Topic: Key Points about the Jewish religion (Read 4269 times)

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I dont use youtube, whats the movie called? Jacobs ladder.. 10/10, liked it so much, I made a tune with samples taken from the explanation given to jacob as the doves flew overhead..

I don't think many atheists would have a problem with not being included in the "world to come" if it is going to look anything like Isreal/Palestine or Iraq.

if its going to be all holy war and jihad I think I would rather stay home and live in the comfort of my relative paradise.

ultimately people from all faiths need to decide whether they want to create "Paradise" in heaven by destroying the earth or create "Paradise" on earth and wait and see what else happens.

The Druze faith began as a movement in Ismailism that was mainly influenced by Greek philosophy and Gnosticism and opposed certain religious and philosophical ideologies that were present during that epoch.

The faith was preached by Hamza ibn 'Alī ibn Ahmad, an Ismaili mystic and scholar. He came to Egypt in 1014 and assembled a group of scholars and leaders from across the world to establish the Unitarian movement. The order's meetings were held in the Raydan Mosque, near the Al-Hakim Mosque.

In 1017, Hamza officially revealed the Druze faith and began to preach the Unitarian doctrine. Hamza gained the support of the Fātimid Caliph al-Hakim, who issued a decree promoting religious freedom prior to the declaration of the divine call.

Remove ye the causes of fear and estrangement from yourselves. Do away with the corruption of delusion and conformity. Be ye certain that the Prince of Believers hath given unto you free will, and hath spared you the trouble of disguising and concealing your true beliefs, so that when ye work ye may keep your deeds pure for God. He hath done thus so that when you relinquish your previous beliefs and doctrines ye shall not indeed lean on such causes of impediments and pretensions. By conveying to you the reality of his intention, the Prince of Believers hath spared you any excuse for doing so. He hath urged you to declare your belief openly. Ye are now safe from any hand which may bring harm unto you. Ye now may find rest in his assurance ye shall not be wronged. Let those who are present convey this message unto the absent so that it may be known by both the distinguished and the common people. It shall thus become a rule to mankind; and Divine Wisdom shall prevail for all the days to come.


Established possibly exactly 1000 years ago this week, and officially 1000 years in 2017 ? Tis a cause for celebration !

The Druze head wear is my favorite. I think the Druze community is very interesting. From a Rabbi I talked to, a person born to a Jewish mother can be secular or even be an atheist and is still considered Jewish. So I would still be considered Jewish even if I am secular.

Though he did say that atheists have no place in Olam Haba (The World to Come).

out of all the thousands of types of holy head wear, what is your favourite ?those pointy hats probably started off 6 inches high many years ago a grew year by year, a bit like the growth of the mitre ... in 500 years the mitre could be 6 foot tall ?

This is more about Christianity than Judaism, but this is my favorite religious movie. Not my favorite movie of all-time; that would be Jacob's Ladder. But my favorite religious movie.

The Body starring Spanish actor Antonio Banderas and Israeli Actor Mohammad Bakri.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZllO9w0DKA

My explanation of your stupidity is just above mine.. I never used 1,2,3, to make an example.. I used how long maths has existed.. since before any life on THIS planet.. YOu are to dumb to know that before your understanding of maths, space was devided by time. And for eternal thought to exist (the creative force) - Time must exist, denoting MATHS, go learn to count.. yeah we all see different, but to claim man made maths is as stupid as to say women didnt..

using 1 + 1 = 2 to demonstrate maths is just plain, basic, stupid, and shows your ability to understand the point here.

your math is just an observation based on your level of knowledge.  

those that think they are very knowledgeable also pretend to be so.  you listen to them when they teach or preach because you are told they are smarter than you and you believe them.

the human race is actually quite dumb, proof of that is its inability to find equilibrium with the earth. ohh and war.  i forgot war.

you see one glass of water.  or maybe two.. but some see h2o, some see atoms, some guess that there are electrons orbiting and guess the orbits, dig deeper and you find protons and neutrons, now some are discussing the possibility of seeing matter and antimatter.  

this is all math and it is all very basic.  it is all a created observation to try and explain why and how the world works to make us feel, i repeat feel, secure.

before we had the math model or orbits and stars and planets, we said that the sun god rah brought the sun out in the morning so we wouldn't be afraid it wouldn't come back.

i don't think anyone believes in rah anymore, since there is no longer a need, but yet still we believe in all the other gods.  

stupidity needs explanations.  this sums up my sense of religion and your understanding of it.  

Just as America (currently Muslim) and Britain(Masonic)/Israel (Jews) approve whatever they want.. no-one else has a say.. or will die if they try.. 

I'd like to throw a spanner in the works here, and please note this post is theoretical..?

My interest in all dem books is nothing more than a quest to find out how they all seem to know so much about what is GOING to happen. As a seer, yup, I carry that burden, I know they must have used the same weirdness that causes some to 'see' like no other.. and this quest/search kept looping in on itself, everything I read, I thought of before ever finding whatever - whatever book said.. it was all a question of time in my eye's.. being scientifically minded, I could'nt help thinking, I knew this before, and here I'm reading what I can only describe as life confirming what I thought.. space..where time becomes a loop..

Theoretically, we have all done this before, and are doing it again, but 1 thing no-one has considered is this.. we are about to do it again. See, noah, could not in a million years build a boat big enough to hold 2 of every life form on the planet, I dont care what folks think of this. However, if I KNEW a flood was coming.. wait a minute.. there has always been and always will be the same amount of water on the earth, not a drop more or a drop less.. the only way the water could raise up to the point of covering k2 and mount everest, to name a few, is if the gravity of the planet changed enough to make water light enough to cover said mountains. Or something pushed every last drop of water out from every crevice the earth hides the water in. And the only way to guarantee being above whatever, would be to place something higher.. Todays geneticist's placed the dna into a space ship called meir, and now you can hear, but can you see?

Can you see that the earth was born when a smaller moon the size of a comet hurtled through space going so fast when it hit the sun, it travelled clean though it, taking a peice of the sun with it, which was so big, it is still cooling down to this day..

And dont forget, there is evidence of a multitude of so called floods..

Totally true, people shaped their god to their own advantage, and that "allows" those pesky IS(IS) guy's to murder thousants of people becouse some god apperantly approves it..

this is not true.. if you go back through history, India and China were just as warlike as the middle east and Europe..
the difference is that the Abrahamic faiths are all monotheistic and absolute...  e.g.. my god is the only god, my way is the only way.


the religions of Daoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, and Hinduism are all polytheistic or agnostic about the issue of god so they tend to coexist simply because they accept the validity of each others point of view.

Daosim worships nature and ancestors
Confucianism is a school of philosophy which also worships ancestors. but has more of a focus on right actions and conduct.
Buddhism is a school of philosophy and a religion which is agnostic about the issue of god.. whether god exists or not is not important and neither is the question of what god actually is.
Hinduism is a collection of polytheistic sects/sub-religions.. (ie the worship of many gods and deities.. one of them being Buddha)

this is why they can exist together because none of them is saying that the others are completely wrong and we are completely right.

does this mean that those countries have fewer wars? absolutely not.. just that they have fewer wars based on religion.
and of course it helps that some of those religions are actually pacifist.

god didn't make man in his own image..
man made god in his own image.. that is why most of them are male and quite violent.

even if you take just the Abrahamic god.. he/she/it has changed so much over the thousands of years to reflect the thinking and morality of the time.

the god of Canaanites was war like and domineering, the god of the Hebrews was spiteful and jealous, the god of the Christians was forgiving and non interventionist, the god of the Muslims was expansionist and absolute.

of course this is the same god so you can find all of these traits in any of the Abrahamic faiths if you look back through their holy texts.

I'm actually more in favor of polytheism than monotheism because it has more in common with pluralism.

there are many gods (or interpretations of God).. you can worship whichever one you want just as long as your worship does not deny my right to live in peace.

Like I said before, God is warlike if you come from a warlike region. If you come from a peaceful region, you get things like Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism; more peaceful religions and more peaceful Gods.

I was going to make a sequel thread to my Israel and Judaism threads entitled "Why I am now secular". But Mover is against the idea. I am as secular as can be now. This knowledge came when I had a more religious outlook in life. And I like the Tanakh's (Hebrew Bible) lessons on life. But I can tell you now that I am secular.

i dont think woden was a pedo was he?all the sadistic shit came with the abrahamic texts .out of all the thousands of gods that were invented, what is your favourite god ?

God was going to destroy the world with a flood, but he found one man; a single righteous man (Noah). So he spared the world by letting Noah live and let mankind continue on. That is the moral of the story of Noah. That is the religious interpretation. It is a message of God's love.

In the secular interpretation, peaceful places of the world had peaceful Gods. But warlike places, like ancient Greece and ancient Israel, had warlike Gods.

Hope this helps.

what if i go to church one day to listen what bigotry is being broadcast and i accidentally waltz in on child orgy day am i supposed to be impressed with these church staff raping children or what

there must be something special about it if the government and media are willing to cover it up

Who suggested that? You asked a question, and I answered it in the vein of the very true statement that we create gods in our own image.
I have no idea where you came up with the drivel about a duty to perpetuate atrocities. I know I don't feel such a duty. If you do, I think you should probably seek professional help.

All man is flawed, god is not. You can not use a flawed system to interpret a flawless system. Better off being agnostic.