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Real Madrid is not a team that has any lack of funds to improve neither, they could get the best coach and pay them handsomely and get new players and all that, they are capable of paying the most money compared to any other team in the whole world. I don't really know where all that money comes from honestly but they have been known to pay a lot of money for people.

However, seeing how Ronaldo is still playing amazingly for Juventus I tend to think someone with Ronaldo's condition maybe could have been kept for a little longer, even until retirement, I was one of the people who said they got rid of Ronaldo's contract at the right time both not having to pay him but also getting money in return which could be used for younger good players but I have seen them do nothing major so far. Zidane is missed in Real Madrid more than Ronaldo I assume.

Real Madrid president made the grave error of losing Ronaldo and Zidane in one go, then he even didn't bother getting Hazard or Neymar to help the new coach settle in. Real Madrid should have dumped Bale and Benzema and retained Ronaldo and Zidane, Bale is struggling due to his injuries, and Benzema is no longer feared anymore.

I expect them to add one or two players in January and spend heavily in the summer transfer market either Hazard or Neymar one of them is coming I'm preety confident on it.
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Real Madrid is not a team that has any lack of funds to improve neither, they could get the best coach and pay them handsomely and get new players and all that, they are capable of paying the most money compared to any other team in the whole world. I don't really know where all that money comes from honestly but they have been known to pay a lot of money for people.

However, seeing how Ronaldo is still playing amazingly for Juventus I tend to think someone with Ronaldo's condition maybe could have been kept for a little longer, even until retirement, I was one of the people who said they got rid of Ronaldo's contract at the right time both not having to pay him but also getting money in return which could be used for younger good players but I have seen them do nothing major so far. Zidane is missed in Real Madrid more than Ronaldo I assume.
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Seriously they haven't realized the team was doing so bad until now ? At least el Classico has that type of importance on peoples minds, they make things happen a lot faster. 5-1 is not a score to joke about, that is even without Messi but does this put any shadow on Messi's input on the team? We saw that without Ronaldo the team crumbles into nothingness and without Messi Barcelona is still Barcelona, do we start to think Ronaldo was better all along but Messi just played on the better team ?

I honestly don't think so because real Madrid at its current state is different from the time Ronaldo played and also the management is doing horrible (obvious from firing) which means real Madrid is much worse than how it was for the past 3 years even if Ronaldo was here.
The El Classico game this time is really not interesting to watch, Real Madrid like not passionate about making a match, they lost badly to Barcelona who played without Messi. Real Madrid must move quickly to find capable coaches if they don't want to fail this season.
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This season La Liga will belong to Barcelona, to Copa del Rey, Athletico madrid, sevila and Bilbao have the opportunity to compete with Barcelona. I don't know whether Madrid can improve its performance or it will sink. there is still a chance in January to improve the team by making a purchase.
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Seriously they haven't realized the team was doing so bad until now ? At least el Classico has that type of importance on peoples minds, they make things happen a lot faster. 5-1 is not a score to joke about, that is even without Messi but does this put any shadow on Messi's input on the team? We saw that without Ronaldo the team crumbles into nothingness and without Messi Barcelona is still Barcelona, do we start to think Ronaldo was better all along but Messi just played on the better team ?

I honestly don't think so because real Madrid at its current state is different from the time Ronaldo played and also the management is doing horrible (obvious from firing) which means real Madrid is much worse than how it was for the past 3 years even if Ronaldo was here.
barcelona without messi still has great players at expensive prices like coutinho, there is also suarez who is still sharp and rakitic who is still stable. for madrid? even bale did not show good progress after expensive purchases. since 2015, Bale did not contribute fully to Madrid's performance. Benzema has also lost its sharpness. then only Ronaldo was able to lift the team's performance thanks to the stability of its performance. arguably Madrid only have a few players who are still stable, while Barcelona has many players whose performance is still stable beyond the figure of Messi. Even if Messi leaves, Barcelona keeps playing consistently and always makes the right purchases in the transfer market. Madrid is more passive in the transfer market and it seems that the loss of Ronaldo will last a long time.
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Espanyol does have a chance to get into the top 4 spots on the table in the Spanish La Liga league this season but the chances of achieving that is just extremely low, Espanyol will be taking on Athletic Bilbao today but this might be a tough match as Athletic Bilbao have managed to draw 7 games out of 10 matches played, so I believe the players of Espanyol would have to put in a lot of effort if they want to claim a victory against Athletic Bilbao.
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With real Madrid winning their recent games I think they might get on the rise. Coaching changes plus games and wins combined to a new fresh look for Madrid team if you ask me. Still won't be enough to get the championship but I am pretty sure they have what it takes to finish the league at top 3 right now.

I know finishing top 3 doesn't seem like an accomplishment to many people here when it is about real Madrid but they were literally losing their games to a point where they were closer to regulation side than champions. That is why I think it is a great improvement for a team to improve from that level to top 3 even if it is real Madrid we are talking about. Working towards a goal chipping away slowly is still a great way to get better, no one needs to get better over night.
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Barca reached difficult win against Rayo Vallecano 3:2, despite that they were trailing 1:2 at 87 minute. And honestly, it's not deserved win, Barca allowed to Rayo to play their typical open football, but luckily Barca have ter Stegen who made several amazing saves again.
And it's not first time when Barca struggled against bottom table team - they previously lost to Leganes, played 1:1 with Athletic and Valencia, when they beat top teams like Real or Sevilla relatively easy. Lack of motivation or something else.
And I can't understand why Barca bought Malcom - they don't allow him to play even against weak teams. One Spanish journalist said that Valverde didn't needed him and he was bought only as revenge to Roma, but I don't want to believe in such conspiracy theories...
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What do you guys (being La Liga fans) think of Mourinho's prospects of going back and manage Real next season? 

And lol at Roberto Martinez being considered.  I'm wondering how he got this far from Wigan to Everton to Belgium...  He prolly has a good agent.

i think very dificult mourinho back to real
because murinho not doing well in Manchester United
if back i think not mourinho but real want zinedine zidane can back
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I am not too sure if Mourinho wants it though. I know people at that type of position loves a challenge but Mourinho is a manager who had great times there already, he is doing great in Manchester united right now which is basically the best job anyone can ever have, united kept sir Alex Ferguson for over 20 years at the club and if Mourinho wants to stay and tries hard than he has a chance to have one team for the rest of his life. Why would anyone want to put that in risk and go to a real Madrid team that is already 7 points behind Barcelona ? I think it would be career suicide for him. I know real Madrid would love to have him, hell there are very very few teams in the whooole world who wouldn't want Mourinho right now but it still doesn't make sense for Mourinho's eyes.
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What do you guys (being La Liga fans) think of Mourinho's prospects of going back and manage Real next season? 

And lol at Roberto Martinez being considered.  I'm wondering how he got this far from Wigan to Everton to Belgium...  He prolly has a good agent.

I would say there's a possibility it might just happen Real Madrid President loves Mourinho, Hazard wishes to play with Mourinho and he wishes to play for Real Madrid, if Real Madrid sign Conte Hazard will never sign for them. Roberto is a decent chap, but I don't think he has what it takes to manage a club like Real Madrid.

^  I don't think his tactics are outdated.  It's just his approach to the beautiful game is more pragmatic.  I mean he won the EL, the League Cup and finished with the highest points since SAF left.

And yeah...  I didn't consider Martinez doing well at the World Cup.  But I don't think it's enough to get him the Real gig.

This is exactly what Real Madrid want they want a guy who's beaten Barcelona with his approach, now their CL love is over and they want to win the La Liga title and they know Mourinho can deliver it.
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What do you guys (being La Liga fans) think of Mourinho's prospects of going back and manage Real next season? 
Not gonna happen. The last thing the club needs is Mou dividing the locker room like he did last time with Casillas & co.

And lol at Roberto Martinez being considered.  I'm wondering how he got this far from Wigan to Everton to Belgium...  He prolly has a good agent.
I mean, he's a decent manager, right? Look what he did with Belgium. But the fact that the rumours have both Conte and Martinez as (possibly) the next RM manager, shows that the club, specifically, Florentino and friends, don't know really know exactly what they want as Conte and Martinez have completely different styles.
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Real Madrid finally had the tune up game they needed. In order to make the players feel better about themselves real Madrid needs to win couple games in a row, if you make real Madrid play 5 games in a row and make the first game something easy like this and gradually face them with better and better teams than you will have a real Madrid that can fight with anyone and still come out top, that is the power of tune up games, it changes the emotions of the players and makes them realize they can beat anyone. However same happened with Madrid when they lost too many in a row, they somehow started to think they do not posses the bravado to win in any game anymore and lost each others chemistry.

You have to make them believe they can win again, it is obvious that the team is having a psychological issue and not talent, team is talented enough to win over almost anyone.
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^  I don't think his tactics are outdated.  It's just his approach to the beautiful game is more pragmatic.  I mean he won the EL, the League Cup and finished with the highest points since SAF left.

And yeah...  I didn't consider Martinez doing well at the World Cup.  But I don't think it's enough to get him the Real gig.
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What do you guys (being La Liga fans) think of Mourinho's prospects of going back and manage Real next season? 

And lol at Roberto Martinez being considered.  I'm wondering how he got this far from Wigan to Everton to Belgium...  He prolly has a good agent.
I don't believe that Mou can return to Madrid. In my opinion his best times already in past, his tactics are outdated a bit and I don't think that he would be a good option for Real Madrid.
Well, first thing which came to my head when we talk about Martinez - Tottenham 9:1 Wigna result, I will never forget it Cheesy. He really went far in his career. But I don't think it's strange that his name considered as one of options, especially after good World Cup with Belgian Red Devils.
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What do you guys (being La Liga fans) think of Mourinho's prospects of going back and manage Real next season? 

And lol at Roberto Martinez being considered.  I'm wondering how he got this far from Wigan to Everton to Belgium...  He prolly has a good agent.
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About Conte, some people say that the board of directors and Florentino Perez don't want to sign Conte because of how Sergio Ramos, captain of the team, reacted to the rumours about Conte being the next manager (Ramos said something along the lines of: "you don't impose respect, you have to earn it", when refering to Conte as a manager).

Some other people are saying that the club doesn't want Conte because it'll stop the signing of Hazard, Real Madrid's primary target for the next transfer window (let's not forget that Hazard and Conte don't get along at all).

For now, I don't care about rumours, I just want to see what Solari can do with the team. We better win tomorrow against a low-tier team like Melilla in the league cup, or else there'll be blood on the streets.
Yeah, I read news that Conte may not become new manager of Real Madrid. It will be really interesting to watch what Solari can do, it will be difficult job for him as he almost don't have experience. But anyway, despite terrible recent results, this seasons are still not ruined for Real - it's still early part of season and Real are just 7 points behind Barca and they are close to the next round of UCL.
Now I see that Pochettino is one of the main candidates to become new manager. But I'm not sure that he will leave Tottenham - he just signed new 5 year contract. There are also names of Roberto Martinez and Guti mentioned. And offcourse, Wenger is ready to take this job! (joke)
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https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/10/comunicado-oficial-7
It's official - Julen Lopetegui isn't Real Madrid manager anymore. Santiago Solari (reserve team coach) will replace him temporarry. It seems that Real still didn't reached agreement with Conte. There was some speculations in press that he want longer contract, he don't agree to sign contract just till the end of this season.
About Conte, some people say that the board of directors and Florentino Perez don't want to sign Conte because of how Sergio Ramos, captain of the team, reacted to the rumours about Conte being the next manager (Ramos said something along the lines of: "you don't impose respect, you have to earn it", when refering to Conte as a manager).

Some other people are saying that the club doesn't want Conte because it'll stop the signing of Hazard, Real Madrid's primary target for the next transfer window (let's not forget that Hazard and Conte don't get along at all).

For now, I don't care about rumours, I just want to see what Solari can do with the team. We better win tomorrow against a low-tier team like Melilla in the league cup, or else there'll be blood on the streets.
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Seriously they haven't realized the team was doing so bad until now ? At least el Classico has that type of importance on peoples minds, they make things happen a lot faster. 5-1 is not a score to joke about, that is even without Messi but does this put any shadow on Messi's input on the team? We saw that without Ronaldo the team crumbles into nothingness and without Messi Barcelona is still Barcelona, do we start to think Ronaldo was better all along but Messi just played on the better team ?

I honestly don't think so because real Madrid at its current state is different from the time Ronaldo played and also the management is doing horrible (obvious from firing) which means real Madrid is much worse than how it was for the past 3 years even if Ronaldo was here.
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https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/10/comunicado-oficial-7
It's official - Julen Lopetegui isn't Real Madrid manager anymore. Santiago Solari (reserve team coach) will replace him temporarry. It seems that Real still didn't reached agreement with Conte. There was some speculations in press that he want longer contract, he don't agree to sign contract just till the end of this season.

I feel bad for Julien he's lost two jobs in the space of 5 months now, and I feel the blame lies on Real Madrid players and board directors. If you see none of the stars of Real Madrid performed well, then they didn't even bother replacing Ronaldo which I felt was a very big mistake and eventually the head coach paid the price. I'm not sure whether Conte is the right man, as we have seen he doesn't deal good with egos and the boardroom. REAL Madrid are eyeing Poch, but I wonder will he give up the project at Tottenham which he has painstakingly built, there's also rumor their care taker coach may last till the season ends it'll interesting to see how it goes from now ahead.
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