La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 2927.

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Quote from: babo on January 04, 2023, 08:12:47 AM

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that's right, they just have to play (well) and move on
if they continue with this growth rate next year they will give Real Madrid a hard time
It's not difficult to understand, I don't understand why there are fans who want everything right away
it does not work like this

Barcelona is trying to perform well by winning every game, at certain moments, they can slip up unexpectedly. Since the presence of Xavi Barcelona has experienced an increase in performance, now Barcelona is again reckoned with after being able to provide competition to Real Madrid. Xavi still needs to improve Barcelona's quality so they can compete in the Local League and Europa League, titles are certainly their target this season after going through last season without a single title being won.

In La Liga his performance has reached expectations, while in the Europa League he still needs proof, especially since the opponents he will face next are not easy to beat. Manchester United is in a positive trend, Xavi needs to mix up the Barcelona squad to appear more dominant with ball possession which can create many opportunities to win.

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Quote from: babo on January 04, 2023, 08:12:47 AM

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Quote from: babo on January 04, 2023, 04:14:37 AM

and things went very badly, but it's not just thanks to Xavi
it is also thanks to the company that understood that it was time to put their hands on the wallet and therefore they bought
clearly they have to run in at least a couple of seasons, you can't expect magic to happen in one season

Exactly, without the support of a company that has strong funds, Barcelona will forever have difficulty achieving its goals. Like other teams with weak finances, they cannot compete for the title but they only keep themselves in the competition and make profits through sales and broadcast rights.
But as a big team, of course Barcelona will be able to attract investors to pour out a lot of funds there. Most recently, Spotify is their sponsor for the next few years and maybe Barcelona will hook up more sponsors if in each different season they are successful enough to compete at the top of the standings. I know, things are never easy and Xavi isn't magically changing Barcelona's form any time soon.

that's right, they just have to play (well) and move on
if they continue with this growth rate next year they will give Real Madrid a hard time
It's not difficult to understand, I don't understand why there are fans who want everything right away
it does not work like this

Exactly. The situation was not created overnight. And the situation is also not going to be fixed overnight. That is something people are trying to understand. They are thinking just because Barcelona got a new coach and they also have some players who cost Barcelona a lot of money, Barcelona should be able to perform well.

But that is not the case. It took a long time to reach this position, and it will take care of time to get fixed as well. If everything could be done overnight, everyone could have walked around with six-pack abs. And obviously there, to defeat the purpose of having to earn something.

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Quote from: bekti3 on January 04, 2023, 09:48:12 AM

Villarreal have been one of the real dark horses for the last few seasons although it is true that at the moment when they are not around Emery has struggled a bit but they are still opponents to watch out for.
Maybe Madrid's advantage in this case is that Villarreal is not as strong as it used to be under Emery and of course this is profitable for them but looking at their current match record, of course this is not bad and I think this can trouble Madrid.

Even when you called that villareal as darkhorse and it doesn't matter a lot in front of real madrid. Real madrid has been slowly going back again to the real form. It seems like that the chance that owned by villareal to win again real madrid is quite small. Villareal itself was winning against valencia. Villareal has a mission to win against real madrid and secure the full points from real madrid. that will make real madrid unable to take the first position from barceona but the problem is real madrid is very strong right now win benzema as the real striker of real madrid. that will make villareal may feel insecure caused by that.

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Quote from: Raflesia on January 04, 2023, 10:10:13 AM

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I have the same opinion as you, I think Real Madrid will get full points against Villareal later while Barcelona are still not too sure about getting full points in the match against Atletico Madrid because I think this is a pretty difficult match of course for Barcelona, to be honest I prefer to bet on the real madrid vs villareal match than atletico madrid vs barcelona

The chance is still very big for Real Madrid, but they have to be wary of the movements of some Villarreal players who are sometimes surprising in several sectors such as the midfield with their good passes.
Villarreal's 2 lucky wins are actually quite good and this can be a reference that Madrid must be able to be stable when attacking and defending because I think this is an important thing for them to do.

yes, of course Real Madrid also doesn't want to lose points and let Barcelona be on top of the standings if they manage to beat Atletico Madrid, let alone let Villareal bring full points in the match later, so I think Benzema et al will bring full points in the match against Villareal, of course Carlo Ancelotti will surprise which is interesting to fight against villareal

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 04, 2023, 06:52:39 AM

I have the same opinion as you, I think Real Madrid will get full points against Villareal later while Barcelona are still not too sure about getting full points in the match against Atletico Madrid because I think this is a pretty difficult match of course for Barcelona, to be honest I prefer to bet on the real madrid vs villareal match than atletico madrid vs barcelona

The chance is still very big for Real Madrid, but they have to be wary of the movements of some Villarreal players who are sometimes surprising in several sectors such as the midfield with their good passes.
Villarreal's 2 lucky wins are actually quite good and this can be a reference that Madrid must be able to be stable when attacking and defending because I think this is an important thing for them to do.

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Quote from: naira on January 04, 2023, 08:06:36 AM

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I have the same opinion as you, I think Real Madrid will get full points against Villareal later while Barcelona are still not too sure about getting full points in the match against Atletico Madrid because I think this is a pretty difficult match of course for Barcelona, to be honest I prefer to bet on the real madrid vs villareal match than atletico madrid vs barcelona

Real Madrid certainly benefited because their opponents were not as tough as those faced by Barcelona. Villarreal is a strong team but when compared to Atletico Madrid performance it's quite a bit different. With the same points, it is possible that Real Madrid will occupy the first position again.

Uniquely, Real Madrid always moves little by little but with a definite purpose. Reaching the top of the league proves that what Ancelotti says is true. They don't need a lot of additional players, because one or two new players if they are in Ancelotti's hands will be scary.

Villarreal have been one of the real dark horses for the last few seasons although it is true that at the moment when they are not around Emery has struggled a bit but they are still opponents to watch out for.
Maybe Madrid's advantage in this case is that Villarreal is not as strong as it used to be under Emery and of course this is profitable for them but looking at their current match record, of course this is not bad and I think this can trouble Madrid.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on January 04, 2023, 04:36:03 AM

Quote from: babo on January 04, 2023, 04:14:37 AM

and things went very badly, but it's not just thanks to Xavi
it is also thanks to the company that understood that it was time to put their hands on the wallet and therefore they bought

clearly they have to run in at least a couple of seasons, you can't expect magic to happen in one season

Exactly, without the support of a company that has strong funds, Barcelona will forever have difficulty achieving its goals. Like other teams with weak finances, they cannot compete for the title but they only keep themselves in the competition and make profits through sales and broadcast rights.

But as a big team, of course Barcelona will be able to attract investors to pour out a lot of funds there. Most recently, Spotify is their sponsor for the next few years and maybe Barcelona will hook up more sponsors if in each different season they are successful enough to compete at the top of the standings. I know, things are never easy and Xavi isn't magically changing Barcelona's form any time soon.

that's right, they just have to play (well) and move on
if they continue with this growth rate next year they will give Real Madrid a hard time
It's not difficult to understand, I don't understand why there are fans who want everything right away
it does not work like this

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 04, 2023, 06:52:39 AM

I have the same opinion as you, I think Real Madrid will get full points against Villareal later while Barcelona are still not too sure about getting full points in the match against Atletico Madrid because I think this is a pretty difficult match of course for Barcelona, to be honest I prefer to bet on the real madrid vs villareal match than atletico madrid vs barcelona

Real Madrid certainly benefited because their opponents were not as tough as those faced by Barcelona. Villarreal is a strong team but when compared to Atletico Madrid performance it's quite a bit different. With the same points, it is possible that Real Madrid will occupy the first position again.

Uniquely, Real Madrid always moves little by little but with a definite purpose. Reaching the top of the league proves that what Ancelotti says is true. They don't need a lot of additional players, because one or two new players if they are in Ancelotti's hands will be scary.

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Quote from: rendravolt on January 04, 2023, 07:48:05 AM

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Last match Sevilla against Celta and while i thought they can able to bounce back from this match but they were displayed poor performance and i have to say nothing change about Sevilla performance that they are still cannot performing well and hard to win even i don't know why seems Sevilla players looks very easy to gets red cards that during this season their players has gets 6 red cards and this also one of main factors why Sevilla very hard to gets the winning results and next opponent from them is Getafe and if we look at the recent meetings records from both of teams indeed Sevilla is the favourite but i highly doubt they can win the match even possibly Getafe who possibly can beat them

Sevilla, when they played against Celta Vigo, both of them only shared the same number 1 and that didn't change Sevilla to get away from the relegation zone. Of course, if Sevilla continues to show poor performance, it is not impossible that until the end of the season they will be knocked out of La Liga. But I don't want to see Sevilla end up like that. Against Getafe, I hope there will be a change for Sevilla and I can secure a win so that I can move up to 15th in the standings.

Seeing what is happening with Sevilla at the moment, to be honest I didn't expect it at all after they performed well last season. But problems came to Sevilla suddenly, putting them in the relegation zone now. Game to game, they don't show that they have improved and even tend to decrease with the minor results they continue to achieve.
In the match against Getafe later, I think it will be difficult for them to get points, even though Getafe is not a very strong team, they are still better than Sevilla at the moment.

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Quote from: bering on January 03, 2023, 09:40:29 AM

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 02, 2023, 05:52:45 PM

Sevilla's next game is going to be against Getafe home. This must be their time to win a game finally. Getafe's condition in the standings might seem better maybe but Sevilla have a really strong psychological advantage against them at the same time. They won their last 6 head-to-head games for example. This would be a big motivation for them to concentrate more.

I don't think of betting on them still though as long as I make safe bets. However I still hope that they will put an end to this winless streak. They need to get positive results to get out of the relegation zone.

It's a shame that a team as good as Sevilla have to be in the relegation zone for a while this season. Against Getafe it looks like it will be a challenge for Sevilla, if they can't win it will definitely get worse. Coach Jorge Sampaoli must be able to put pressure on his players to play well in the match later, especially if only relying on miracles it seems impossible for Sevilla to get away from the relegation zone this season.

Last match Sevilla against Celta and while i thought they can able to bounce back from this match but they were displayed poor performance and i have to say nothing change about Sevilla performance that they are still cannot performing well and hard to win even i don't know why seems Sevilla players looks very easy to gets red cards that during this season their players has gets 6 red cards and this also one of main factors why Sevilla very hard to gets the winning results and next opponent from them is Getafe and if we look at the recent meetings records from both of teams indeed Sevilla is the favourite but i highly doubt they can win the match even possibly Getafe who possibly can beat them

Sevilla, when they played against Celta Vigo, both of them only shared the same number 1 and that didn't change Sevilla to get away from the relegation zone. Of course, if Sevilla continues to show poor performance, it is not impossible that until the end of the season they will be knocked out of La Liga. But I don't want to see Sevilla end up like that. Against Getafe, I hope there will be a change for Sevilla and I can secure a win so that I can move up to 15th in the standings.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on January 04, 2023, 04:39:23 AM

Money can't buy club success, the quality players brought in don't guarantee they can bring the club to glory at the end of the season. Barcelona fans need to be patient, their demands are being sought by Xavi by increasing the quality of the team in every match. So far Xavi has worked hard to bring Barcelona back to success, signs of Barcelona's revival are starting to appear, it takes patience to achieve all of that.

Money can change a team very much, there are many examples of this, these are PSG, City, etc. Barcelona don't have any money, they are still heavily in debt and this can also affect the team and the players. So big money is not about Barcelona, although they did a good job of keeping players in the off-season, but this may change if the financial situation does not change for the better at the club.

Money will not guarantee that success will come instantaneously for a team, but it is undeniable that money will provide easy access for any team to move very quickly in change and improvement. If you look at the teams you mentioned, they are teams that may be relatively new like Manchester City, but with good finances and they can be used very well, that will make them one of the strongest teams and worth considering.

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Quote from: bering on January 04, 2023, 01:56:28 AM

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Have excited and super big match at matchday 16 between Atletico Madrid vs Barcelona held on January 9, I think most interested match looking on how consistency from Barcelona performance against bigger team. Current match, Barcelona failed get three points after held draw by Espanyol and missing points against Atletico Madrid have bad impact with their current position standing on the top if other match Real Madrid defeat Villareal.

Current standing position between Barcelona and Real Madrid have the same points and I don't think Barcelona won't loss their opportunity keep in tittle race for 1st standing position with Real Madrid,

Villareal vs Real Madrid
Atletico Madrid vs Barcelona

Villarreal and Atletico Madrid could be tough opponents for Real Madrid and Barcelona especially for Barcelona that after only can able to get 1 point from Espanyol then the winning result is mandatory for them but although Atletico not strong anymore such as several seasons ago i think this team possibly can makes Barcelona to slipped again and latest meetings records from these teams has proven Atletico is the team who hard to beat by Barcelona and for Atletico vs Barcelona i will more prefer to predict draw result instead of Barcelona win

For Villarreal vs Real Madrid and indeed i have to say Real Madrid still hasn't reach to their top performance and last match against Valladolid i can see Madrid have to hard struggle to earn 3 points even if Valladolid player didn't get red card probably Madrid will be failed to win and i am sure Ancelotti has evaluated the weaknesses from previous match so Madrid will be more ready to faced this match moreover their striker Benzema was on fire after successfully scoring 2 goals last week and for this match i think Real Madrid will win the match

I have the same opinion as you, I think Real Madrid will get full points against Villareal later while Barcelona are still not too sure about getting full points in the match against Atletico Madrid because I think this is a pretty difficult match of course for Barcelona, to be honest I prefer to bet on the real madrid vs villareal match than atletico madrid vs barcelona

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 03, 2023, 11:54:26 PM

I think we have to be subjective in assessing Xavi Hernandez, indeed he is not the best coach who has coached Barcelona, but we also cannot say that he is the worst coach at Barcelona. Because since his arrival at Camp Nou he has brought big changes to the club even though he has not recorded any achievements. In his first season, he had a big task because he accepted the club from the previous coach in circumstances that could not be said to be good at all. But at the end of the season he was able to finish in runner-up position. Maybe one of the reasons why he is said to be a bad coach is because he couldn't get Barcelona past the group stage.
There has been a change, that's the point I want to say, even though it hasn't brought the trophy that many people expect.

I agree with you, Xavi still hasn't got the experience he needs to build a great team as he didn't coach European teams before Barcelona, his problem is that the league he stayed in for years isn't that strong, so the difference is clear. When Xavi started coaching Barcelona, some people compared him with Zidane at Real Madrid which was totally wrong comparison because Zidane had worked for years as Ancelotti assistant before he became the coach. However, Barcelona are trying to build a new young team so they have to be patient with both the coach and players.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on January 04, 2023, 04:39:23 AM

Money can't buy club success, the quality players brought in don't guarantee they can bring the club to glory at the end of the season. Barcelona fans need to be patient, their demands are being sought by Xavi by increasing the quality of the team in every match. So far Xavi has worked hard to bring Barcelona back to success, signs of Barcelona's revival are starting to appear, it takes patience to achieve all of that.

Money can change a team very much, there are many examples of this, these are PSG, City, etc. Barcelona don't have any money, they are still heavily in debt and this can also affect the team and the players. So big money is not about Barcelona, although they did a good job of keeping players in the off-season, but this may change if the financial situation does not change for the better at the club.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on January 03, 2023, 11:54:26 PM

I think we have to be subjective in assessing Xavi Hernandez, indeed he is not the best coach who has coached Barcelona, but we also cannot say that he is the worst coach at Barcelona. Because since his arrival at Camp Nou he has brought big changes to the club even though he has not recorded any achievements. In his first season, he had a big task because he accepted the club from the previous coach in circumstances that could not be said to be good at all. But at the end of the season he was able to finish in runner-up position. Maybe one of the reasons why he is said to be a bad coach is because he couldn't get Barcelona past the group stage.
There has been a change, that's the point I want to say, even though it hasn't brought the trophy that many people expect.

It is too early for us to conclude now about Xavi's quality in training Barcelona. And Barcelona now in La Liga is also still in pretty good shape. and the proof is that Barcelona is still ranked 1st in the temporary standings. But indeed when talking about the last match against Espanyol. we see that Barcelona's performance is less than optimal. even some of Xavi's policies were also considered not good in that match. However, if we talk about all that Xavi has done for Barcelona, I think Xavi can still be considered a pretty good coach.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on January 03, 2023, 11:58:24 PM

Quote from: giammangiato on January 03, 2023, 01:11:45 PM

Exactly, I don't understand all this fury against Xavi
give him time, you can't expect him to take over a team that was in bad shape in one season and make it number one

for good things it takes time, time and patience
I think it can be done

I think we should be patient with Xavi too. We all remember how badly Barcelona was in the league before he came. I believe that success will come by itself after you show the necessary patience for Xavi. I understand Barcelona fans want the success they're used to, but it's not something that will happen right away. They'll have to persevere.

Money can't buy club success, the quality players brought in don't guarantee they can bring the club to glory at the end of the season. Barcelona fans need to be patient, their demands are being sought by Xavi by increasing the quality of the team in every match. So far Xavi has worked hard to bring Barcelona back to success, signs of Barcelona's revival are starting to appear, it takes patience to achieve all of that.

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Quote from: babo on January 04, 2023, 04:14:37 AM

and things went very badly, but it's not just thanks to Xavi
it is also thanks to the company that understood that it was time to put their hands on the wallet and therefore they bought

clearly they have to run in at least a couple of seasons, you can't expect magic to happen in one season

Exactly, without the support of a company that has strong funds, Barcelona will forever have difficulty achieving its goals. Like other teams with weak finances, they cannot compete for the title but they only keep themselves in the competition and make profits through sales and broadcast rights.

But as a big team, of course Barcelona will be able to attract investors to pour out a lot of funds there. Most recently, Spotify is their sponsor for the next few years and maybe Barcelona will hook up more sponsors if in each different season they are successful enough to compete at the top of the standings. I know, things are never easy and Xavi isn't magically changing Barcelona's form any time soon.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on January 04, 2023, 03:42:31 AM

Anyone complaining about Xavi is ingrates because the club was nowhere to be found when the guy took over it. The club's dependence on Messi caused a lot of mess for them but Xavi was still able to turn things around. Being number one on the table should mean a lot, and they are with the same performance as their arch-rival Real Madrid, which means they are still doing well. Although they need to be careful now, any mistake or unseriousness could cost them a lot.

IMO, no one is complaining about Xavi's coaching. as football fans, it's normal when we are a little disappointed with the coach when he makes several blunders over the strategy he implements. especially when he didn't make many changes to his squad, I mean in this case when Barcelona was doing their match in the Champions League.

When Xavi Hernandez took over coaching from Ronald Koeman, he brought Barcelona in a better direction. unfortunately, when Xavi was given the opportunity to bring in newcomers, he was unable to bring Barcelona to what President Laporta had hoped for. in fact, Barcelona had to slip up in the Champions League group stage and that was a failure for Xavi with the new squad he had projected.

Next, Xavi still has the chance to win two trophies as he has emphasized on several occasions. however, his mission will be difficult to realize if he doesn't make many changes and if Barcelona fail to win any trophies this season. automatically, Xavi's career will end with Barcelona.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on January 03, 2023, 11:58:24 PM

I think we should be patient with Xavi too. We all remember how badly Barcelona was in the league before he came. I believe that success will come by itself after you show the necessary patience for Xavi. I understand Barcelona fans want the success they're used to, but it's not something that will happen right away. They'll have to persevere.

and things went very badly, but it's not just thanks to Xavi
it is also thanks to the company that understood that it was time to put their hands on the wallet and therefore they bought

clearly they have to run in at least a couple of seasons, you can't expect magic to happen in one season

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Quote from: Silence Scream on January 03, 2023, 11:58:24 PM

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Quote from: longyenthanh on January 03, 2023, 11:55:47 AM

Xavi's coaching skills are as good as those of Barca coaches in the past. And Barca's rivalry with Real Madrid dates back to when Xavi himself was Barca's captain and player. So you can trust him. However, this is his first league and should give him more time at Barca. He must understand.

Exactly, I don't understand all this fury against Xavi
give him time, you can't expect him to take over a team that was in bad shape in one season and make it number one

for good things it takes time, time and patience
I think it can be done

I think we should be patient with Xavi too. We all remember how badly Barcelona was in the league before he came. I believe that success will come by itself after you show the necessary patience for Xavi. I understand Barcelona fans want the success they're used to, but it's not something that will happen right away. They'll have to persevere.

Anyone complaining about Xavi is ingrates because the club was nowhere to be found when the guy took over it. The club's dependence on Messi caused a lot of mess for them but Xavi was still able to turn things around. Being number one on the table should mean a lot, and they are with the same performance as their arch-rival Real Madrid, which means they are still doing well. Although they need to be careful now, any mistake or unseriousness could cost them a lot.

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