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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on May 12, 2021, 02:32:41 AM

It is a very productive match. 6 goals are very entertaining but a draw is a big failure for Messi and Barcelona. They have one point less than Athletico Madrid but have played one more match. If A Madrid win their match, they will have 4 points more than Barcelona. Not yet mention about Real Madrid. I am not feel strange if Barcelona will end this season in third position. After all efforts, that position will make Messi deeply sad.

Barcelona is a big disappointment this season, they cannot take advantage of the chances they are given, La Liga does not forgive such mistakes. Atletico is simply obliged to win today, all the teams are helping them as best they can. ) Real Sociedad has a lot of injured players and this will increase Atletico chances of winning.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on May 11, 2021, 11:49:21 PM

Barcelona does have a bad defense, conceding 36 goals from 36 appearances is something to watch out for. I agree Koeman must indeed
improve Barcelona's defense in the next season, otherwise they will be difficult to compete with other top teams. Barcelona must buy quality
defenders, even though Barcelona are experiencing financial difficulties, they could sell some of the players who didn't contribute this season.

Their defense system is never strong even with Pep era. They had less conceded goals in Pep era because their tiki taka dominated matches and did not give opponents any chance to counter attack. After the golden era with Pep, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, etc. their tiki taka became weaker and their defense system became more vulnerable to counter attacks.

Quote from: Iranus on May 12, 2021, 04:26:57 AM

Barcelona's midfield and forward are strong enough at the moment. They have a lot of young talented players who are talented but not experienced enough yet. If they become experienced, Barcelona will become irresistible. Now Koeman should build young talent properly and strengthen the team's defense. Barcelona should now include some skilled defenders in the squad.

Koeman is a legendary player in Camp Nou and he is a defender. His philosophy as a coach is different than Pep. He is not obsessed by tiki taka or ball possession.

The defense system of Barcelona will hardly be improved if they won't have contract for this area. It is wasteful of transfer budget as in recent seasons, they invested too much for defenders but most of them perform less than expected. Back to general transfer of Barcelona, they overpaid for attacking players too, not restrict to defenders.

With the return of Laporta, I hope their transfer strategy will become wiser and will help them rebuild their team. The era of Messi is ending but Barcelona still can rely on Messi contributions in a few seasons ahead.

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Quote from: waelov on May 11, 2021, 09:59:57 PM

The Levante match is the best definition of Barcelona's position this season ... He scored 3 goals and got 3 in return .
The strongest attack in the tournament, but the defense is paper as they are ranked number in number of goals scored while they are 6 for the leqst goqls conceded.

The Barcelona team is not stable. There is a lack of coordination among the players. Moreover, Barcelona is one of the weakest teams in defense this season. No matter how strong the forward lineup is, you can never be a champion in the La Liga with such a weak defense lineup. Koeman needs to change Barcelona's defense, and take the necessary steps to strengthen it.

Barcelona does have a bad defense, conceding 36 goals from 36 appearances is something to watch out for. I agree Koeman must indeed
improve Barcelona's defense in the next season, otherwise they will be difficult to compete with other top teams. Barcelona must buy quality
defenders, even though Barcelona are experiencing financial difficulties, they could sell some of the players who didn't contribute this season.

Barcelona's midfield and forward are strong enough at the moment. They have a lot of young talented players who are talented but not experienced enough yet. If they become experienced, Barcelona will become irresistible. Now Koeman should build young talent properly and strengthen the team's defense. Barcelona should now include some skilled defenders in the squad.

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Quote from: dwminer1 on May 12, 2021, 02:05:47 AM

Yesterday's game Levante - Barcelona had a very strange course. After the first half, the only unknown seemed to be how much the visitors will win. Levante's attitude in the second half was a surprise for everyone, and probably the biggest one for Barcelona's players. This is another match in which Barcelona lacks the determination to finish off their rival at the right moment, which is why they lost their chance for the Spanish championship.

It is a very productive match. 6 goals are very entertaining but a draw is a big failure for Messi and Barcelona. They have one point less than Athletico Madrid but have played one more match. If A Madrid win their match, they will have 4 points more than Barcelona. Not yet mention about Real Madrid. I am not feel strange if Barcelona will end this season in third position. After all efforts, that position will make Messi deeply sad.

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Yesterday's game Levante - Barcelona had a very strange course. After the first half, the only unknown seemed to be how much the visitors will win. Levante's attitude in the second half was a surprise for everyone, and probably the biggest one for Barcelona's players. This is another match in which Barcelona lacks the determination to finish off their rival at the right moment, which is why they lost their chance for the Spanish championship.

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Quote from: slaman29 on May 12, 2021, 01:02:17 AM

LOL at my own team, seriously. And no I never said it was going to be easy, this was always going to be a case of "on paper".

2 games left. And we need Atletico AND Real to both lose, so no, impossible. Now you all know why the bookies were offering 3x for Barca to get La Liga before the game:)

If no miracle happens, Barcelona will no longer be La Liga champions this season. Atletico Madrid is in a very strong position. Because their future opponents are much weaker than them. If Atletico Madrid will play their future match with a little care, they could easily win the title this season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on May 11, 2021, 05:14:55 PM

after Barcelona brought the score to 2-0, I thought that was it

I thought that too. But I suppose the big teams dropping points like this should no longer be a surprise.
Atletico have a huge chance now to claim the title, and all of their remaining games look winnable... but let's not be surprised if they start dropping points, too!

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LOL at my own team, seriously. And no I never said it was going to be easy, this was always going to be a case of "on paper".

2 games left. And we need Atletico AND Real to both lose, so no, impossible. Now you all know why the bookies were offering 3x for Barca to get La Liga before the game:)

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Quote from: waelov on May 11, 2021, 09:59:57 PM

The Levante match is the best definition of Barcelona's position this season ... He scored 3 goals and got 3 in return .
The strongest attack in the tournament, but the defense is paper as they are ranked number in number of goals scored while they are 6 for the leqst goqls conceded.

The Barcelona team is not stable. There is a lack of coordination among the players. Moreover, Barcelona is one of the weakest teams in defense this season. No matter how strong the forward lineup is, you can never be a champion in the La Liga with such a weak defense lineup. Koeman needs to change Barcelona's defense, and take the necessary steps to strengthen it.

Barcelona does have a bad defense, conceding 36 goals from 36 appearances is something to watch out for. I agree Koeman must indeed
improve Barcelona's defense in the next season, otherwise they will be difficult to compete with other top teams. Barcelona must buy quality
defenders, even though Barcelona are experiencing financial difficulties, they could sell some of the players who didn't contribute this season.

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Quote from: waelov on May 11, 2021, 09:59:57 PM

The Levante match is the best definition of Barcelona's position this season ... He scored 3 goals and got 3 in return .
The strongest attack in the tournament, but the defense is paper as they are ranked number in number of goals scored while they are 6 for the leqst goqls conceded.

The Barcelona team is not stable. There is a lack of coordination among the players. Moreover, Barcelona is one of the weakest teams in defense this season. No matter how strong the forward lineup is, you can never be a champion in the La Liga with such a weak defense lineup. Koeman needs to change Barcelona's defense, and take the necessary steps to strengthen it.

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The more interesting, the barca draw. Madrid must win against Granada, Zidane must work hard. If win, the difference is 2 points with Barca. The last two matches Madrid vs Granada, Madrid also always won. Especially if Atletico lose, Madrid will be in number 1.

No   Club    Match Win   Draw   Lost   Poin
1   Atletico    35   23   8   4   77
2   Barca   36   23   7   6   76
3   Madrid CF   35   22   9   4   75
4   Sevilla   35   22   5   8   71
5   Real S   35   15   11   9   56
6   Villarreal   35   13   13   9   52
7   Real Betis   34   14   9   11   51
8   Celta Vigo   35   12   11   12   47
9   Bilbao   35   11   13   11   46
10   Granada   34   13   6   15   45
11   Cadiz   35   11   10   14   43
12   Osasuna   35   10   11   14   41
13   Levante   35   10   12   14   40
14   Valencia    35   9   12   14   39
15   Getafe   35   8   10   17   34
16   Alaves   35   7   11   17   32
17   Real V   35   5   16   14   31
18   Huesca   35   6   12   17   30
19   Elche   35   6   12   17   30
20   Eibar    35   6   11   18   29

Source: https://www.goal.com/id/laliga/tabel/34pl8szyvrbwcmfkuocjm3r6t

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The Levante match is the best definition of Barcelona's position this season ... He scored 3 goals and got 3 in return .
The strongest attack in the tournament, but the defense is paper as they are ranked number in number of goals scored while they are 6 for the leqst goqls conceded.

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Barcelona and real Madrid they offered the league to atletico madrid , when they have the opportunity to be at the head of the league even temporarily they lost their chance.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 11, 2021, 05:40:29 PM

I am the only one surprised to see Atlhetico up there? It is not a high budget team, it is not outstanding in any particular area of the field and it does not have anything that other teams have. It is the perfect example of how you can thrive on others misfortunes. Not to mention that is not having a great performance outside Spain. Is the typical case in which I would have lost my bet.

It is a team that has players who try to prove themselves and move to a bigger ones, not just cashing salaries. It is a team that has a special gameplay that might be boring sometimes (where stories said it was invented by Simeone Tongue

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I agree that ATM is there partially thanks to the failure of Barca and Real Madrid. Not sure if they could stay over there until the end but they have done more than what was expected by their fans. I respect that team and hope they will be the champions this season.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 11, 2021, 04:53:56 PM

Barcelona blew away their 2 goal lead in First half to settle for a draw

It is a big mistake to get a draw in this match. I don't know what's wrong with Barcelona players, they were already leading on the match but ended with a draw. It seems their defensive line very poor and needs to have some changes in the next season.

Quote from: JeromeTash on May 11, 2021, 04:53:56 PM

This is not the La Liga of the times of Guardiola or Frank Rijkaard, this is La liga 2021.

Indeed. La Liga 2021 is very challenging for big teams, including Barcelona. Even they play against a weaker team but the result sometimes unpredictable, it can be a draw or a loss. For football lovers, it is something good because La Liga competition is more competitive. But for the big teams like Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, and Real Madrid, this can be their bad achievement.

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I am the only one surprised to see Atlhetico up there? It is not a high budget team, it is not outstanding in any particular area of the field and it does not have anything that other teams have. It is the perfect example of how you can thrive on others misfortunes. Not to mention that is not having a great performance outside Spain. Is the typical case in which I would have lost my bet.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 11, 2021, 04:53:56 PM

It's Over!
To all those whose said it was going to be an easy win for Barcelona. I have some very bad news for you. Barcelona blew away their 2 goal lead in First half to settle for a draw Grin

~snip~

Personally I thought it as well. Didn't expect that Barcelona will make a draw against Levante. Even I thought, Barcelona willl win all of the last three games in this season. Anyway, Barcelona lost the opportunity to get the first position in point table. Now I'm not expecting anything from them in their next two matches. Probably Atlético going to have the title of this season. Real Madrid have slight chance too.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 11, 2021, 04:53:56 PM

To all those whose said it was going to be an easy win for Barcelona. I have some very bad news for you. Barcelona blew away their 2 goal lead in First half to settle for a draw Grin

It really should have been pretty easy for Barcelona, they had the game under control, I'm still bemused how a team of Barcelona's quality can throw away a two goal lead and two points as well to Levante at this crucial time of the season, it basically shows they are not all out to be champions, I'm now rooting for Athletico Madrid to win the title, I think they deserve it more.

Quote from: DIA7 on May 11, 2021, 04:59:54 PM

The league now is lost no more Hope left, this means Koeman days at Barcelona could be over, he is leading Barcelona as he likes, and he is the first reason for this current deterioration

Koeman isn't the major problem at the camp Nou, I'll blame the hierarchy at Barcelona for some of the mess the club is in, both on and off the field, so many wrong decisions have been made at Barcelona in the past few years, a lot has to change in the club for them to regain their status we've become accustomed to.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 11, 2021, 04:53:56 PM

It's Over!

To all those whose said it was going to be an easy win for Barcelona. I have some very bad news for you. Barcelona blew away their 2 goal lead in First half to settle for a draw Grin

This is not the La Liga of the times of Guardiola or Frank Rijkaard, this is La liga 2021.

It was really a shocking result to me. I was nervous about the possibility that Levante might get a point. And they did it. Actually, after Barcelona brought the score to 2-0, I thought that was it. But I really appreciated Levante's huge comeback. Barcelona shouldn't have made a mistake here. Now, Atletico and Real both could get quite ahead of Barcelona if they both win their games. Messi should be very angry with his team due to the result.

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Barcelona shine in self suicide .
They are inventing a new ways to kill their fans .
The league now is lost no more Hope left, this means Koeman days at Barcelona could be over, he is leading Barcelona as he likes, and he is the first reason for this current deterioration .
As long as Barcelona became a field of experiment. It will be harder to convince Messi to stay now.

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