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The idea Barcelona had was that if they could get away with one more season of postponing the problems, they could just win the league, and maybe super copa and all that, and make some money, and hell maybe do fine at UCL would also be nice, if you do that few times in a row, there is almost no money problems left because of how much they would make, look at Xavi time, he won once, and they had so much space opened up, do that two more times in a row and suddenly you are fine. But they did not do that, and that's I guess is their problem.

I hope that they can do better in the future, but the results are not coming, that's why it looks like it is not fixed yet, but I am sure it will be fixed eventually, maybe not now, but eventually.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!
I just hope they can defeat CELTA Vigo in this tournament because they seem to be out of it this past few times they played. Often going behind in early minutes of the game. As if the fact that they lost to Barcelona whom they claimed they could defeat when it came to a title chase wasn't enough, they had to suffer with a large number of goals, making it obvious for all to see how poor their defense is and if CELTA are any good, I think they too can exploit from this disadvantage.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!

I also think that Real will have additional motivation in this game, so I think that the best choice is to bet on Real with a handicap of -1. At the moment, bookmakers see this game like this:

1.35 - 5.8 - 9

If we talk purely "on paper", then Real should not have any problems, Celta is an unstable team, they have many defeats. The fact that they have a decent number of wins with a small number of draws suggests that they are unlikely to be able to withstand if things do not go "according to the favorable scenario".

Celta vigo have drawn only once in their last 10 games with real madrid and have always lost.
Now, given this possible lineup for Real and the fact that the team wants to win this game to win and regain morale, the chances of Real winning will increase several times.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!

Real Madrid will undoubtedly try everything in their power to win and go to the next round. If Real Madrid makes a mistake and loses this match, Ancelotti will be in serious difficulty and may lose his position as manager of the squad. And now you'll see that Ancelotti is changing his statistics and not putting all of his key players on the pitch at the same time; he'll try this tactic and see whether it works. He should have been better if he used this lineup against Barcelona. He should be starting with this defense in any match because they are all good. It's only that Lucas constantly gets into issues am not enjoying is ball he doesn't used to mark. The Super Cup that Barcelona win i blame lucas because he leave rafiha just spacing in the pitch and scoring nice goals, let just see how Ancelotti will defeat Celta Vigo tonight. Flick as do a nice job against Real Betis Barcelona really dominate the game since from the first half to the ending if they can continue like this they will still achieve more trophy and even the cope del rey they are the favorites of winning it, except Real Madrid as improve that we will think that they will achieve the trophy.

I am just as disappointed as you and others that Ancelotti did not use a better formation.
regarding the constant use of a defensive line or a permanent formation for the whole team, I must say that it may seem wise, but it must be borne in mind that the players must be given the opportunity to be in harmony with each other, and Ancelotti does this. on the other side, the constant use of a formation will tire key players and they will no longer be able to play at their best in critical games, and the bench players will also be discouraged by not being used and if they are given a chance, they may not perform well.
If Ancelotti had put aside these thoughts that he has had throughout the season in the game against Barcelona and used the best formation, the result would definitely have been different, but let's remember that other players also need to gain experience in these types of games.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!

I also think that Real will have additional motivation in this game, so I think that the best choice is to bet on Real with a handicap of -1. At the moment, bookmakers see this game like this:

1.35 - 5.8 - 9

If we talk purely "on paper", then Real should not have any problems, Celta is an unstable team, they have many defeats. The fact that they have a decent number of wins with a small number of draws suggests that they are unlikely to be able to withstand if things do not go "according to the favorable scenario".
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In my opinion, Barcelona periodically has problems that it must solve, we know the reasons, but most likely it can also be assumed that these are not the last problems that Barcelona has encountered. The most important thing is that they find solutions and move on, and winning the Super Cup final should also give them strength to move on. In La Liga, their situation has become more complicated and it needs to be corrected, this needs to be done while it is still possible, if Atletico and Real are allowed to increase the difference even more, then it will be impossible to correct this.

Barcelona are been encouraged always when they are playing against Real Madrid, so it’s not that shocking to see them prevail in the super cup final against them. Barcelona have been a team with an inconsistent record this season, they’re currently not in a consistent form in the La Liga now and needs to fix things up. Due to their poor performance in the La Liga, I also thought they won’t have a chance against Real Madrid in the final, but they shocked us more with their spectacular performance and win in that match. They should try and replicate same in the La Liga too.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!

Every game is important because for every win you get in any competition, it’ll add to your record and you’ll be able to boast of it in the future that you’ve won such a trophy before. The super cup final defeat really hit Real Madrid hard and I think they need to realise that getting back into the game in all competitions this season is very important for them. The Copa Del Rey is also an important competition in the La Liga and if they’re able to bounce through and win this trophy, it’ll be amongst their collection of trophies and achievements for this season. I can see a new lineup for the team, let’s see how they’re able to utilize this lineup to their advantage today.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.
It seems that Ancelotti is starting to realize his mistake in the match against Barcelona where placing Tchouameni as a defender was his biggest mistake because Tchouameni natural position is a midfielder, including Vazquez who is very slow in running. Now at least there are Asensio and Garcia considering that these two players are much more disciplined and can be relied on to guard the defense. Bellingham was withdrawn as a substitute and placing Ceballos in the starting eleven was not right, maybe it is true that Ancelotti is starting to lose his strategy. Almost in all matches Madrid game pattern is stagnant even though it is filled with great players.
Ancelotti experiments in concocting the starting XI usually always prioritize experienced players, so it is no surprise that Tchouameni is often plotted as a center-back when he lacks rotation options. We know that the move is intended to reduce the risk of defeat, although sometimes the results are disappointing. Asensio and Garcia are younger, when they are played in their natural positions, the results are likely to be better. The match against Celta Vigo was actually quite easy for Real Madrid to overcome, the difference in squad depth makes it easy to predict the final result. I expected Ancelotti to start Arda Guler in today match, but Ancelotti preferred Brahim Diaz and Dani Ceballos.
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Barcelona are not consistent in the La Liga and their nature of game cannot be considered to be great yet, they’ve really played well and maintained the first position for a while in the league before they began to fumble and fell down the table more, only if they can be that Barcelona they were at the start of the season now. One fascinating thing about them is that they keep being the best when they face their top rival Real Madrid and till now, they’re yet to triumph against them this season. Kudos to the win in the super cup finals, let them focus on making their game better in the La Liga.


I can't really identify what caused Barcelona decline in performance around the end of the year 2024 but I know for sure that " not resting of players" is also part of the cause...
You could easily tell, before the arrival of some injury players, whenever hansi Flick rests some key players , they usually have alot of problems which makes them lose some matches expecialy whenever that kid lamine isn't on field
Hence I did notice that during their decline, he has been testing alot of positions with different players to fix the issue they are facing and I did see a good improvement against Atletico Madrid, you can check the formation and the positions ...but overall they need to bounce back in laliga.. Flick did promise to bring the cups to camp nou let's see how he will be doing it
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!

Real Madrid will undoubtedly try everything in their power to win and go to the next round. If Real Madrid makes a mistake and loses this match, Ancelotti will be in serious difficulty and may lose his position as manager of the squad. And now you'll see that Ancelotti is changing his statistics and not putting all of his key players on the pitch at the same time; he'll try this tactic and see whether it works. He should have been better if he used this lineup against Barcelona. He should be starting with this defense in any match because they are all good. It's only that Lucas constantly gets into issues am not enjoying is ball he doesn't used to mark. The Super Cup that Barcelona win i blame lucas because he leave rafiha just spacing in the pitch and scoring nice goals, let just see how Ancelotti will defeat Celta Vigo tonight. Flick as do a nice job against Real Betis Barcelona really dominate the game since from the first half to the ending if they can continue like this they will still achieve more trophy and even the cope del rey they are the favorites of winning it, except Real Madrid as improve that we will think that they will achieve the trophy.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.
It seems that Ancelotti is starting to realize his mistake in the match against Barcelona where placing Tchouameni as a defender was his biggest mistake because Tchouameni natural position is a midfielder, including Vazquez who is very slow in running. Now at least there are Asensio and Garcia considering that these two players are much more disciplined and can be relied on to guard the defense. Bellingham was withdrawn as a substitute and placing Ceballos in the starting eleven was not right, maybe it is true that Ancelotti is starting to lose his strategy. Almost in all matches Madrid game pattern is stagnant even though it is filled with great players.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!
Of course this is a very important match, because this victory is important to continue building the players' confidence after the crushing defeat from Barcelona. The defeat also made several Real Madrid players receive harsh criticism from fans, especially the defenders.

However, I disagree if you say that the Copa Del Rey has never been a priority for Real Madrid, the fact is why they always fail to get a treble winner is because they always fail to get the Copa Del Rey trophy. In addition, if I'm not mistaken, Real Madrid has only won the Copa del Rey 3 times in the last 20 seasons. While in the Champions League, Real Madrid only needed 10 years to get 5 UCL trophies.

So in my opinion Real Madrid always prioritizes the Copa Del Rey every season, it's just that they are unlucky in this competition, you could say this tournament is harder to get than the UCL. Cheesy
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Financial problems have affected their ability to retain and recruit players at the moment, however, on the other hand, I salute the leadership of laporta and also the management of barcelona who currently continue to make every effort and solution to improve their financial condition, although indeed the improve only has a short-term impact so far, but even so, We have to admit that it seems that Barcelona performance in La Liga, Copa Del Rey, Super Cup and UCL is currently not too affected by these problems, because Hansi Flick has an extraordinary ability to build and bring  the team with have  a million problems in a positive path, but even so, of course we hope that Barcelona can immediately find a solution to overcome their problems permanently later.
I mean it's clear that the financial problems have a root cause which is the management, and the president of the team. It's clear that they never want to actually solve any of these issues and they just want to postpone it as much as they can.

Do you know what "selling seat" means, we are not talking about just selling seats in a normal game, I mean like literally rights to a seat, so if you sell that seat, then that person could sell it to anyone they want later on, we are talking about future income forever gone. That's just the latest example, they keep doing stuff like that they keep giving up on future income forever, just to save today. And we all can see how that is a terrible one, but the president do not want to have bad seasons under his presidential period, so he keeps doing this mistake.
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This season, Real Madrid and Barcelona has met on 3 several occasions and there main problem has always been the same thing, the defenders are lacking and there is no way they could have won that game. The forward was good that Mbape was so fast to make a good entry goal early in the match but fast forward, the defenders were not doing there job and there is absolutely no way you are going to win a game when your defenders are playing like sick people.

I want to believe Perez is seeing what is happening and not taking it emotionally, he was there to witness the match and they lost. It's time they change that mindset of  using a set of players for all the club activities. They get worn out and miss the important aspect of the team. Take a look at Carvahal for instance, that guy absence was felt in that match, Barcelona were just entering every corner they see and printing goals like it's their lucky day.

Mbappe runs very fast, but speed alone is not enough, Mbappe must improve his intelligence on the field, especially in finding the best position when he wants to receive a pass. Because several times we have been shown, when Mbappe, tried to rely on his speed when attacking, he was often caught offside. Real Madrid still needs to improve teamwork and chemistry between players on the field, so that they can become a strong and solid unit. This is something that I have not seen fully in Real Madrid.

and I agree with what you said, that Real Madrid must immediately deepen their squad, especially for the back line. Real Madrid currently lacks substitutes who are on par with their key players.
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whether it's revising the weaknesses of his team, exploring some of his players' performance, implementing alternative systems and also related to tactics and strategies.
You said something true that Hansi is currently fighting for and it is done because it is the coach's job to be responsible for bringing his team to a higher level. But by trying new strategies or rotating players randomly, I think it will also be too risky when Barcelona has to appear in a different competition. As we often see coaches using different strategies or player formations make the team lose and if this happens, it seems a little worrying. While Hansi actually only needs second-string players who have good quality to replace the main players and can get better results than having to change tactics or strategies.
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Real madrid have published their starting lineup for the upcoming match against Celta Vigo in the copa del rey.

real madrid starting XI: Lunin, Vazquez, Asensio, Rudiger, Fran Garcia, Modric, Tchouameni, Ceballos, Brahim, Vinicius, Mbappe.

celta vigo starting XI (TBC): Villar, Rodriguez, Starfelt, Alonso, Mingueza, Alvarez, Beltran, Illaix, Duran, Swedberg, Iglesias.

This is an important game for Real Madrid after the discouraging loss to Barcelona in the Supercup Final, so it’s not shocking to see Ancelotti deploying a very strong starting lineup even if the Copa del Rey is never a priority for the club. Time to bounce back!
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Ancelotti needs to find again the defense, with some injuries and some players not in top fit is having big troubles in that area of the team.

Maybe they need to buy one defender in this winter market until the window transfer is open. Im not so much worried about the team performances because we all know how Real Madrid push in the very end of the season winning all.
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In my opinion, Barcelona periodically has problems that it must solve, we know the reasons, but most likely it can also be assumed that these are not the last problems that Barcelona has encountered. The most important thing is that they find solutions and move on, and winning the Super Cup final should also give them strength to move on. In La Liga, their situation has become more complicated and it needs to be corrected, this needs to be done while it is still possible, if Atletico and Real are allowed to increase the difference even more, then it will be impossible to correct this.

Barcelona are not consistent in the La Liga and their nature of game cannot be considered to be great yet, they’ve really played well and maintained the first position for a while in the league before they began to fumble and fell down the table more, only if they can be that Barcelona they were at the start of the season now. One fascinating thing about them is that they keep being the best when they face their top rival Real Madrid and till now, they’re yet to triumph against them this season. Kudos to the win in the super cup finals, let them focus on making their game better in the La Liga.

And that is what Real Madrid is currently experiencing when everything is not going according to plan because of the storm of injuries that are hitting them right now. Florentino Ferez as the club president who holds full control should bring in one or two players if he doesn't want to buy. The loan option is also worth trying, the most important thing is that there are players who can cover their vulnerable sectors such as the defense line which until now Ancelotti has not been able to find the right solution due to the lack of players in that sector. In my opinion, this step must be taken by Madrid to maintain the opportunity to defend the La Liga title.

In some news, I saw that Ancelotti is ready to make changes to the formation of the team and he fields in some players to play at the same time, this was decided after their big loss to Barcelona in the Super Cup finals. They need to put themself back together and compete well for the league title, they’ve been playing poorly and it’s not so good for them and can make them lose the trophy thus season. Now that they’ve lost the super cup finals to Barcelona, I think they should do better in the La Liga to win the title this season.
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But we must remember that the club still has weaknesses in terms of management. a management that has caused the team's bad situation and in my opinion, no changes have been made in the management process to guarantee the club's stability in the future.

Arse you talking about the current management of Barcelona? The one that is fighting hard to get them out of the mess that the past administration put them in? At this point, nobody cares about knowing what is actually going on in that club so they just rely on the bs that the media is spreading.
It's funny that there was a time when big sports news outlets literally said Barcelona will go bankrupt in a couple of years and people actually believe things like that because they don't care to read and know how things are going. The worst that can happen to Barcelona is it gets sold to a billionaire from America or a billionaire family in Saudi just like the English teams are doing.

Now speaking of the management, they have fought hard to get Barcelona back to what it used to be financially. Now they can sign and register players with ease because they have gone back to 1:1 which means they can spend as much as they make which is what has been an issue for them since. Before they could only spend a quarter of whatever money they make which is the 1:4 rule.
There is nothing wrong with themanagement of Barcelona and I don't think any other people would have done a better job.
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I can't remember the last time I had got heartbroken after a defeat like I was last night after Barcelona defeated my darling club Real Madrid to win the 2025 Spanish Super Cup. My pains came in different ways as my club lost, I lost money to a betting company and another huge amount to my Barcelona friend and to make their whole matter worse for me, my friend mocked me all night.
Carlo Ancelotti have a squad that should have put that game to bed before halftime but failed to maximize the quality players at his disposal. Vinicius Jr was awful Bellingham couldn't make those defense splitting passes and at the end, the best team won.
Carlo Ancelotti must work on this team as a matter of urgency and improve their performance going forward
I understand how you feel, it's very difficult to accept this because from the beginning we were very optimistic and convinced that Real Madrid would be able to win the match and become champions. I realised that this was a very valuable lesson for me, that should never put too much hope in something, even if you believe in it, and also never put your money in one place just because of belief, because that's what i did. Putting all my earnings for 3 months in Real Madrid to win this match and look what happened, the end was very disappointing and painful.
Those who are Real Madrid fans should not be disappointed right now because Real Madrid still has enough opportunities and potential so we can still have full confidence in this team. Maybe from the beginning of the season we wanted to see a different Real Madrid this season because Real Madrid brought Mbappe to their club early in the season and thought that Mbappe would strengthen Real Madrid's attacking lineup. Although we haven't seen Mbappe's impressive performances so far, the French star is sure to do well for Real Madrid if given time. Real Madrid have lost two matches against Barcelona, it is very disappointing but they still have important matches ahead of them and they need to plan for them so that they can finish the season with a good result.
Real Madrid indeed lost 2 times in a row from Barcelona mostly with big scores which the latest is on Spanish SuperCopa final this maybe dissapointing because Real Madrid failed to gets their first trophy this year but but i think these loses it will have no effect on their performance in Laliga later because if you compared to between Real Madrid and Barcelona performance certainly Real Madrid is much better so i think Real Madrid fans shouldn't be worried too much because their position is still being an strong contender for the title

Rather than speaking about the loses Real Madrid from El Classico i think Real Madrid should be more concern to Atletico Madrid this because currently Atletico Madrid is much stronger than last season they even can occupy first place so i think for race title Atletico Madrid should't be underestimated again because they have potention can gets Laliga title this season and currently Atletico Madrid has run 15 winning streak in all competitions with the latest win is from Elche with final scores 4-0 so Barcelona and Real Madrid should be worried for this team
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Seems like Barcelona are finally back in form as they have shown that by winning matches and thrashing Real Madrid 5-2 in the just concluded Supercopa De Espana. Barcelona have really shown wiliness to go all out and get the desired win. Barcelona 3 vs Real Betis 0 with goals from Gavi and Kounde scoring two goals in the Copa Del Rey
Barcelona 3 vs Real Betis 0 HT
The final result is this:

Source: FC Barcelona vs Real Betis - Copa del Rey
Barcelona really likes the number 5 lately. They managed to win the Copa del Rey match against Real Betis also with 5 goals. The difference is, this time Real Betis only managed to score 1 goal.

Well, starting from Gavi's goal in the 3rd minute which Arly managed to destroy the mentality of Real Betis players, moreover with the next goal, and ending with a goal from Yamal which closed the match with 5 - 1. Barcelona is in their good form again this time, Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid must be more careful in La Liga.
Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid just needs to keep calm and win their matches against other teams. I'm sure Barcelona will still slip up against other teams in the league, my reason is, Barcelona started out well earlier in the season and even thrashed Real Madrid 4-0 in the Santiago, they were even about 11 points ahead of Real Madrid at some point in the first half of the season but slipped off the first spot and they now find themselves 5 points behind this same Real Madrid team they were 11 points ahead before. Barcelona's high line defense game is gradually been known by other La Liga teams and they will exploit that weakness.
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