Topic: KRUNIAC Scam ASIC 1 share - page 3. (Read 21681 times)

Unlike this guy who will never learn ^^^

What proof?

Kruniac, this post shows you have some compassion. I think you experimented with scamming and now you find it doesn't sit right.

Now, with all this hostility against you, it seems there's no way back for you - but there is my friend. All you have to do to sleep well at night is say 'fuck it', pay the people back what you took from them - it'll hurt - yes - but you will gain kudos. Create a new account. Start again. Lesson learned = I could be a scammer - sure - if I wanted - but didn't feel right - made me feel bad - something wrong about it like kicking a puppy.

Yes I have, What proof do you need?

No you haven't. GTFO.

Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui   aspeer              2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

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14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

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126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

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19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

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1mKXkntCBzuLEvNoencLTqT8cVZDjrgVg           TheOrri    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK          finlof             2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

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1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

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1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

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1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

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                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d
TheOrri refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 9508f058aa9292eb6e418744dc893fa23a2bb94cb097ddf7061929d4ae512386
finlof refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 76308081a97400985ce42fcdaff6360cdeb6ce6dac9da9e77e16e733f313146b
hwmax refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f204086ef7525679336fd271395e661dbf2f761791435fae1f0cb258321c4da1
aspeer refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 2403f97028d82f528ac5ae1593864154f63b7e8f872492614666e7a92d50dab6

tenecvad has very kindly given up his refund for now so this was passed to TheOrri


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Sorry.

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I, aspeer, broke my own bitcoin rules and did a non escrowed payment for AsicMiner share from KRUNIAC and was scammed 2.1 BTC. Transaction ID: 5dc3bd83575af28839cee615a6659b01b7f5c63c18a529191480656e6f742022

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damn windows linefeeds...

I really made that typo. Wow.

Yeah, enough for today.

I'm backing out of this argument. You win. You're absolutely right, and I'll get prison time and sued, etc. Blahblahblah.

I'll be back in ~6 hours. Sleep time.

Nope.

I wasn't scammed, idiot.

But that would definitely be my advice to those that were.  It only takes one to file, the others can be joined.  50BTC, or $5,000, that's more than enough for no recovery, no fee debt collectors.

Wrong. Once you personally are linked to this nick - and it looks like someone has your bank details already, presumably from another transaction - it's enough that your nick sent the ASICMiner share for bitcoin messages.  Again, unless you can prove otherwise.  Good luck with that.

Wrong.  Your nick requested payment to that address, payment was sent to that addess.  The End.

I think you mean "precedents" but I fail see the relevance.  Do you mean it's easier to obtain a judgment in the case of an ebay scam?

DO IT. STOP TALKING AND DO IT.


Orly?


I dunno. I mean, you have some copy and pasted proof. Some screenshots that could have easily been doctored. This all sounds sketch to me.


This isn't rocket science. The IP logs of this forum would have to undergo subpoena to prove that a given IP address sent a PM to anyone with any particular bitcoin address. Then it has to be proven that the bitcoin address was used by me (me as a person, not as an anonymous entity). Before all of this, my ISP gets hit with a subpoena so my ISP account information is released. I can promise you that the information gained from that subpoena has nothing to do with me.




An eBay transaction has established precedences for security, payment, etc. This is not the case here.



I'm going to take a step back and admit this is a possibility. Given as a small claims court judgement is based on the personal purview of an arbiter, anything could happen.



You're not far off about this. It isn't worth my time or expense.



And fail, hence being a joke.


And fail, hence being a joke.


When you put them in the same line of reasoning as a theft report to the police, it seems that way. Debt collectors are annoying. I get more blood pressure flux just responding to this thread.


I agree. I might have been snappy with that portion of my response.


Prove it in court. End.



See, now if I prove this, I both set myself up for possible incrimination and harassment. I'll actually show some self-control (for a change) and let this one go.

Sure you are.

Yawn.

Seems to me there's already enough information here to connect you personally to this forum nick.  If that is not already established, I suspect it soon will be.

There's zero doubt you contracted to sell ASICMiner shares to various forum members in exchange for bitcoins.  Proving the transfer of bitcoins to the address you gave is the easy bit.

Like it or not, this is no different to e.g. an ebay transaction.  A small claims court, when faced with the above, would grant summary judgment unless you could prove it didn't happen (i.e. the onus would be on you to prove you lost control of your forum account).  I doubt you'd even turn up to defend yourself.

Debt collectors exist to collect on judgments such as these.  That's quite literally what they do.  Nobody is being a badass talking about debt collectors , it's just the next step should judgment be given (and particularly useful where the respondent refuses to pay).

As for reporting this to the police, my bad, "theft" was a poor choice of words.  This is fraud.

Unless you have a video or audio recording of me "admitting" to anything, you have -someone- typing -something- from -somewhere-. I'm not impressed.

You can keep logs of everything since the Lincoln Address - that's fine.

Essentially it works like this - when you can prove that it was ME (as in ME) that did something ILLEGAL (as in ILLEGAL without a Reasonable Doubt), then criminal charges can be pressed.

When you can prove that I legitimately OWE someone something, and can connect the dots of anonymous bitcoin transactions to me (as in ME), then a civil case could be won.



Now take both of those things, and blur the state jurisdictions. Also factor in that you don't even have an address for me. Also factor in that I'm moving within a week.

I mean, come on. Be serious. I know I'm an arrogant asshole, and I know that I've trolled you guys for no valid reason whatsoever, but really now. This is a joke. It's a terrible joke. Not the event - the threats. The childish threats and chest thumping. It's adults acting like wannabe legal badasses, when you're just private citizens like anyone else.

BCB - that "badass" you "warned" me about (we both know who) was actually a reasonable and down-to-earth guy, assuming he was being straight with me. There was nothing to "worry" about there. In fact, if I had the means, I'd soak up all of his coins @ 10% below spot to do him a favor. He's a good fella - not a braggart, not a badass - just an okay guy who has an interesting life.

But people like tencevad - getting all creepy and stalkerish. And for what? Because one too many people have escaped "justice"? Because he got called a name at some point? Because he's bored? Lewl.

You guys are worse than the Army. At least there I was dealing with legitimately intimidating legal standards. This is just laughable.


Now then. I'm going back to getting smashed and looking for apartments. I apologize if this post didn't make sense, and/or I used improper English.

Also watching The Master & The Kid. Yueh Hua - awesome.

Recover Schedule

address                                                  owner   amount       total scammed    %            Recovered      Refund

19GwvcFKTuZBwh4ABiRE1h9WFdyEeAoVui                 2.1                 41.78663866           4%               16.4          0.706445911

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14Pxsxxx7ReLQAcyQuFRJv8mrV55pkquhK   ryanAC                       1.8                41.78663866      5%            16.4          0.824186896

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126j8PPXY7UPPJHH2kfFNdam1bTT4LQw5D                           2.2                41.78663866           5%        16.4          0.863433891

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19UL1FnWRK1XiZLYS496WmecxdTWziL4aq                   2.2            41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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Blank. I am attributing this to Palantir13          Palantir13    2.29663866        41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.901361661

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1mKXkntCBzuLEvNoencLTqT8cVZDjrgVg           TheOrri    2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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18kv4zXhULnT1QBtWxmrsjAXXHRQJ9xQQK          finlof             2.2                41.78663866           5%               16.4          0.863433891

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1PAjxHWkvwYQoayvyXAa95LDx6hbEMwUd5   hwmax       2.45                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.961551378

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1EeWPKoqFqGpkUdJoREULvsNimNmgmcMGD                  2.2                41.78663866           5%            16.4          0.863433891

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1Gp2zKedWteyz7nU2fc4dv3CeXDjvC4kYK         dhenson       2.4                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.941927881

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1vvvspdwBUqDZ2T5zVcoKbXGaTrk2uttd            wo0x           2.35                41.78663866           6%               16.4          0.922304383

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                                                           Design Dream  17.39                41.78663866           42%       16.4         6.825052437

                                                                                                  41.78663866          100%                         

Palantir13 refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f568f265a10de0c4e2b0c10c0388f96d16622e4e93148f8f7b65c2252bfd3ad6
ryanAC refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 89ce197077de6b4cdd94957775e5c1da28bd0a585307fdcaecfc8091ee089231
designdream refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 61c9f966f118b81beb29a461a874082f9e1cac04739a8796e157146933b496de
wo0x refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 491e241cfcb8d564ba179bc69e77053e3b7aa5842770453cb4aca730f5f14586
dhenson refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 4fbb26cbe7ced9c50157714a900c38fdb7c514f5a453d2503db592b85c5fde3d
TheOrri refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 9508f058aa9292eb6e418744dc893fa23a2bb94cb097ddf7061929d4ae512386
finlof refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: 76308081a97400985ce42fcdaff6360cdeb6ce6dac9da9e77e16e733f313146b
hwmax refunded -> Bitcoins sent! TXID: f204086ef7525679336fd271395e661dbf2f761791435fae1f0cb258321c4da1

tenecvad has very kindly given up his refund for now so this was passed to TheOrri


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Kruniac,


Don't forget while high or drunk (or both) you have admitted multiple times in chat logs and pm and irc that you committed these frauds.

The internet doesn't forget.

Use the force for good Luke.