* kano biffs Biffa 
(with some BTC) 
Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 440. (Read 5352229 times)
February 23, 2018, 12:17:05 AM
February 23, 2018, 12:15:52 AM
Congrats folks! Can't wait to be done ramping, so I can enjoy some dancing too!
February 22, 2018, 11:55:31 PM
I feel a couple quick blocks before ed of month!
February 22, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Woohoo! Another block comin right up!
February 22, 2018, 11:35:27 PM
lets hope we follow the last pattern & crack another one in the next 5 hours! ....
that would be nice
February 22, 2018, 11:33:09 PM
lets hope we follow the last pattern & crack another one in the next 5 hours! ....
February 22, 2018, 11:32:56 PM
Am I the only one that got no notification from both the ckpool status app AND minergain? I'm glad we got a block, and I'm all for surprises but holy shit I need at least one of the two to go off 
yes you are lol
mine on!!!
February 22, 2018, 11:28:51 PM
just powering my 2th's online for a bit till end of shift
February 22, 2018, 11:27:57 PM
Am I the only one that got no notification from both the ckpool status app AND minergain? I'm glad we got a block, and I'm all for surprises but holy shit I need at least one of the two to go off
February 22, 2018, 11:16:50 PM
Block by Biffa! 
Way to go with your 11th Kano block! 
This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
Way to go with your 11th Kano block! This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
Awesome!!!
FWIW, I put one of sidehack's new pod miners in my mix a couple of hours ago. Maybe we need more? It's not but ~85 GH (untuned), but we found the block after it was online....
Whatever you're using ... MINE ON!!!!
p.s.: let's just go ahead and start Block Friday NOW!!!
February 22, 2018, 11:16:05 PM
FINALLY.
February 22, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
YEAH!! BLOCK!! Mine On WIth KANO-SAN!! BTC
February 22, 2018, 11:12:10 PM
Block by Biffa! Way to go with your 11th Kano block!
This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
Way to go with your 11th Kano block! This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
KABOOOOOOM!
February 22, 2018, 11:07:04 PM
BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!
February 22, 2018, 11:06:41 PM
Yay well done guys
February 22, 2018, 11:06:12 PM
Block by Biffa! Way to go with your 11th Kano block!
This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
Way to go with your 11th Kano block! This is our 1st of BLOCK FRIDAY!
February 22, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
mmotes posted in that thread about me deleteing posts.
Below is his post in that thread.
Then a mod deleted the thread
So below his quote is the reply I was typing when the mod deleted the thread.
The rest are sent automatically one minute after they mature.
I manually process the payout before that - but I have about 12-16 hours to do that of course - then queue it to be sent when it matures.
If transaction fees are high, then some sites ignore transactions with low fees.
They don't actually need to know about unconfirmed transactions at all, unless they accept payments with zero confirms.
Only miners/pools need to know about unconfirmed transactions, since they are the ones who confirm them.
Once a transaction is confirmed in a block, everyone in bitcoin needs to know about it and finds out about it when the block is distributed around the net.
The pool payouts are always low fee (or zero fee) transactions.
Relying on a site like blockchain.info, that doesn't adhere to the bitcoin rules, is not advisable.
Below is his post in that thread.
Then a mod deleted the thread
So below his quote is the reply I was typing when the mod deleted the thread.
Guys this thread is hilarious. At the risk of only adding to the babel, I would like to inject some support for the OP, because I really believe there could be one crucial misunderstanding.
>OP thinks 1 minute after the found block reaches "matured" his BTC address should show an UNCONFIRMED transaction of his reward, if the payment were truly automatically sent.
He would like to know how can this be, are you saying a BTC transaction can be submitted to the mempool but it takes blockchain.info or blocktrail.com hours to register it as an UNCONFIRMED transaction?
Because this has happened to me on Kanopool, the payment did not appear to be automatic 1 minute after maturity, but 24 hours after maturity seems to be the average with a variance of about 1 hour or so, IIRC at least int he last few blocks.
There was one payout that was delayed that I posted about it before it was even delayed, due to the pool wallet server being down.>OP thinks 1 minute after the found block reaches "matured" his BTC address should show an UNCONFIRMED transaction of his reward, if the payment were truly automatically sent.
He would like to know how can this be, are you saying a BTC transaction can be submitted to the mempool but it takes blockchain.info or blocktrail.com hours to register it as an UNCONFIRMED transaction?
Because this has happened to me on Kanopool, the payment did not appear to be automatic 1 minute after maturity, but 24 hours after maturity seems to be the average with a variance of about 1 hour or so, IIRC at least int he last few blocks.
The rest are sent automatically one minute after they mature.
I manually process the payout before that - but I have about 12-16 hours to do that of course - then queue it to be sent when it matures.
If transaction fees are high, then some sites ignore transactions with low fees.
They don't actually need to know about unconfirmed transactions at all, unless they accept payments with zero confirms.
Only miners/pools need to know about unconfirmed transactions, since they are the ones who confirm them.
Once a transaction is confirmed in a block, everyone in bitcoin needs to know about it and finds out about it when the block is distributed around the net.
The pool payouts are always low fee (or zero fee) transactions.
Relying on a site like blockchain.info, that doesn't adhere to the bitcoin rules, is not advisable.
So you're saying he's not the brightest bulb on the tree?
MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
February 22, 2018, 10:39:46 PM
mmotes posted in that thread about me deleteing posts.
Below is his post in that thread.
Then a mod deleted the thread
So below his quote is the reply I was typing when the mod deleted the thread.
The rest are sent automatically one minute after they mature.
I manually process the payout before that - but I have about 12-16 hours to do that of course - then queue it to be sent when it matures.
If transaction fees are high, then some sites ignore transactions with low fees.
They don't actually need to know about unconfirmed transactions at all, unless they accept payments with zero confirms.
Only miners/pools need to know about unconfirmed transactions, since they are the ones who confirm them.
Once a transaction is confirmed in a block, everyone in bitcoin needs to know about it and finds out about it when the block is distributed around the net.
The pool payouts are always low fee (or zero fee) transactions.
Relying on a site like blockchain.info, that doesn't adhere to the bitcoin rules, is not advisable.
Below is his post in that thread.
Then a mod deleted the thread
So below his quote is the reply I was typing when the mod deleted the thread.
Guys this thread is hilarious. At the risk of only adding to the babel, I would like to inject some support for the OP, because I really believe there could be one crucial misunderstanding.
>OP thinks 1 minute after the found block reaches "matured" his BTC address should show an UNCONFIRMED transaction of his reward, if the payment were truly automatically sent.
He would like to know how can this be, are you saying a BTC transaction can be submitted to the mempool but it takes blockchain.info or blocktrail.com hours to register it as an UNCONFIRMED transaction?
Because this has happened to me on Kanopool, the payment did not appear to be automatic 1 minute after maturity, but 24 hours after maturity seems to be the average with a variance of about 1 hour or so, IIRC at least int he last few blocks.
There was one payout that was delayed that I posted about it before it was even delayed, due to the pool wallet server being down.>OP thinks 1 minute after the found block reaches "matured" his BTC address should show an UNCONFIRMED transaction of his reward, if the payment were truly automatically sent.
He would like to know how can this be, are you saying a BTC transaction can be submitted to the mempool but it takes blockchain.info or blocktrail.com hours to register it as an UNCONFIRMED transaction?
Because this has happened to me on Kanopool, the payment did not appear to be automatic 1 minute after maturity, but 24 hours after maturity seems to be the average with a variance of about 1 hour or so, IIRC at least int he last few blocks.
The rest are sent automatically one minute after they mature.
I manually process the payout before that - but I have about 12-16 hours to do that of course - then queue it to be sent when it matures.
If transaction fees are high, then some sites ignore transactions with low fees.
They don't actually need to know about unconfirmed transactions at all, unless they accept payments with zero confirms.
Only miners/pools need to know about unconfirmed transactions, since they are the ones who confirm them.
Once a transaction is confirmed in a block, everyone in bitcoin needs to know about it and finds out about it when the block is distributed around the net.
The pool payouts are always low fee (or zero fee) transactions.
Relying on a site like blockchain.info, that doesn't adhere to the bitcoin rules, is not advisable.
February 22, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
Agreed, this maths "wizard" is talking total rubbish. I made a pittance here and since heading over to Slush have made loads more. Currently I make 0.001125BTC per day with one S9. I'm not going to bore anyone with math (because to be frank, who gives a darn about it, we are here to make coin not learn algebra), I'll just post a good old fashioned screenshot of earnings on Kano with one S9.
https://ibb.co/ckaXQx
Yes, we are having a shocking month but still, with difficulty ramping up all the time, every day is precious to new miners starting out who can't afford runs of 200-600% blocks.
When you say you started the 18th of january were ramped up by then or is that when you started ramping up?
I started ramping up the same day with 56 TH and since then ive been payed 0.04798770 BTC.
https://ibb.co/c16Thc
Ive done the math and If i was fully ramped up for all four of those blocks i would have made 0.0739933168550874 BTC with 56 TH. Your math doesnt add up at all buddy.
If you say those are actual numbers then post a picture to prove it. Also if they were actual numbers I would be pissed because someone with 35 TH made more than me with 56 TH.
If you think you would of mined more at kano for that time period you are delusioinal.
https://ibb.co/ckaXQx
Yes, we are having a shocking month but still, with difficulty ramping up all the time, every day is precious to new miners starting out who can't afford runs of 200-600% blocks.
I keep seeing all this about pool x, pool y, pool z vs here or maybe I should just say PPS vs here.
So after 35 days I figured it was time for a few real numbers.
I started here on the 18 (night) of January, with what was 15Th as the time, but that quickly doubled to 30 a day or 2 later and has been pretty flat since (just added 22 more, but I'll ignore that at the moment)
The other day when I brought up my 821's, I put them on slush for 2 hrs, just because I wanted to see what the daily CDT was there at my full hashrate. Then I moved them back to here.
So here is the basis to my numbers.
30Th/s for 35 days
Actual numbers from Kano based upon the above.
Let's start with my Kano experience.
I received .0976473 BTC in 35 days
this equals .0027899 per day
or .0000930 CDT
for the same amount of hash at slush, we'll work backwards
.00008703 CDT
.0026109 per day
or .0913815 BTC
You can say what you want and this is just a snapshot of 35 days, but even with the really ugly luck we've had, I've still made more here than the equivalent time at slush (who btw is averaging slightly *better* than 100% luck).
The upside that isn't in the above, if we find a block today, my numbers would go up again to a much larger amount of BTC than slush (e.g. .0045 (would be .007, but I'll factor out the .0027899 CDT) BTC to .002), if we improve on luck, we shatter the slush numbers. If I left today and went somewhere else, I'd still be paid for 5Nd ramp down along with where-ever else I go's take.
I just can't see any downside. Ok, except the fact that you don't have a little graphical ticker that is counting up based upon predicted BTC.... Oh but wait, it simply matches the number above, so what real benefit is it?
EDIT1: with 30Th/s this should work for anyone curious with a 14-15Th/s S9 or anything else because I took all the numbers down to CDT (Coin per Day per TeraHash/s)
So after 35 days I figured it was time for a few real numbers.
I started here on the 18 (night) of January, with what was 15Th as the time, but that quickly doubled to 30 a day or 2 later and has been pretty flat since (just added 22 more, but I'll ignore that at the moment)
The other day when I brought up my 821's, I put them on slush for 2 hrs, just because I wanted to see what the daily CDT was there at my full hashrate. Then I moved them back to here.
So here is the basis to my numbers.
30Th/s for 35 days
Actual numbers from Kano based upon the above.
Let's start with my Kano experience.
I received .0976473 BTC in 35 days
this equals .0027899 per day
or .0000930 CDT
for the same amount of hash at slush, we'll work backwards
.00008703 CDT
.0026109 per day
or .0913815 BTC
You can say what you want and this is just a snapshot of 35 days, but even with the really ugly luck we've had, I've still made more here than the equivalent time at slush (who btw is averaging slightly *better* than 100% luck).
The upside that isn't in the above, if we find a block today, my numbers would go up again to a much larger amount of BTC than slush (e.g. .0045 (would be .007, but I'll factor out the .0027899 CDT) BTC to .002), if we improve on luck, we shatter the slush numbers. If I left today and went somewhere else, I'd still be paid for 5Nd ramp down along with where-ever else I go's take.
I just can't see any downside. Ok, except the fact that you don't have a little graphical ticker that is counting up based upon predicted BTC.... Oh but wait, it simply matches the number above, so what real benefit is it?
EDIT1: with 30Th/s this should work for anyone curious with a 14-15Th/s S9 or anything else because I took all the numbers down to CDT (Coin per Day per TeraHash/s)
When you say you started the 18th of january were ramped up by then or is that when you started ramping up?
I started ramping up the same day with 56 TH and since then ive been payed 0.04798770 BTC.
https://ibb.co/c16Thc
Ive done the math and If i was fully ramped up for all four of those blocks i would have made 0.0739933168550874 BTC with 56 TH. Your math doesnt add up at all buddy.
If you say those are actual numbers then post a picture to prove it. Also if they were actual numbers I would be pissed because someone with 35 TH made more than me with 56 TH.
If you think you would of mined more at kano for that time period you are delusioinal.
FUNNY, I wanted to call bullshit on these numbers too, because I had an average of 60 TH ( was from 68, 80, 53, 52 TH for the last 4 blocks) and All I made was .07935601 So if you were to take my whatever average you want to use, say 60 ( worked out to 63.25) and all I got was the .07935601 30 TH should be about half of that is what I would think.
Re calculate, your fat fingers pressed the wrong button.
I think what you did was you calculated your per TH rate, multiplied it by your TH that you had and assumed that thats what you would of had if fully ramped up. BUT the pool rate went up significatly at the end of Jan and early Feb ( I cant recall exactly what timeframe) so your percentage of total shares would have gone dow, but you had no real way of calculating that due ot the lack of blocks found.
i started ramping on the 18/19th (54TH), and my total payout was 0.04280870 BTC
i have a screenshot, but can't post because im still a newbie .. lol
February 22, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
Agreed, this maths "wizard" is talking total rubbish. I made a pittance here and since heading over to Slush have made loads more. Currently I make 0.001125BTC per day with one S9. I'm not going to bore anyone with math (because to be frank, who gives a darn about it, we are here to make coin not learn algebra), I'll just post a good old fashioned screenshot of earnings on Kano with one S9.
https://ibb.co/ckaXQx
Yes, we are having a shocking month but still, with difficulty ramping up all the time, every day is precious to new miners starting out who can't afford runs of 200-600% blocks.
When you say you started the 18th of january were ramped up by then or is that when you started ramping up?
I started ramping up the same day with 56 TH and since then ive been payed 0.04798770 BTC.
Ive done the math and If i was fully ramped up for all four of those blocks i would have made 0.0739933168550874 BTC with 56 TH. Your math doesnt add up at all buddy.
If you say those are actual numbers then post a picture to prove it. Also if they were actual numbers I would be pissed because someone with 35 TH made more than me with 56 TH.
If you think you would of mined more at kano for that time period you are delusioinal.
https://ibb.co/ckaXQx
Yes, we are having a shocking month but still, with difficulty ramping up all the time, every day is precious to new miners starting out who can't afford runs of 200-600% blocks.
I keep seeing all this about pool x, pool y, pool z vs here or maybe I should just say PPS vs here.
So after 35 days I figured it was time for a few real numbers.
I started here on the 18 (night) of January, with what was 15Th as the time, but that quickly doubled to 30 a day or 2 later and has been pretty flat since (just added 22 more, but I'll ignore that at the moment)
The other day when I brought up my 821's, I put them on slush for 2 hrs, just because I wanted to see what the daily CDT was there at my full hashrate. Then I moved them back to here.
So here is the basis to my numbers.
30Th/s for 35 days
Actual numbers from Kano based upon the above.
Let's start with my Kano experience.
I received .0976473 BTC in 35 days
this equals .0027899 per day
or .0000930 CDT
for the same amount of hash at slush, we'll work backwards
.00008703 CDT
.0026109 per day
or .0913815 BTC
You can say what you want and this is just a snapshot of 35 days, but even with the really ugly luck we've had, I've still made more here than the equivalent time at slush (who btw is averaging slightly *better* than 100% luck).
The upside that isn't in the above, if we find a block today, my numbers would go up again to a much larger amount of BTC than slush (e.g. .0045 (would be .007, but I'll factor out the .0027899 CDT) BTC to .002), if we improve on luck, we shatter the slush numbers. If I left today and went somewhere else, I'd still be paid for 5Nd ramp down along with where-ever else I go's take.
I just can't see any downside. Ok, except the fact that you don't have a little graphical ticker that is counting up based upon predicted BTC.... Oh but wait, it simply matches the number above, so what real benefit is it?
EDIT1: with 30Th/s this should work for anyone curious with a 14-15Th/s S9 or anything else because I took all the numbers down to CDT (Coin per Day per TeraHash/s)
So after 35 days I figured it was time for a few real numbers.
I started here on the 18 (night) of January, with what was 15Th as the time, but that quickly doubled to 30 a day or 2 later and has been pretty flat since (just added 22 more, but I'll ignore that at the moment)
The other day when I brought up my 821's, I put them on slush for 2 hrs, just because I wanted to see what the daily CDT was there at my full hashrate. Then I moved them back to here.
So here is the basis to my numbers.
30Th/s for 35 days
Actual numbers from Kano based upon the above.
Let's start with my Kano experience.
I received .0976473 BTC in 35 days
this equals .0027899 per day
or .0000930 CDT
for the same amount of hash at slush, we'll work backwards
.00008703 CDT
.0026109 per day
or .0913815 BTC
You can say what you want and this is just a snapshot of 35 days, but even with the really ugly luck we've had, I've still made more here than the equivalent time at slush (who btw is averaging slightly *better* than 100% luck).
The upside that isn't in the above, if we find a block today, my numbers would go up again to a much larger amount of BTC than slush (e.g. .0045 (would be .007, but I'll factor out the .0027899 CDT) BTC to .002), if we improve on luck, we shatter the slush numbers. If I left today and went somewhere else, I'd still be paid for 5Nd ramp down along with where-ever else I go's take.
I just can't see any downside. Ok, except the fact that you don't have a little graphical ticker that is counting up based upon predicted BTC.... Oh but wait, it simply matches the number above, so what real benefit is it?
EDIT1: with 30Th/s this should work for anyone curious with a 14-15Th/s S9 or anything else because I took all the numbers down to CDT (Coin per Day per TeraHash/s)
When you say you started the 18th of january were ramped up by then or is that when you started ramping up?
I started ramping up the same day with 56 TH and since then ive been payed 0.04798770 BTC.
Ive done the math and If i was fully ramped up for all four of those blocks i would have made 0.0739933168550874 BTC with 56 TH. Your math doesnt add up at all buddy.
If you say those are actual numbers then post a picture to prove it. Also if they were actual numbers I would be pissed because someone with 35 TH made more than me with 56 TH.
If you think you would of mined more at kano for that time period you are delusioinal.
FUNNY, I wanted to call bullshit on these numbers too, because I had an average of 60 TH ( was from 68, 80, 53, 52 TH for the last 4 blocks) and All I made was .07935601 So if you were to take my whatever average you want to use, say 60 ( worked out to 63.25) and all I got was the .07935601 30 TH should be about half of that is what I would think.
Re calculate, your fat fingers pressed the wrong button.
I think what you did was you calculated your per TH rate, multiplied it by your TH that you had and assumed that thats what you would of had if fully ramped up. BUT the pool rate went up significatly at the end of Jan and early Feb ( I cant recall exactly what timeframe) so your percentage of total shares would have gone dow, but you had no real way of calculating that due ot the lack of blocks found.
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