember 500%BFL
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
Well, I do understand the feeling about Bitmain. I'm a small miner...when I'm maxed out on power, I'll be running a little over 16Th. I just ordered 2 S7s from Bitmain, Batch 16 (one fan). I would have preferred to go with Avalon, but logistically it didn't make sense in my specific situation. They cost twice as much (as what I had to pay Bitmain with a coupon), and produce a full Th less than the S7; yes, it's on 1050 watts v. 1300w, but even 1050w basically takes a full 20A 120v circuit, unless you piggyback two S3s to get another .9Th. So...,you've got 4.6Th from the circuit. With an S7, you can run one S3 with it, and get around 5.1Th. Those were the factors I had to look at, since I've got just four 20A circuits to work with. When Avalon is able to put out a unit that is just a bit heftier, and it made economic sense (or an S7 bites the dust), I'll move over.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 253
Looks like some news on 14nm miners today. Looks like June for BW. Also explains the difficulty increases we've seen, due to large customer orders already mining.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bw-14nm-miners-update-1429033
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Dark Passenger Bitcoin miner 2013,Bitcoin node
well block 406197 has 21 confirmations IMO it belongs to kano.is
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
A Hole pool karma
Getting worse and worse each day
Must lose face faster
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.
Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.

Totally agree and I just purchased an A6, but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6. I also bought an A6 at a significant premium versus the S7 (with current coupon push).

I am all about voting with your wallet, but I made a decision that I would sacrifice ROI for principle and that isn't an option for large mining operations.

S7 is dogshit when it comes to reliability, and it consumes more power than they advertise.  Bitmain is complete shit, take it from someone who owns hundreds and hundreds of their machines.  Do yourself a favor and buy Avalon's.  Superior in every way. 
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6
What kind of excuse is that?  I don't even understand the attempted reasoning, other than to fool one's self that they made "the only decision they could".

Why is it easier to click "add to cart" on one page vs. the other? e.g.

http://holybitcoin.com/product/avalon-6-3500-ghs-sha256-bitcoin-miner/ vs http://holybitcoin.com/product/bitmain-antminer-s7/

I don't see how one is easier.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.
Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.

Totally agree and I just purchased an A6, but it is way easier to get an S7 than an A6. I also bought an A6 at a significant premium versus the S7 (with current coupon push).

I am all about voting with your wallet, but I made a decision that I would sacrifice ROI for principle and that isn't an option for large mining operations.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
If you own a bitmain S5/S7 that you bough brand new from bitmain and you are mining with it then you have absolutely ZERO place to complain about antpool and their empty blocks - you are part of the problem

What we need is a solid company to manufacture and put out a super efficient miner lineup and give Bitmain a run for their money.  Competition is what will put them in their place.
Well that's easy, it exists already and is called Caanan Creative and they have a miner called the Avalon 6 that is just as efficient as the S7, is quieter and cooler, and costs basically the same.

Don't blame the manufacturers, blame the people that support them.  Competition exists, people vote with their wallets.  Sadly most people make decisions solely based on their wallets as well.

If you are looking for a quality miner that is faster and cheaper than the S7 who would you expect to be able to undercut a massive Chinese company already producing a cheap product (cheap in cost and fit/feel)?  That's about as low operating costs as you can come.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Its sad but people see 30+ blocks a day and go there thinking size matters.
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