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Quote from: DaveF on March 17, 2024, 09:32:38 AM

Yup, I just (As in yesterday) have had the battery in my 3 die.

You are not the only one with this problem, I heard many complains from their customers that batteries in Keystone 3 are much worse quality than in older Keystone.
That can be a problem with many new Lithium batteries, if you don't use them all the time (charge/discharge) they quickly become unusable.
It's not complicated to buy new one, but problem is that it is hard to replace the battery without triggering Keystone self-destruct mechanism Tongue

Quote from: DaveF on March 17, 2024, 09:32:38 AM

Can't anyone make anything that is not crap anymore.

They can, but it would be much more expensive and not made in China.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 12, 2024, 12:48:54 PM

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I hoped they would release different new device with removable battery before halving, but I don't think that is happening now.

Yup, I just (As in yesterday) have had the battery in my 3 die.

When it was dead yesterday I figured it just needed a charge. 2 chargers and 2 different USB cables 24 hours later it's still just as dead.

I can run it off a USB cable to power it, but the battery is stuck at 0% and will not charge Sad

Can't anyone make anything that is not crap anymore.

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Quote from: DaveF on March 12, 2024, 07:53:20 AM

Also, keep in mind this firmware has more limited wallet support options.

I already mentioned those supported wallets above Wink

This is more than Keystone bitcoin wallets supported in multi-coin firmware, now Nunchuk and Specter are added.
I hoped they would release different new device with removable battery before halving, but I don't think that is happening now.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 12, 2024, 06:28:39 AM

Keystone just released a new beta version of Bitcoin-Only Firmware for Keystone 3 Pro wallet, with bitcoin main network and testnet.
Note that once you switch to bitcoin-only firmware it is going to be impossible to revert back to the multi-currency firmware.
Supported wallets are Blue wallet, Sparrow, Nunchuck and Specter wallet.

New firmware can be download from official website and code can be verified on Keystone github:
https://keyst.one/firmware?ft=btc-only
https://github.com/KeystoneHQ/keystone3-firmware/releases/tag/0.9.0-BTC

Also, keep in mind this firmware has more limited wallet support options.

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Blue, Sparrow, Nunchuck and Specter

It's not like their current multi coin firmware that has a lot more that you can use.

Not incredibly important, but I can see someone not reading down to see that line.

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Keystone just released a new beta version of Bitcoin-Only Firmware for Keystone 3 Pro wallet, with bitcoin main network and testnet.
Note that once you switch to bitcoin-only firmware it is going to be impossible to revert back to the multi-currency firmware.
Supported wallets are Blue wallet, Sparrow, Nunchuck and Specter wallet.

New firmware can be download from official website and code can be verified on Keystone github:
https://keyst.one/firmware?ft=btc-only
https://github.com/KeystoneHQ/keystone3-firmware/releases/tag/0.9.0-BTC

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 28, 2024, 03:57:44 PM

Totally stupid in my opinion... now they are offering ''Bull market return'' discount Roll Eyes

Tomorrow, we should have a discount because we are sad bitcoin didn't go above $65.000 yet.

Quote from: dkbit98 on February 28, 2024, 03:57:44 PM

Something is not really a discount if you are offering it all the time.... just sayin.

Of course, not. They just want to sell more devices, no matter what. But yeah, it would look much better if they jut offered a discount code for the next week/month/custom period of their choice, instead of using a new one every day.

Quote from: dkbit98 on February 28, 2024, 03:57:44 PM

Check out this video of Keystone device entering passphrase on it's own!
https://twitter.com/SaintelDaily/status/1757028148212793654

I have never seen that before. The guy says the device clicks on random areas on his screen no matter what he does on it, which hinders normal usage of the wallet.

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 25, 2024, 05:02:09 AM

And today is 25 February, which means Lightning Pizza Day.

Totally stupid in my opinion... now they are offering ''Bull market return'' discount Roll Eyes

Something is not really a discount if you are offering it all the time.... just sayin.

Another weird thing coming from Keystone is their weak quality control, and I noticed similar stuff like this several times.
Check out this video of Keystone device entering passphrase on it's own!
https://twitter.com/SaintelDaily/status/1757028148212793654

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Quote from: m2017 on February 25, 2024, 09:15:06 AM

It’s funny (not for Ledger) that the Keystone team gives an excellent reason to get rid of ledger devices. An excellent ~~blow to a competitor~~ a marketing ploy (marketing department doesn't get its salary for nothing). Look, maybe this will become a new trend (giving discounts on HW products to former ledger customers).

You get to kill two birds with one stone (Keystone). You have an opportunity to onboard more users to your products and weaken the competition and have people abandon their devices at the same time. Ledger only have themselves to blame, of course. All this started after they announced Ledger Recover and made it available for the Nano X.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 22, 2024, 01:15:49 PM

Keystone discounts are getting really silly... now they have 20% pet day sale Roll Eyes

And today is 25 February, which means Lightning Pizza Day. In other words, it's another opportunity to create a special 20% discount on new sales. It is getting ridiculous, but I like that they are giving new customers so many opportunities to purchase their products at discounted prices.

Let's not forget the lifelong 28% discount for Ledger users who decide to purchase a Keystone.

It’s funny (not for Ledger) that the Keystone team gives an excellent reason to get rid of ledger devices. An excellent ~~blow to a competitor~~ a marketing ploy (marketing department doesn't get its salary for nothing). Look, maybe this will become a new trend (giving discounts on HW products to former ledger customers).

Many users on the forum voiced their desire to replace their Nano S / S+/ X with another one. Keystone provides this opportunity.

It should be added that to receive a discount, will need to provide proof of Ledger's purchase to [email protected] (they will provide a discount code).

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 22, 2024, 01:15:49 PM

Keystone discounts are getting really silly... now they have 20% pet day sale Roll Eyes

And today is 25 February, which means Lightning Pizza Day. In other words, it's another opportunity to create a special 20% discount on new sales. It is getting ridiculous, but I like that they are giving new customers so many opportunities to purchase their products at discounted prices.

Let's not forget the lifelong 28% discount for Ledger users who decide to purchase a Keystone.

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Guys from Keystone released a new Roadmap page on their website, so we can see what they are working on.
They are accepting suggestions and that is always good, but we can see that full support for Taproot is finally coming in February with some other updates.
More important updates in Q1 2024 are support for formatting SD cards and XPUB export/display.
No words about Bitcoin only device like I was expecting Tongue

https://keyst.one/roadmap

Keystone discounts are getting really silly... now they have 20% pet day sale Roll Eyes

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Quote from: SFR10 on January 30, 2024, 06:34:26 PM

I'm wondering if that finally means it's the end of the road for the non-Pro variant ^{[they're already way behind schedule]}.

No I don't think so, but they should reduce the price of keystone regular version to around $80, similar like Trezor 3 Safe and ledger s plus.
Keystone Bitcoin only version device is just a special edition for halving event, I just hope they are going to add removable battery again in that model.
Maybe Trezor and other manufacturers will do something similar... I can't remember if they did special editions for previous halving(s).

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 30, 2024, 03:39:28 PM

Keystone should rename and rebrand to Discount hardware wallet... they are offering reduced prices all the time Wink

Exactly, that's been their marketing strategy for as long as I can remember, and if they keep doing it, sooner or later it'd have a reverse effect on how people see their brand as a whole.

Quote from: dkbit98 on January 30, 2024, 03:39:28 PM

Interesting for all ledger users who want to make a transition and buy keystone wallet they have lifetime 28% discount if they have prrof of purchased ledger!

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/kgwO1.jpeg

A cheeky move, but I love it Cheesy

Quote from: dkbit98 on January 30, 2024, 03:39:28 PM

They are preparing release of Bitcoin only Keystone device around Bitcoin halving, that should be in few months probably.

I'm wondering if that finally means it's the end of the road for the non-Pro variant ^{[they're already way behind schedule]}.

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Keystone should rename and rebrand to Discount hardware wallet... they are offering reduced prices all the time Wink

Interesting for all ledger users who want to make a transition and buy keystone wallet they have lifetime 28% discount if they have prrof of purchased ledger!

For everyone else Keystone is currently offering special 26% discount for their 6th anniversary, and price for Keystone 3 Pro is now around $95 with free shipping for most countries:

https://keyst.one/

Quote from: SFR10 on January 26, 2024, 09:38:31 AM

September of last year[/url]", they still haven't released Keystone 3 and the Pro variant only comes with a "multi-coin firmware".
^{- Am I missing something here?}

They are preparing release of Bitcoin only Keystone device around Bitcoin halving, that should be in few months probably.

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Quote from: safar1980 on January 26, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

Why does Keystone 3 only have Bitcoin firmware?

AFAIK, despite their plans to bring it to the market in "September of last year", they still haven't released Keystone 3 and the Pro variant only comes with a "multi-coin firmware".
^{- Am I missing something here?}

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BTW, today is the last day of their 20% discount for coming Keystone 3 Pro.

Quote from: https://keyst.one/shop/products/keystone-3pro

Ledger users who can prove their purchase are even in favored position as they may enjoy lifelong offer to pay for device 28% less than its ordinary price at the time of purchase.

Also they promise to delete all shipping data after 180 days to prevent them from leaking.

Quote from: https://blog.keyst.one/shipping-data-retention-policy-db473493483c

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 25, 2024, 03:11:30 PM

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Sorry, It seems that I misremembered; looks like BitBox02 'edition' cannot be switched, not even from Multi to Bitcoin-only (not even permanently).

Quote from: dkbit98 on January 25, 2024, 03:11:30 PM

As for Keystone, if I understood correctly they plan to release totally different device for Bitcoin halving, so both hardware and software will be different.
Let's wait and see... Bitcoin halving is in less than 90 days, so time is ticking away for Keystone.

This sounds exciting, I'll be looking forward to the news then!

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Why does Keystone 3 only have Bitcoin firmware? My ledger is updated only through official software and the manufacturer knows what firmware I have and may be able to get my private keys. Keystone 3 has secure update via SD card.

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Quote from: n0nce on January 24, 2024, 06:42:53 PM

No offense to Keystone, but from what we've seen from other manufacturers, it seems industry standard that the 'Bitcoin-only option' is the same hardware with a Bitcoin-only firmware.

Older keystone devices had the option of choosing Bitcoin only firmware, but you could not return back and install multi-coin version again.
Trezor also has bitcoin only firmware but I think you can always flash it and install multi-coin firmware on same devices.

Quote from: n0nce on January 24, 2024, 06:42:53 PM

The idea is to prevent someone flashing the 'regular' firmware with bigger attack surface, even if just temporarily, and getting their valuable Bitcoin seed phrase stolen. I know that BitBox02 Bitcoin-only works like that.

Not sure how bitbox firmware installation works but I know they have two different device versions.
As for Keystone, if I understood correctly they plan to release totally different device for Bitcoin halving, so both hardware and software will be different.
Let's wait and see... Bitcoin halving is in less than 90 days, so time is ticking away for Keystone.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on January 24, 2024, 04:01:03 PM

I am waiting to see Keystone new Bitcoin only hardware wallet that was announced to be released around bitcoin halving date, and I hope it's not the same as Keystone 3 with different firmware.
I want to see removable battery back, and maybe adding protection for screen with basic waterproofing.

No offense to Keystone, but from what we've seen from other manufacturers, it seems industry standard that the 'Bitcoin-only option' is the same hardware with a Bitcoin-only firmware.
Which is not bad and totally sufficient for me, especially if it's somehow technically locked to only run Bitcoin-only firmware. The idea is to prevent someone flashing the 'regular' firmware with bigger attack surface, even if just temporarily, and getting their valuable Bitcoin seed phrase stolen. I know that BitBox02 Bitcoin-only works like that.

But of course, as hardcore Bitcoin users we'd love to get something special. Tongue

I just wouldn't hold my breath.

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