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Happy birthday Kano and NomadGroup!

Stales happen

Happy birthday Kano , thanks for all the great Maintenance and service on this pool

Me neither
But at least we got 3 so far

Stale???    . That's not a very nice birthday present for me! 

No, was actually stale.
I've changed the flagging of it.

On the web it was an immediate orphan coz it was already stale, but any block submitted that isn't worked on is auto-flagged as orphan until I manually check everything then flag it.

I've looked through everything to be sure, but yep it was a stale share.
The share came into the Silicon Valley node at 2017-08-10 20:28:30.533 UTC
But all nodes and the main pool had already switched to the poo block by then.

agggggg dang we almost would of been close to going green for aug. if that was not an orphan. 

Arghhhhh!  !@^%(@%$*@&$#^*&@$ Antpoo !@#$*(#W$(*&^$(# 

Better not be any of the flaky timing on the relays in/out of the GFW again damnit!!!

Block!?  Ahhhhh, orphan...

+1

Block by ferelic with 52.23TH/s!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!

This is our 3rd of BLOCK THURSDAY!

Big fat block at 14.28+

Just wanted to reinforce the thank-you for the explanation, Kano on math involved in diff, etc. You won't get that anywhere else but here.

There are miners listed on the Acclaim Board with amazingly small hash rates so don't be surprised when you make it

usernamehere with 12.29THs made the list back in March for example.

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So if your miner does ~17THs then you'd expect to expend (3.9x10^21) / (17*10^12) seconds, on average, to find a block at the current difficulty
Which is about 233million seconds or about 7.4 years
But since difficulty changes, there no point in saying that silly large number, it's better to simply say that at the current difficulty, your 17THs has a 1 in 2699.7 chance of finding a block in 1 day, which makes sense and is correct to actually say that.

Of course it's random and you could find it today, or you could never find it.
Them's the breaks

I also have a web page that does these sort of calculations for you:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php
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Wow!  Great explanation that did go a little over my head, but I get the gist of it and I can see the numbers getting huge very quickly.  I will settle in and wait for my dice to roll double 6's   

Thanks for the calculator link too, good stuff. 

Cheers

Yes I do realise the 'retard' did it on purpose and knew it would cause problems for bitcoiners, but in the assumption that BCH would replace BTC.

But that's even worse than doing it by mistake ...

BCH was claimed to have been created to over come the problem of the UASF.
Once that problem was removed, BCH should have disappeared.
Since it didn't disappear, it means that Bitmain and ViaBTC purposely caused problems for Bitcoin, when they could have simply avoided them with a few lines of code change.
Yes I do know it's only a few lines of code change, I've done it before for testing purposes.

So, what's better?
1) Calling him a 'retard' for making a mistake (not the case) or
2) Lynching him up for risking screwing around with everyone's Bitcoin wallet who runs BCH ...

I worded it as 1), but since it really is 2), when and where's the hanging?

I agree, there isn't a good reason to mine BCH for the moment, but as things change, it may become time to rethink.  The most interesting part of your post what the part I quoted above.  I am surprised you are taking this position with "BitCH".  It seems apparent to me... that the "retard" who coded BCH used the same ports, and the same node list lookup... on PURPOSE.  I don't think that the folks who created BCH plan for it to be an altcoin.  I think they plan for it to replace BTC.  Maybe when the Blockstream zombies fail to turn on the 2x part of Segwit2x, or who knows why or when.  I realize that my opinion is not unique and there is a ton of this going around on some of the reddit pages.   But any way you slice that pie, I think it is unlikely that they made a mistake or didn't know what they were doing.  I think it was cold and calculated.  That doesn't mean what they did was good or right, but I believe it was with purpose, and not because he was retarded. 

Obviously Kano, my understanding of life the universe and everything BTC pales in comparison to yours, but at minimum something to consider.

There's no build up to finding a block.

A block is simply found by one single hash if it gives the low enough value to be a block.
That block was:
 000000000000000000b6a5fb2524fb754860e9a3321695b51ccc566ee163d36a

Which is the double sha256 hash of the 80 byte block header which is:
 Version + Previous Block Hash + Merkle Root + Block 'Time' + Network Difficulty + Nonce

So:


The chance of finding a block is purely random statistics.
Imagine you roll a dice, if you dont have a weighted dice and you can't affect the result of the roll, the chance of rolling a 6 is one in six.

Bitcoin mining is the same idea.
You are feeding numbers into hashing hardware, at a given THs rate

1 THs = 10^12 hashes per second

Network difficulty is currently 0x180130e0 (as mentioned above) but that also comes out as 923233068448.9053
I'll round it to 9.2x10^11

That number represents a ratio vs a 1 difficulty share.
A 1 difficulty share is randomly found, on average, once every 2^32 hashes
So the current difficulty says we should find a block, on average, once every 9.2x10^11 x 2^32 hashes = 3.9x10^21 hashes
Yep that's a pretty big number

That also currently represents '100%' on the blocks page.

So if your miner does ~17THs then you'd expect to expend (3.9x10^21) / (17*10^12) seconds, on average, to find a block at the current difficulty
Which is about 233million seconds or about 7.4 years
But since difficulty changes, there no point in saying that silly large number, it's better to simply say that at the current difficulty, your 17THs has a 1 in 2699.7 chance of finding a block in 1 day, which makes sense and is correct to actually say that.

Of course it's random and you could find it today, or you could never find it.
Them's the breaks

I also have a web page that does these sort of calculations for you:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

Hi MEARK, many of us here are still waiting/hoping to make the acclaim board, including me!  Indeed you need to solve a block to get there.  Good luck to you, since if you get on the board we all get PAID!!  
Cheers

Possibly dumb question about block finding... I've been mining in Kano for about a month now, watching this message board like a hawk and learning a lot along the way.

I am looking forward to getting on the Acclaim Board some day.  How does one "find" a block... is it the miner who solves the last calculation or fills the last space in a given block?  I can clearly see the big miners with PH power find more blocks.  With just ~17 TH to my name, will I ever "find" one... is this a factor of luck?  Am I even using the right terminology?

OK that was actually 3 questions.    

Thanks in advance!

Block! by gmb with ~30Ths

That one was also pretty awse coz it's not completely full (63 second network block) but I watched the payout for 479844 go out about 1 minute 41 seconds before the block was found and bang, a block with the payout in it, and it didn't even waste any block space at all (not even free space)

Block by cobramining!

Nice increase of Hashrate, let's reach 100 PH and celebrate!