La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4400.

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Quote from: snipie on May 30, 2021, 05:55:41 PM

Quote from: muratsink on May 30, 2021, 01:21:46 PM

I can't wake up when see Real Madrid social media announcement about give thank for Zidane because left Real Madrid this season, I was sad although Zidane not success give any trophy in this year for Madrid I think he was great coach for Madrid so far, success give La Liga trophy and third time for champion league was very awesome coach for Madrid.

Zidane is a legend in football World and in Real Madrid as a player and a coach. This season he wasn't lucky, he found the team struggling, succeeded to make it running very close to ATM but failed to bring a trophy home. Real Madrid problem isn't the coach, it is the current players, old ones in part but especially the guys that are useless and those who dropped badly in performance and fluctuating from a game to another. BTW we might see Zidane after few years in Madrid again, you never know, fans still appreciate him Wink

I would also not be surprised if Zidane's third coming to Real Madrid takes place Wink

I both agree and disagree with you that it's not about the coach. It's about Zidane himself, it's just clear that the coach is mentally tired of working at the club and his departure is more the initiative of the French specialist himself than the initiative of the club's management. By the way, Conte presented to the management of Real Madrid his concept and strategy for the development of the team, although it seems that the priority for Real Madrid is Mauricio Pochettino or in the absence of an agreement, the priority is Raul Gonzalez.

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Quote from: muratsink on May 30, 2021, 01:21:46 PM

I can't wake up when see Real Madrid social media announcement about give thank for Zidane because left Real Madrid this season, I was sad although Zidane not success give any trophy in this year for Madrid I think he was great coach for Madrid so far, success give La Liga trophy and third time for champion league was very awesome coach for Madrid.

Zidane is a legend in football World and in Real Madrid as a player and a coach. This season he wasn't lucky, he found the team struggling, succeeded to make it running very close to ATM but failed to bring a trophy home. Real Madrid problem isn't the coach, it is the current players, old ones in part but especially the guys that are useless and those who dropped badly in performance and fluctuating from a game to another. BTW we might see Zidane after few years in Madrid again, you never know, fans still appreciate him Wink

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I can't wake up when see Real Madrid social media announcement about give thank for Zidane because left Real Madrid this season, I was sad although Zidane not success give any trophy in this year for Madrid I think he was great coach for Madrid so far, success give La Liga trophy and third time for champion league was very awesome coach for Madrid.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on May 30, 2021, 04:24:47 AM

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In his age, I don't think Kane will take risk to play in La Liga.

I agree with this. I don't think he'll get the minutes that he may want on Real Madrid so it's a wise choice to stay in the league that he knows best.

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With those reasons, I think he will find a big club in Premier League. The best club is Manchester City. Kane will take risk if he joins Manchester United that are not better than Spurs, in my opinion.

It's probably his best chance to win a trophy on Man City but he won't have the same play time with the level of talent there. I think he'll be a good fit for Liverpool.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on May 30, 2021, 04:32:39 AM

I agree with you that Real Madrid should strengthen their squad for the next season. For example, they would make use of a top striker like you said. Kane is really decisive to leave Tottenham this summer. And Real Madrid could try to benefit from this opportunity.

I'm not a Real supporter but I think I know enough to say that the fans there didn't like Gareth Bale at all and were happy to let him go back to Spurs. Now to replace him with yet another Spurs star maybe I'm not sure they'll react well. Not that Kane is going to end up the same case as him... english? vs welsh? hehe

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Quote from: Iranus on May 30, 2021, 04:01:42 AM

Conte could be given the responsibility of coaching for Zidane's replacement. But then Real Madrid will have to build a stronger team. Real Madrid will need some new players. If Harry Kane joins the Real Madrid squad, Real Madrid will be stronger. Basically I mean, if Real Madrid don't have a good coach like Zidane, they should make the team stronger and add some new players to the squad.

I agree with you that Real Madrid should strengthen their squad for the next season. For example, they would make use of a top striker like you said. Kane is really decisive to leave Tottenham this summer. And Real Madrid could try to benefit from this opportunity.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 30, 2021, 04:01:42 AM

Conte could be given the responsibility of coaching for Zidane's replacement. But then Real Madrid will have to build a stronger team. Real Madrid will need some new players. If Harry Kane joins the Real Madrid squad, Real Madrid will be stronger. Basically I mean, if Real Madrid don't have a good coach like Zidane, they should make the team stronger and add some new players to the squad.

Real Madrid has some success with Italian coaches: Fabio Capello, Carlo Ancelotti and Antonio Conte can be a next successful coach for them. Conte does not hesitate to get challenge so he will probably agree the invitation from Real Madrid. He has a good CV from Azzuri, Serie A to Premier League. La Liga and Bundesliga can be next destinations for him.

Harry Kane is a great player but there are not many successful England players when they play in non-Premier-League leagues. In his age, I don't think Kane will take risk to play in La Liga. What he want are: break the record of all time scorer in Premier League that is currently hold by Alan Shearer. Win trophies especially Champions League.

With those reasons, I think he will find a big club in Premier League. The best club is Manchester City. Kane will take risk if he joins Manchester United that are not better than Spurs, in my opinion.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 29, 2021, 06:21:34 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

It is a good question who will manage to fill Zidane's place or even achieve better things than him. Some people say insistently that Conte could be brought to the club. But I'm not sure whether he can fit Real Madrid. But if there is no better alternative for now, he may be a nice choice.

Conte could be given the responsibility of coaching for Zidane's replacement. But then Real Madrid will have to build a stronger team. Real Madrid will need some new players. If Harry Kane joins the Real Madrid squad, Real Madrid will be stronger. Basically I mean, if Real Madrid don't have a good coach like Zidane, they should make the team stronger and add some new players to the squad.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 29, 2021, 06:21:34 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

It is a good question who will manage to fill Zidane's place or even achieve better things than him. Some people say insistently that Conte could be brought to the club. But I'm not sure whether he can fit Real Madrid. But if there is no better alternative for now, he may be a nice choice.

I was actually convinced that Massimiliano Allegri would become the new Real coach but apparently Allegri for some reason, probably emotional, chose Juve.
I think that at the moment Conte is not the favorite for the Real coach but Raul.
Zidane had a very good relationship with the players and he knew how to get the most out of them.
However, it was often complained that Zidane did not have the right tactics and game plan and that he achieved victories thanks to the individual quality of the players.
I think Real need an experienced coach with authority so that the situation that Juve had with Pirlo does not happen to them.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

It is a good question who will manage to fill Zidane's place or even achieve better things than him. Some people say insistently that Conte could be brought to the club. But I'm not sure whether he can fit Real Madrid. But if there is no better alternative for now, he may be a nice choice.

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Quote from: AndySt on May 29, 2021, 05:57:15 PM

Quote from: hd49728 on May 29, 2021, 06:45:44 AM

It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.
Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.
I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

In the current difficult times, when such super clubs as Real Madrid have serious financial problems, you need to count on the existing squad and count only on point reinforcements. By the way, Real Madrid does not have such a difficult financial situation as Inter, for example, when the club's management did not guarantee Conte not just the division of the squad for the Champions League, but simply the preservation of the current championship squad, which is why Conte was forced to leave the club.

Did you miss the news about Zidane's resignation from the Madrid coaching chair? I think it's accurate information because Madrid itself has authorized the resignation, or I was wrong. But yes, I found the news in the news media so I think it is true news and that also means, next season Madrid will have a new coach. Yes, Madrid must have a large amount of funds for the transfer market because after all, Madrid needs some more good players in several positions because then at least Madrid will remain on the winning track next season.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 29, 2021, 06:45:44 AM

It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.
Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.
I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

In the current difficult times, when such super clubs as Real Madrid have serious financial problems, you need to count on the existing squad and count only on point reinforcements. By the way, Real Madrid does not have such a difficult financial situation as Inter, for example, when the club's management did not guarantee Conte not just the division of the squad for the Champions League, but simply the preservation of the current championship squad, which is why Conte was forced to leave the club.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

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I personally knew that he would leave even way before the last matches. I think most of the reasons for his departure come from the fact that Perez didn't agree to give him power to bring in players he wanted. Like at one point, he wanted to bring in Pogba to the club but nothing was done for the transfer to happen.

At this point, I even don't know who will help Real Madrid. Zidane did so much despite having so many injuries and most key players who are very old. But we shall wait and see who comes in.

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Quote from: CLS63 on May 29, 2021, 10:35:45 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

He had great years at Real Madrid so far but this is the end of the road for him it seems. Whatever the reason is, I hope that he can go to another big team and help them achieve titles.
When it comes to the next manager of Real Madrid, there has been some rumours like Conte could take this position as he left Inter.

Real Madrid doesn’t seem to find an experienced and clever coach like Zidane now. Real Madrid's squad is not very strong at the moment. At the same time, if they do not have an experienced coach, they will have to stay without any title next season too. The management of Real Madrid should either keep Zidane as a coach for one more year by any means.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

He had great years at Real Madrid so far but this is the end of the road for him it seems. Whatever the reason is, I hope that he can go to another big team and help them achieve titles.
When it comes to the next manager of Real Madrid, there has been some rumours like Conte could take this position as he left Inter.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 28, 2021, 02:21:30 PM

If we have patience and believe in Koeman, I think he will be able to organize the Barcelona team more beautifully. But Koeman should look at the small mistakes of the team. Barcelona have lost many matches against weaker teams due to their own mistakes. In addition to organizing the team properly, the players also need to correct such small mistakes.

Totally with you there. As I said many times before, not his biggest fan but I do want to stick with him and give him a try. He is a quality coach, and he had nothing to do with Suarez's exit (I hope), and he like ANY coach, needs plenty of time to implement a strategy. If Wijnaldum really comes though I'll wish he doesn't bring in more Dutch people just for the sake of it.

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Quote from: snipie on May 29, 2021, 08:46:42 AM

Quote from: hd49728 on May 29, 2021, 06:45:44 AM

It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

Real Madrid before Zidane wasn't good and with him, the situation went better but for a team that used to get a trophy, getting nothing this season wasn't acceptable by the administration.
I agree that there is old players that will no longer give their best performance, they need fresh blood in order to keep stable results in the future. Mbappe or haaland for example can give a boost to the team and their salaries could be paid by oldies and Hazard ones.

Antonio Conte more close candidate to be next coach for Real Madrid after last issues with Allegri have been sign with Juventus, I see Conte is stronger reason to be Real Madrid coach and still waiting where destination for Zidane next season, become for hic country coach or looking new adventure on primer league.

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Quote from: hd49728 on May 29, 2021, 06:45:44 AM

It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

Real Madrid before Zidane wasn't good and with him, the situation went better but for a team that used to get a trophy, getting nothing this season wasn't acceptable by the administration.
I agree that there is old players that will no longer give their best performance, they need fresh blood in order to keep stable results in the future. Mbappe or haaland for example can give a boost to the team and their salaries could be paid by oldies and Hazard ones.

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Quote from: judas on May 28, 2021, 04:26:07 PM

I agree. Barcelona can make use of a much better manager. They need to gather themselves up and they need new and better players also. Conte is available for teams but it seems like he is closer to Real Madrid. Xavi might be a good choice as he is one of the legends of the club. But I hope that his end doesn't become like Pirlo's at Juventus. Grin

I know Koeman's accomplishment this season are better than Zidane because Barcelona managed to complete two title. But Laliga and the Champions League are far more important target than the Copa Del Rey and the Spanish Super League. Koeman doesn't have much experience there even though he has history in the Barcelona team.

In my opinion, every coach who join Barcelona usually has previous ties to the team and I don't think Conte will be considered. I would prefer Xavi over any other great coach who doesn't understand Barcelona's philosophy, and I'm sure every coach they sign will definitely not end up as badly as you think like Pirlo.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 29, 2021, 05:36:07 AM

For now, we only know that Zidane left Real, but very little is known about the specific reasons for that decision.
Today, Marca is trying to answer the question of what was going on behind the scenes.
It seems that some of the reasons for this decision of Zidane were ongoing contract discussions with Sergio Ramos and Lucas Vazquez and the strain of trying to compete on all fronts.
However, as revealed in Marca, the decisive event was the half-hour meeting between Zidane and Perez at the Hotel Carlton in Bilbao before the match against Athletic Club.
At that meeting, the most important decisions about the future of the club and Zidane were made, according to what Marca writes.
The question is who will have the necessary authority and charisma to replace Zidane?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/05/29/60b202d846163f8da78b45e1.html

It seems Zidane want to have budget for the upcoming transfer to rebuild the Real Madrid squad. The last season went with many injuries and Zidane did the best he can to help Los Blancos to get a second position and fight for La Liga trophy till the last day. In Champions League, they managed to join the semi final.

Nevertheless, the success can not blur or hide the fact that Real Madrid squad are old and many players need to be replaced by good and younger players. Modric, Ramos, Marcelo and even Kroos will not be able to play stably at top levels.

I think Zidane is smart and made a right choice. If Real Madrid falls into crisis in a new season, as a coach he will be responsible for bad results.

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