Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 814. (Read 5352367 times)

With that block dance, it should create some raining blocks. Fingers crossed.

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Gotta try another BLOCK DANCE 

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We won't have anything before monday.... just a feeling....

A pool with 21.51 PH/s got a block in the last 24 hours.

I think, with the new difficulty, we have not enough hashrate.
Do you know pool with low hashrate speed than Kano who found a pool since the new diff ?

Sorry kano found that on the wiki page.

Fortunately I did get to it before you deleted it (found in the Mining Simulator of https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining).  It is a wonderful sample.  So I see that the date is included in the computation.  If that is accurate, then there will always be an answer.  So that also means that nonce does not make a huge difference and definitely there is no reason to retry skipped ones later on.

So is the Bits something that the pool changes or is that the difficulty level?

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That uses something I block, so since I can't check it, I deleted it.

Not surprised we are struggling to get that block...at, 81hrs and 11 mins we only had 15 users...well we had 1111 and that's 15 in my book

Thanks Kano.  Yes, this is all super deep stuff and thanks for your time explaining it. I've only been into mining / crypto for about 2 months, so super green on it all.  So based on your comment, the miner does not even complete the work that is assigned to them?  That must make things insane for the server software.  So does the remaining work get distributed back out to the miners again somehow or is it just ignored?

The basic explanations I have seen of mining on the web are to compute the sha256 of the block plus the number 1, then 2, then 3.  Firstly, I am not certain this is even close to what truly is happening.  If it is somewhat close, then I would assume that each miner is given the block info and a range of numbers to work on sequentially.  I have no idea of the starting and ending range for work (and I am sure it varies by miner), but lets say the first miner's work is 1 through 1000, then my thought is rather than sending 1001 to 2000 to the second miner, the pool would send a random unprocessed starting point.  For example, 1 trillion to 1 trillion + 1000.  The third miner may be 1 billion to 1 billion + 1000, etc.  Beyond that, each pool server would need to have their own range since the servers cannot communicate around the world fast enough.  On each server, a memory cache would be filled in with the next few hundred block ranges which would get mapped into a local database in the background after being assigned and repopulate more random blocks for future requests.  Of course that all gets even more insane since every miner has an individual difficulty but perhaps that could be figured in. 

Eventually someone will be assigned 2001 to 3000 when it randomly comes up.  Obviously if the block answer was found in the 2001 to 3000 work group, then this method dramatically slows what a sequential operation would do.  Anyway, that was my thought - but it is highly possible that is already happening on every pool in the world.  As I said, I'm green on this.  Thanks again and it was a pleasure to chat with you and be a part of your pool for most of my short mining life.

Well, that wasn't my AntRouter

OK time to call in another anime Goddess and request help from her - Nagi:

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(That image has been part of my desktop for many years)

Time, again, for the Block Dance! it never fails BTC

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16404614

Where is that 715% found?

If it wasn't possible to find a block, bitcoin would stop

Each individual hash is pseudo-random.
You'll not be able to find an association between two sequential hashes other than to say 'double-sha-256'
i.e. no.

Also, shares aren't distributed, work is.
The base work is the same for everyone on the pool, but the coinbase transaction is slightly different for everyone and somewhat sequential.
Each individual work item can produce more values to hash than the size of the difficulty, so you expect all work to be able to produce a block, but of course no one is able to  actually exhaust a work item in 30 seconds unless they use a proxy to a VERY large number of miners (more than exist)

You wont be able to convince me of any effect due to the sequential client ids.
It effectively doesn't exist.

Kano just mentioned the record one page up.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22073880

It's the longest one since I started mining I can say that. I dunno if it is a record for the pool.

Is there a record for longest time without a block on this pool?