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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 492. (Read 5352367 times)

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4 s9's 2 821's
Hopefully block soon, in the meantime quick newbie question, apologies if I appear dumb or been asked before.
So we are mining to find a new block?
Where does Bitcoin transactions and the fees associated with that fall in with mining for a block or is that something completely separate?

It's whatever we find in that block.  We don't have any transactions of our own to payout so you just take what's in the block and MOVE ON!

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
newbie
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Seems's Spacex Core didn't make it back???

... like our Block...?  Sad
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Guess I was wrong about hitting a block yesterday. Life would be so much easier if you could see the future!

Let's hope the random number generators are in our favor soon.

You were wrong, but the cruelest part of it is with the DB reset, I had a notification this morning that we had found a block...

Speaking of notifications... I just realized today that my CKPool Status app isn't notifying me. I know it just updated, so I'm wondering if anyone else isn't getting refreshed #s and notifications.

You'll know for sure if you try to resave your settings. Mine is saying invalid API even though I haven't made any changes.

Sorry if kinda off topic.

iPhone or Android?  My iPhone CKPool app is working...I just had miner go down and it notified me right away.
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Been hanging in there... we ever gonna block?
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4 s9's 2 821's
If you're not getting the El Pollo Loco...DO IT NOW!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN! 
sr. member
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911 IT Admin. I keep 911 up so you get help ASAP!
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Guess I was wrong about hitting a block yesterday. Life would be so much easier if you could see the future!

Let's hope the random number generators are in our favor soon.

You were wrong, but the cruelest part of it is with the DB reset, I had a notification this morning that we had found a block...

Speaking of notifications... I just realized today that my CKPool Status app isn't notifying me. I know it just updated, so I'm wondering if anyone else isn't getting refreshed #s and notifications.

You'll know for sure if you try to resave your settings. Mine is saying invalid API even though I haven't made any changes.

Sorry if kinda off topic.
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Things are looking up.   The rocket took off, didn't blow up, and Elon's Roadster is in space...  Unfortunately we cant use all that fuel on that rocket top crack a block, its been spent...

I'd go to Mars...  I'll have THE best car there! :-)

jr. member
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Guess I was wrong about hitting a block yesterday. Life would be so much easier if you could see the future!

Let's hope the random number generators are in our favor soon.

You were wrong, but the cruelest part of it is with the DB reset, I had a notification this morning that we had found a block and for a split second I was like...holy shit...dude was right. He called it straight Ms. Cleo style, he should be charging $3.99 a minute for his advice!
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Guess I was wrong about hitting a block yesterday. Life would be so much easier if you could see the future!

Let's hope the random number generators are in our favor soon.
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.

All that matters is who gets it first and starts mining - by the time the next A3 batches get into the customers hands it will be like the D3

and people were pissed about the D3, but it did raise Dash price

I just hope Siacoin price goes up.....same as dash

Should probably ease up on the altcoin discussions as they veer way OT.
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So, I felt the urge to ramble on about Bitcoin again since this block is pissing me off probably as much as everyone else here Smiley

Rather than try to edit in and out of the various posts ... here's how mining works Smiley

Firstly, mining is exactly the same as rolling a dice ... except for the number of possible solutions!
When you roll a dice, you have a 1 in 6 chance of getting a 6.
There's no progress to getting a 6, ever. You either get a 6 or you don't.
One try = yes or no. No history involved.

With Bitcoin the dice actually has 2^256 sides - yeah that's a pretty big number ~1.579x10^77
And ... there's more than one solution that's valid.
Any "side of the dice" that has enough zeros on the front, and is less than a specified value, is a block.
Of that ~1.579x10^77 number, the current difficulty decides how many sides mean we found a block.

The current difficulty is actually "0x176c2146" which is called "bits" and is 4 bytes of the data we hash.
"0x17" = 23 decimal and 32-23 = 9 bytes of leading zeros (i.e. 9 times '00')
The rest is "0x6c2146"
So, what those 2 numbers mean is that any block hash with a hex value of
H=0x0000000000000000006c21460000000000000000000000000000000000000000 or less is a block

and if you divide 0xffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff+1 (~1.579x10^77) by H and divide it again by 0x100000000 (2^32) you will get that network difficulty number:
Nd = 2,603,077,300,218.593
which means that every 2^32 times you roll the Bitcoin dice (i.e. hash a full nonce range) you have a 1 in 2,603,077,300,218.593 chance of finding a block.

... and the reason we divide by 0x100000000 again is that the network difficulty number of 1 represents 2^32 hashes

So ... that's how hashing works, but what are we actually hashing?

I wrote a document about it once, I'll repeat a little bit here:

The structure of a block header is an 80 byte binary data set, defined as follows:
Version                   4 bytes
Previous Block Hash      32 bytes
Merkle Root              32 bytes
Block Time                4 byte Unix Timestamp
Required Hash Difficulty  4 bytes
Hash Nonce                4 bytes

So looking at that we can vary 3 things:
Merkle root, Block Time and Hash Nonce

Normal hashing is to setup everything except the Hash Nonce and then count the Hash Nonce from 0 to 2^32-1 and hash each one.
Hashing the full Nonce range from 0 to 2^32-1 is also called 1 difficulty.

With stratum we can modify the Merkle Root to generate a different block header to hash the Nonce range.
The Merkle Root is a hash tree of the transactions we include in the block, however there's one transaction that we can change with stratum, and that is the coinbase transaction - or the transaction that pays the miner.
In this transaction we only need to make sure that:
1) It's a valid transaction (which is actually pretty random for the coinbase transaction due to the "sig" being allowed to contain almost anything as long as it starts with 'height')
2) It pays out to the expected address we want to receive the generated Bitcoins
3) The amount it pays is correct

So for stratum we put a bunch of other 'nonces' in the coinbase sig, that includes a unique number for each miner, and run the others from 0 up to some specified limit to generate a different coinbase transaction each time, that will generate a unique Merkle Root, to be put in a block header, to be hashed over the full Nonce range.

Thus with the unique number for each miner, and the miner itself following the stratum rules for creating coinbase transactions, the miner can keep generating a large amount of work that isn't expected to run out before the pool sends it new work.

Lastly, every time the miner finds a hash value that is higher than the difficulty specified by the pool, the miner sends the nonce and the "sig" nonces back to the pool.
The pool hashes those nonces with the values it sent to the miner, and thus verifies it's valid, and thus rewards the miner with the difficulty of the work sent to  the miner.

Now one more thing I'll add, that got mention a little while back, is that the miner can't modify the payout address to 'steal' the block.
The reason is that the pool wont get a valid hash of the nonces sent back, so the miner will get no reward. Simple Smiley

Great write-up - thanks dude!.  Also, I really appreciate the work you put into the pool.   While I know .9% is nothing to sneeze at, I also know you earn it.

Thanks again!
newbie
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A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.

All that matters is who gets it first and starts mining - by the time the next A3 batches get into the customers hands it will be like the D3

and people were pissed about the D3, but it did raise Dash price

I just hope Siacoin price goes up.....same as dash
newbie
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I won't mess with anything other than BTC and or LTC.  Just bought 2 little LTC miners I'm gonna play with along with getting enough electric to get my E9+ to run with those and my S9 & 721 in my house, I'm def maxing out my breaker box lol have extension cords running through holes I bored out of the walls to get to different rooms to use other breakers.  But yes forget about all of this, it's rocket time!
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Let us kill this block allready.. Going on 400 hours... sheesh. Fun to run into this on my first mining session.. And the S9... Wow, friggin' jetplane it is!

Now let us all watch the Falcon Heavy Launch.

The good news is we're both ramped up by the time we crack this one.

Looking for a silver lining here, alright?
jr. member
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A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.

HA  Not me, I traded my A3 for 2 S9's!   Was an awesome deal.!



straight robbery! Good trade.
jr. member
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A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.

HA  Not me, I traded my A3 for 2 S9's!   Was an awesome deal.!

newbie
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Let us kill this block allready.. Going on 400 hours... sheesh. Fun to run into this on my first mining session.. And the S9... Wow, friggin' jetplane it is!

Now let us all watch the Falcon Heavy Launch.
jr. member
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A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.
Not to belabor an off-topic point, but the A3 is so cheap because it ships in March and it's likely doomed by a soft-fork, directed specifically at the A3, that will render it completely useless for SIA mining.
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A3 is so cheap. Bet the people who first bought are pissed.
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