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hero member
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Yeah...me too. I hate mining to my backup pool. It just seems like such a waste.

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legendary
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pool just went dead and kano.is is down. Everything all right?
Nope, a ddos happening ...

will it be fixed soon ?

I got some shares in for a second there but looks like I failed over to backup again.
legendary
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Took out three of my miners on the flip

One of mine completely flaked out.  Failed over to backup pool ok but then when it tried to fail back to kano even the web interface got all horked. S-7 batch 8.  I had to power cycle it.
legendary
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pool just went dead and kano.is is down. Everything all right?
Nope, a ddos happening ...

will it be fixed soon ?
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
No problem.  Glad to help.
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share..
Not sure what you are using to draw this conclusion, but a share is a share it a share - they all take the same "time to submit".  Submitting shares isn't what solves a block, it's how many SHA256 hashes per second that can be calculated.  There are no "secret settings" that increase your chances at solving a block.

Thats what i was getting at.. Just wondered if we had double the work if it gave us an advantage in anyway.... I always see the saying that every share has equal opportunity to solve a block.. So i just figured if your able to double the amount of shares you submit.. Albeit half the stratum diff would be required but each share has that chance to solve.. Im prolly way off here. Thanks for the help on this aswell

Best Regards
d57heinz
There is no advantage.  Your miners are hashing at X million/billion/trillion hashes per second.  Each one of those could potentially solve a block.  The vast majority of those hashes are thrown out because they are worthless (i.e. they don't even meet the difficulty 1 target).  When your miner actually does hit a diff 1 share, it is then the mining software that ignores it based upon the difficulty set by the pool.  If that share happens to exceed the target difficulty, then it is submitted to the pool.  If by chance that share also happens to exceed the target network difficulty, then the pool submits the block.

Ahh yes.. ok that is what i needed. That makes sense.. Thank you.. I should have known that or been able to come to that conclusion. Brain fart..   I just thought that maybe working on more jobs could help it more. but i see now that doesn't do a thing . i def get it now.. Thanks again

Best Regards
d57heinz
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share..
Not sure what you are using to draw this conclusion, but a share is a share it a share - they all take the same "time to submit".  Submitting shares isn't what solves a block, it's how many SHA256 hashes per second that can be calculated.  There are no "secret settings" that increase your chances at solving a block.

Thats what i was getting at.. Just wondered if we had double the work if it gave us an advantage in anyway.... I always see the saying that every share has equal opportunity to solve a block.. So i just figured if your able to double the amount of shares you submit.. Albeit half the stratum diff would be required but each share has that chance to solve.. Im prolly way off here. Thanks for the help on this aswell

Best Regards
d57heinz
There is no advantage.  Your miners are hashing at X million/billion/trillion hashes per second.  Each one of those could potentially solve a block.  The vast majority of those hashes are thrown out because they are worthless (i.e. they don't even meet the difficulty 1 target).  When your miner actually does hit a diff 1 share, it is then the mining software that ignores it based upon the difficulty set by the pool.  If that share happens to exceed the target difficulty, then it is submitted to the pool.  If by chance that share also happens to exceed the target network difficulty, then the pool submits the block.
hero member
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Took out three of my miners on the flip
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share..
Not sure what you are using to draw this conclusion, but a share is a share it a share - they all take the same "time to submit".  Submitting shares isn't what solves a block, it's how many SHA256 hashes per second that can be calculated.  There are no "secret settings" that increase your chances at solving a block.

Thats what i was getting at.. Just wondered if we had double the work if it gave us an advantage in anyway.... I always see the saying that every share has equal opportunity to solve a block.. So i just figured if your able to double the amount of shares you submit.. Albeit half the stratum diff would be required but each share has that chance to solve.. Im prolly way off here. Thanks for the help on this aswell

Best Regards
d57heinz
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
what if the data center is thinking its a ddos when we have block change because the server rejects so many invalid shares(old work).. as its needing to get the new work for the next block.. Could be long enough to trigger such a thing? idk

Thanks for explaining that Johnny appreciate your time Smiley

Best Regards
d57heinz
legendary
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but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share..
Not sure what you are using to draw this conclusion, but a share is a share it a share - they all take the same "time to submit".  Submitting shares isn't what solves a block, it's how many SHA256 hashes per second that can be calculated.  There are no "secret settings" that increase your chances at solving a block.
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
Yep, all worked flipped to my backup pool, website unresponsive. Just after the block, thats happen a couple times now after a block.....
Like a ddos is triggered when we find a block so we don't get a quick double.
Conspiracy anyone Smiley ?
Conspiracy... Jealousy... Stupidity...  Lots of other words that end in 'y'...
hero member
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pool just went dead and kano.is is down. Everything all right?
Nope, a ddos happening ...

Can you take the last 24 or 48 hours of miners IP address and get the DC to whitelist those IP's on the edge network? That might be a quick way to keep "most" connected and mining while DC reacts to the attack.

Maybe also for the registered users, display their source IP's on the site and allow users to select and add to "trusted" list that is then used to filter on the edge when an attack occurs.

Just some thoughts
sr. member
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Darn DDoS.

All of my miners failed over.  At least we hit a block first!
hero member
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Yep, all worked flipped to my backup pool, website unresponsive. Just after the block, thats happen a couple times now after a block.....
Like a ddos is triggered when we find a block so we don't get a quick double.
Conspiracy anyone Smiley ?

I'll buy that for a dollar, makes sense since when you find a block you are the first to start on the next block so you have an advantage for 200-300ms over other pools. Would also be easy to setup a DDOS based on block find and every pool and data center needs a few minutes to react to a attack.

As the myth busters would say, "plausible"
Has happened more than once.
legendary
Activity: 1344
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
Happy Days!! Cheesy

Thanks Hurricanedave.. Seems you have some lucky machines:)  Much appreciated!!

Best Regards
d57heinz

I want to know what rigs he is using?  What diff he has set manually on particular rigs, if any? etc.  All of us could share these type of things with one another to possibly increase our odds of maybe finding more blocks as a pool.

Im not sure if there is anything to this and im sure kano will shed some light on this. But here is what i was thinking.. if you have a pool server that is capable of handling a vast amount of shares per second.> Wouldnt it be advantageous to send the miners more shares per second with each one of them having an equal chance of finding a block.. So i guess what im trying to say is if you send s4 diff 2000 shares and it can send one share a second.. vs sending your rig 1k diff shares at 2 per second.. Wouldnt that give the machine a twice as much chance at finding a block.. Im prolly way off on my thinking here.  what you all think?

Best Regards
d57heinz
No, it doesn't work like that.  The machine doesn't have any better or worse chance of finding a block by submitting a diff 1 share or a diff 1,000,000,000 share.  The diff setting is there simply for the pool to reduce the amount of traffic it receives and the amount of data it must store.

Ahh ok.. Thanks for straightening me out.. Appreciate that.

Edit.. but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share.. Correct.. its a time issue then .. You want to submit as many chances as possible. not sure im cleared up just yet lol

Best Regards
d57heinz
Yes, statistically submitting a share with a 1G difficulty would take longer than submitting a share with a 1 difficulty.  That's why pools try to target a given shares per second rate.  Kano's pool targets 18 shares per minute, so it'll adjust your share difficulty accordingly to get as close to that target as possible.
legendary
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Looks like both kano and solo are having difficulty. DDOS?
hero member
Activity: 575
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Yep, all worked flipped to my backup pool, website unresponsive. Just after the block, thats happen a couple times now after a block.....
Like a ddos is triggered when we find a block so we don't get a quick double.
Conspiracy anyone Smiley ?

I'll buy that for a dollar, makes sense since when you find a block you are the first to start on the next block so you have an advantage for 200-300ms over other pools. Would also be easy to setup a DDOS based on block find and every pool and data center needs a few minutes to react to a attack.

As the myth busters would say, "plausible"
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
pool just went dead and kano.is is down. Everything all right?
Nope, a ddos happening ...
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011
Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
Happy Days!! Cheesy

Thanks Hurricanedave.. Seems you have some lucky machines:)  Much appreciated!!

Best Regards
d57heinz

I want to know what rigs he is using?  What diff he has set manually on particular rigs, if any? etc.  All of us could share these type of things with one another to possibly increase our odds of maybe finding more blocks as a pool.

Im not sure if there is anything to this and im sure kano will shed some light on this. But here is what i was thinking.. if you have a pool server that is capable of handling a vast amount of shares per second.> Wouldnt it be advantageous to send the miners more shares per second with each one of them having an equal chance of finding a block.. So i guess what im trying to say is if you send s4 diff 2000 shares and it can send one share a second.. vs sending your rig 1k diff shares at 2 per second.. Wouldnt that give the machine a twice as much chance at finding a block.. Im prolly way off on my thinking here.  what you all think?

Best Regards
d57heinz
No, it doesn't work like that.  The machine doesn't have any better or worse chance of finding a block by submitting a diff 1 share or a diff 1,000,000,000 share.  The diff setting is there simply for the pool to reduce the amount of traffic it receives and the amount of data it must store.

Ahh ok.. Thanks for straightening me out.. Appreciate that.

Edit.. but the time the machine takes to submit that diff one share is much faster than the diff 1 billion share.. Correct.. its a time issue then .. You want to submit as many chances as possible. not sure im cleared up just yet lol
Edit  so i guess its a matter of trying to work on as many jobs as possible and also submitting shares/chances at a block with that new work.. 
Best Regards
d57heinz
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