[Klondike] Case design thread for K16

loshia

legendary

Activity: 1610

Merit: 1000

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 02, 2014, 07:48:43 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 02, 2013, 01:08:13 PM

Trying to fit 512 into a rack mounted server... wish me luck.

Interesting... should I ask Spondoolies if they stole my crappy design idea?

LOL.

Knew it was possible.

LOL,
You are inventing the real Bick Grin

Please take my apologies but while you are posting pictures and blinking LEDs other folks do real work.
Read this once again
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/pages/team
I am sure that they knew that this case is possible but they knew exactly why.
That is main difference between you and everybody
You knew EVERYTHING but you do not know why Grin

I am sure they stole your brilliant idea Grin

I do strongly suggest to give spondtech negative rating right away and bring red light to lost soles Grin

Or even better stop wasping around with their chips immediately. They do not deserve it right?
Buy the way how is your AMT PARTNER rating doing lately? They do desperately need your POSITIVE RATING.

Please hurry up and save Zipkin ass Grin

We all know that everything is possible but someone has to do the job at the end.
That is something to discus on your next meeting Grin

Just for the record 512 avalon gen 1 are about 3200-3500 wats
And you knew that you need at least 2 psu's for that 512 box which are missing .....
And I know the your box was about to melt right away like AMT CRAP IS MELTING Grin

Just focus on blinking LEDs Bick. That is where you are damn good Grin

Bicknellski

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 1000

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 02, 2013, 01:08:13 PM

Trying to fit 512 into a rack mounted server... wish me luck.

Interesting... should I ask Spondoolies if they stole my crappy design idea?

LOL.

Knew it was possible.

Spotswood

sr. member

Activity: 512

Merit: 250

Is there a Sketchup model of the K-16 board?

SebastianJu

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1083

Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile

Does someone know what material would be best to form an air tunnel? Im not sure whats best. It should be flexible so that i can bend it to create a tunnel. For example tape it on the fan so that the air flows in it, then connect to the heatsinks and so on.
The material would need to be dynamic enough but stable too. And im not sure how to fasten it. Glue strip? It should be tight so no air loss happens, it shouldnt create shortcuts for sure an so on.
I have some ESD-glue-strip here, maybe using this to fasten the tunnel material?

Aggrophobia

legendary

Activity: 1078

Merit: 1001

These heatsinks aren't optimized for airflow, so it won't have such a great effect.

If someone contemplates to purchase such a 3U case, i could provide a service of building and shipping.

SebastianJu

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 1083

Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile

I wonder is it doable this way with cables attached? And i think the airflow to cool the chips isnt optimized. There is space between the heatsinks so the air isnt forced through the heatsinks and you would need a cover at the top to prevent the air from going the easier way. Only my thoughts because the new known overclocking capability will be used by many i believe.

Aggrophobia

legendary

Activity: 1078

Merit: 1001

42 K16 in 1 3RU Rack with 355mm depth

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

Quote from: turtle83 on June 30, 2013, 02:01:14 PM

Your adapter idea game me a somewhat related idea. Find heatsink thats the size of a HDD and drill holes into it. The thin pcb on top of it. That should fit everywhere a HDD can go... Length of 3.5" HDD is 146mm so make it a little longer, and stick 2 K16 per heatsink.

Hmm, I like your idea of placing two K16's lengthwise into a 3.5" HDD bay...

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

Quote from: turtle83 on June 30, 2013, 02:01:14 PM

From the looks of it, it seems that the PCB will not be able to tolerate the weight of the heatsink. They would be too heavy. The heatsink would need to be mounted on the case, and the PCB mounted on the heatsink.

I could certainly test the strength - I have a lot of heatsinks laying around. But I think it will be more than adequate.

If it is an issue the adapters can be extended upward, and the heatsink bolted directly to the adapter, thereby sandwiching the PCB between the two.

[edit] Picture with heatsink support:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2621173

turtle83

sr. member

Activity: 322

Merit: 250

Supersonic

Quote from: jdape on June 30, 2013, 01:44:57 PM

This is how you could mount K16's (and K64's) into a standard PC case using Micro-ATX form factor.

http://www.forked.net/~apex/k16/K16_micro_atx_x16.png

http://www.forked.net/~apex/k16/K16_micro_atx_populated.png

Heatsinks are 20mm tall.

From the looks of it, it seems that the PCB will not be able to tolerate the weight of the heatsink. They would be too heavy. The heatsink would need to be mounted on the case, and the PCB mounted on the heatsink.

Your adapter idea game me a somewhat related idea. Find heatsink thats the size of a HDD and drill holes into it. The thin pcb on top of it. That should fit everywhere a HDD can go... Length of 3.5" HDD is 146mm so make it a little longer, and stick 2 K16 per heatsink.

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

This is how you could mount K16's (and K64's) into a standard PC case using Micro-ATX form factor.

Heatsinks are 20mm tall.

Bicknellski

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 1000

Mock it up.

Given that most heat sinks are going to work to remove the heat we are not constrained really. But it be nice to see a mock up with cables etc.

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

Quote from: Bicknellski on June 30, 2013, 02:01:10 AM

Quote from: jdape on June 29, 2013, 08:36:22 PM

Klondike 16 Mounting Adapters here with pictures:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/klondike-adapters-and-mounting-systems-246638

Nice simple solution... I have added your bracket mounting solution to the DIY Reference thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reference-klondike-diyers-thread-227186

I'd like to see your mock up for the cabling and with heat sink attached to see the spacing you can achieve in the 3.5 HDD bays. Also our coop might be interested in bulk orders of this.

It's my understanding that as of now, there's no standard heatsink for Klondike. That's one reason I haven't gone further in my designs. If the heatsink + PCB height is 20mm or less, it should be possible to fit one K16 per 3.5" HDD bay.

Bicknellski

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 1000

Quote from: jdape on June 29, 2013, 08:36:22 PM

Klondike 16 Mounting Adapters here with pictures:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/klondike-adapters-and-mounting-systems-246638

Nice simple solution... I have added your bracket mounting solution to the DIY Reference thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/reference-klondike-diyers-thread-227186

I'd like to see your mock up for the cabling and with heat sink attached to see the spacing you can achieve in the 3.5 HDD bays. Also our coop might be interested in bulk orders of this.

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

Klondike 16 Mounting Adapters here with pictures:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/klondike-adapters-and-mounting-systems-246638

bassclef

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 1000

Quote from: jdape on June 29, 2013, 03:54:24 PM

I have designed and will be offering for sale:

Klondike 16 to 3.5" HDD Universal Adapter Mount (allows horizontal or vertical mounting)
Klondike 16 to PCIE x16 and x8 (maybe x4/x1 if they are strong enough) slot Adapter Mount
Klondike 16 to PCI upper-rail support (like those used in certain 4U rackmount cases). For example there's an $85 Chenbro 4U case on Newegg that could mount at least 13 K16 boards using 5x 3.5" adapters and 8x PCIE upper rail adapters.

These will be 3D-printed. I've already printed and tested them. They work very well.

Also, might sell 'kits' with I2C comm cables, and PCIE 6 pin power cables for the K16's.

Pics later. I'd like to know if there's any interest before going too far down this road.

Prices would be cheap. *very rough guess* $5 per adapter, with $5 shipping in CONUS. Kits for $10 or $15, bulk discounts, etc.

I like the idea of using a 3.5" hdd adapter to fill empty drive bays in my existing pc. Definitely interested.

jdape

sr. member

Activity: 269

Merit: 250

I have designed and will be offering for sale:

Klondike 16 to 3.5" HDD Universal Adapter Mount (allows horizontal or vertical mounting)
Klondike 16 to PCIE x16 and x8 (maybe x4/x1 if they are strong enough) slot Adapter Mount
Klondike 16 to PCI upper-rail support (like those used in certain 4U rackmount cases). For example there's an $85 Chenbro 4U case on Newegg that could mount at least 13 K16 boards using 5x 3.5" adapters and 8x PCIE upper rail adapters.

These will be 3D-printed. I've already printed and tested them. They work very well.

Also, might sell 'kits' with I2C comm cables, and PCIE 6 pin power cables for the K16's.

Pics later. I'd like to know if there's any interest before going too far down this road.

Prices would be cheap. *very rough guess* $8 per adapter, with $5 shipping in CONUS. Kits for $12 or $15, bulk discounts, etc.

jimrome

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 250

Quote from: SebastianJu on June 26, 2013, 12:13:57 PM

Quote from: jimrome on June 15, 2013, 09:50:27 AM

Does one have to build such cases or is it prebuilt to buy somewhere? I probably dont get where to find such things or how they are named.

The 3RU case can be bought from any number of vendors. I went with Metcase's "Combimet" series: http://www.metcase.co.uk/enclosures/combimet19.htm

I'm having parts machined to customize the enclosure to house 24 x K16s in 8 x 3 "blade" rows.

Bicknellski

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 1000

Intel Uses Mineral Oil to Cool Servers, Finds Success

By Tuan Mai

SEPTEMBER 5, 2012 10:00 AM - Source: Wired

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Server-Cooling-Hardware-mineral-oil,17348.html

Quote

According to Intel, the tested servers only needed another 2 to 3 percent of server power for cooling, down from the typical 50 or 60 percent overhead of standard servers.

turtle83

sr. member

Activity: 322

Merit: 250

Supersonic

...and when you want to remove the oil... for reselling or relocating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huGl2hfzL90

Shocked

Topic: [Klondike] Case design thread for K16 (Read 37958 times)