Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 868. (Read 5352367 times)

Assuming a 0-transaction fee block, after 0.9% fee: 12.5 x 0.991 = 12.3875btc
0.0001 / 12.3875 = 0.0008073% of pool rate.
At today's 87PH pool rate, this threshold is about 0.7TH/s, discounting the ramping period.

I see that the complexity centered around the indeterministic timing of block found. In practice, it doesn't matter how much hash rate one has, there still exists the possibility of mining dusts during ramping period.

KanoDB restarted - an unusual one there, not a core dump, but a full on crash (in glibc) then a restart.
Failure occurred at: 2017-08-14 23:01:56 UTC
Restart completed at: 2017-08-14 23:12:43 UTC

Mining was unaffected.

Personally I've never ran at dust levels - not even close ever so no dog in this fight but on the pools Home page it *does state* I would think that since ya can't mine if using just an (invalid) address that same lock-out should happen if you register but do not provide the wallet address. No?

As for being able to mine at all beneath the Dust threshold, possibly pool-side monitor what current payout threshold based on pool THs vs any single users percentage of that. If a user goes below threshold at least auto-send them a canned email about it?

It appears we are having a database problem. Time for BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!   

Alright, let me try to role play this with my own data for a flash review:

[Drama]
KANO damn you worthless thief:
over my 13 months of service at your pool, you have stolen 0.0007751 btc from me
AND you refused to pay me
AND you refused to pay others
AND you denied your damned pool fee being 100%
AND you ignored my neat SQL fix for your mismanaged accounting code
AND you deleted my posts
AND you cost me a whole week of electrical fee with 0% return
AND Nyerk!
AND NYerk!!
AND NYErk!!!
AND NYERk!!!!
AND NYERK!!!!!

OH dear prospective miners, I now have saved your ass of multi-million-satoshi's from falling for Kano's scam, please donate to me:
1NotShadyWorld@#%%$&@$%^%$&#

[/Drama]

This is why i love internet. Any one can interpret any other's expression to the totally opposite direction at will, so easily.

You know
I remember the day, long long ago, when you could go to the local store and buy candy for 1c
They had a collection of different boxes of candy and most of them were 1c each or even 2 for 1c
You've got 1.5 candy drops there
Oh well, that is no more.

It's time to pay the piper Kano!

458257   21/Mar 12:11   14.32903560   2.387T   109hr 2m 36s   26.11PHs   0.00%   550.134k   6.02GHs   0.00000330

I want my dust Mr.!

Thank you for saying this.

I just realized that this is the 1st Kano block for torontobitcoinman

Welcome to the Acclaim Board!

Yes Mr sky will get his BTC that had no address - one day.

However, as I said, there's issues with me doing manual calculations to work out any account that has outstanding BTC, dust or no dust.
The point of the accounting code is to ensure it is correct.

I have in the past manually paid people who only had one thing - unpaid amounts.
However, even in that case, I have realised there's a possible issue there also due to the fact that you can mine to an address without an account, the same address that can be attached to an account.
As I said, the accounting code will work out the correct numbers off the blockchain transactions.
Until then, I'm not doing manual payouts for dust or people who didn't have a payout address.

The majority of that ~16 BTC is a few people who didn't put in a payout address, and they haven't asked for their BTC balance.
I guess they'll get a surprise when I finally clear the books.

I figured that out as much  I just did not bother to correct it.

As I said I am not against  you on the dust.

For most of us it is not much money.
I am also not against you on keeping the 16 bcc the dust created.


But on the other hand

the 0.30 you did not pay to him  (people #2) you are wrong.   and you make yourself look bad over it.

And I know you for about 5 years and have never said you are wrong on anything at all until that 0.30 btc .

 I never said you were wrong via pm or email or on the threads  you should pay him the 0.30 and change an put the second line in I suggested.




The dust I don't care much
The BCC from the dust I also don't care at all.

Sigh, at least get the facts right.
The troll was only dust.
You are confusing 2 people.

nope kano is wrong about that.  and  that is .3 x 4300 = 1300 usd  imo he should pay that out and put the extra line I offered for him to put to prevent it from happening again.  I actually have considered giving him a negative trust for that .3 btc.  but it would start a freaking war and pit lots of people against one another so I left it alone hoping kano would see the light of that case and pay the guy on his own.



as for dust or bcc  I don't think he is wrong but I would love to see the 16 btc in held dust at an address.

for the record here are all my dust blocks  as far as I can tell.

block
416027 ............. 0.00001262
415964 ............. 0.00001249
348276 ............. 0.00008468
335434 ............. 0.00001478
335425 ............. 0.00001470
335319 ............. 0.00002175
335280 ............. 0.00002575
335230 ............. 0.00003078
335225 ............. 0.00003134
335151 ............. 0.00004328
334947 ............. 0.00001772
334106 ............. 0.00003302
333024 ............. 0.00000015
332947 ............. 0.00000015
331660 ............. 0.00002294

Total = 0.00036615
about $ 1.57 usd at 4300 a coin

not much money  at 4300 a coin  even if you toss in the bcc it goes to $1.62 usd

I can understand some people want to be hobby miners. Let me just say there is nothing wrong with that. But. These machines eat up a lot of electricity.  At least use a miner that can turn a profit. If all he can mine with is a underpowered s7. It may be time to call it quits on the mining business. Who knows. Maybe he lives in a cold place and is trying to contribute to global warming.

Oh I know all about it, but stealing this isn't and SHOULD NOT be in a sig by some dufus who is so stupid as to not read the directions and mine without a payout set.  DUH!

kano has admitted to holding 16 btc in dust

and that would also mean 16 bcc

current prices are higher then 68,000


Kano has always promised one day he would pay the dust.

I believe Kano is telling the truth.

But I certainly see greyworld's point of view

and if I recall kano  has more the .3 btc of greyworld's btc

due to kano's choice to allow him to mine with no payout address.

all this has been discussed in the thread .  Including me telling kano that if coins keep going up up up   dust will be a bigger and bigger issue.

Kano  is a stubborn person fact not an insult.  In most cases it is good for him to be stubborn  but in the case of greyworld I feel he is wrong and tried to mediate a bit.  Kano  said no and as I have said before it is his pool and his rules.

I still believe he had a lack of clarity in greyworld's case and I would award greyworld his coins if I were kano.

As for the dust it grows in value.
and as for the bcc  kano said he won't support it.  he did not say he would not take if for his self.

You all need to under stand  Kano may have the 16 coins of dust sitting and never touched it.  He has never said he spent it he has never said he stores it.

If he spent it paying it back will be hard to do if coins go to 10,000
If he always held it  he did us all a favor as prices went up.
Since he said he will not support BCC  if he held the 16 BTC in dust and kept the 16 BCC.  It is about 4800 usd.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20635687

Not sure posting that link helps or hinders the problem.  

Must be still having a tantrum about dust.

same here   must block ON

WTF is greyworld saying in his sig about kanopool stealing $68,000???  You guys see this crap??