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Atletico will probably want to sacrifice everything at this point for another run to Champs League final (I think they can have equal chance at least as Barca in this weird scenario of covid fitness and availability. I know nothing about any team right now and I think we can only judge after the first few games. I don't even know if my team is still intact!

I don’t think much chance of Atletico getting to the final, they were very lucky to get past Liverpool in the last round. I think they’ll get taken apart by the next big team they play in the CL.

Liverpool is for sure the favorite of this game but Atletico has still their chances.
We cannot expect how teams are going to react after this huge break.
Maybe we can see a huge difference in Atletico's performance and score outstanding goals.
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Atletico will probably want to sacrifice everything at this point for another run to Champs League final (I think they can have equal chance at least as Barca in this weird scenario of covid fitness and availability. I know nothing about any team right now and I think we can only judge after the first few games. I don't even know if my team is still intact!

I don’t think much chance of Atletico getting to the final, they were very lucky to get past Liverpool in the last round. I think they’ll get taken apart by the next big team they play in the CL.
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Lol I thought you called Messi stupid.

I would never do such a thing hehe. And even if I did, for any player at any time, I would have said it in a joking way and never serious. I'm always full of respect for people who give their lives to their clubs:)

For me derby of Sevilla is probably most tricky game after lockdown. Sevilla is favorites, but Betis is very unpredictable team. They can play draw against Mallorca and Leganes, but they won against Real before lockdown, lost to Barca just 2:3.
It will be very difficult for Valencia. Gap between 3 and 7 places is small, so it will be very interesting to watch how it will end. Even Atletico may end without CL spot. And maybe Getafe can qualify to it through Europa league if they will win it. Looking how they playing this season, I think it's possible.

Atletico will probably want to sacrifice everything at this point for another run to Champs League final (I think they can have equal chance at least as Barca in this weird scenario of covid fitness and availability. I know nothing about any team right now and I think we can only judge after the first few games. I don't even know if my team is still intact!
Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like La Liga will start next Friday after almost three months because of Covid-19. It is not yet understood what the mental and physical condition of the players of any team is! I think the effect of starting the game after a long time will be felt in the game. Real Madrid and Barcelona play on the same day and Atletico Madrid. The point is that the first tier teams play on the same day, their position will be understood on the same day.
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Lol I thought you called Messi stupid.

I would never do such a thing hehe. And even if I did, for any player at any time, I would have said it in a joking way and never serious. I'm always full of respect for people who give their lives to their clubs:)

For me derby of Sevilla is probably most tricky game after lockdown. Sevilla is favorites, but Betis is very unpredictable team. They can play draw against Mallorca and Leganes, but they won against Real before lockdown, lost to Barca just 2:3.
It will be very difficult for Valencia. Gap between 3 and 7 places is small, so it will be very interesting to watch how it will end. Even Atletico may end without CL spot. And maybe Getafe can qualify to it through Europa league if they will win it. Looking how they playing this season, I think it's possible.

Atletico will probably want to sacrifice everything at this point for another run to Champs League final (I think they can have equal chance at least as Barca in this weird scenario of covid fitness and availability. I know nothing about any team right now and I think we can only judge after the first few games. I don't even know if my team is still intact!
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Sevilla is playing home with Betis, it is a city derby, and have put Sevilla on my parlay, to celebrate La liga restart, although do not expect easy one for them, do think that they could win first after restart, to ensure their position three
hope that La liga will finish in good manner, without corona outbreak, and that VCF will be among top four for CL qualification
For me derby of Sevilla is probably most tricky game after lockdown. Sevilla is favorites, but Betis is very unpredictable team. They can play draw against Mallorca and Leganes, but they won against Real before lockdown, lost to Barca just 2:3.
It will be very difficult for Valencia. Gap between 3 and 7 places is small, so it will be very interesting to watch how it will end. Even Atletico may end without CL spot. And maybe Getafe can qualify to it through Europa league if they will win it. Looking how they playing this season, I think it's possible.
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Sevilla is playing home with Betis, it is a city derby, and have put Sevilla on my parlay, to celebrate La liga restart, although do not expect easy one for them, do think that they could win first after restart, to ensure their position three
hope that La liga will finish in good manner, without corona outbreak, and that VCF will be among top four for CL qualification
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html

Koeman, hmmm he hasn’t been manager of a big club recently & there isn’t many bigger than Barca. Maybe tgey should move for Pochettino, he plays progressive football with modern tactics.

Actually in the past Barcelona was well known as a club that brave enough to hire a coach with not so much experience before, and the results were amazing. E.g. Rijkaard, Vilanova, Enrique, and ofc Pep. I wouldn't be surprised if Pimienta as Barcelona B coach gets promoted to senior level.

Most of the time I have watched, Barcelona always likes to take a little risk and most of the time they achieve success with confidence. I think the reason behind of their success is only of hard work and their strong morale. so, I think it's no matter, who the coach is! if he works hard for his trainee, we will definitely see Barcelona's improvement.

Barcelona is also one of the most famous club in the world and everybody wants to play in Barcelona 😁
They don't have problem to bring any player and financially they are very strong.
So,  it's natural that Barcelona always wants to win and to collect titles.
Of course,  it's very difficult to be coach in Barcelona because demands and goals  are very high.
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Most of the time I have watched, Barcelona always likes to take a little risk and most of the time they achieve success with confidence. I think the reason behind of their success is only of hard work and their strong morale. so, I think it's no matter, who the coach is! if he works hard for his trainee, we will definitely see Barcelona's improvement.
I dunno, but I feel Barca was so stable and great under Joan Laporta, even without any sponsorship deal on their jersey at that time. He had only two coaches Rijkaard and Pep during his time as Barca's president, while from the time he was replaced in 2010 till today, there are 5 coaches already. Maybe the problem is more likely on their management system than the technical issue. Not saying everything was great under Laporta, but their performance at that time and the youth development program were much better.
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html

Koeman, hmmm he hasn’t been manager of a big club recently & there isn’t many bigger than Barca. Maybe tgey should move for Pochettino, he plays progressive football with modern tactics.

Actually in the past Barcelona was well known as a club that brave enough to hire a coach with not so much experience before, and the results were amazing. E.g. Rijkaard, Vilanova, Enrique, and ofc Pep. I wouldn't be surprised if Pimienta as Barcelona B coach gets promoted to senior level.

Most of the time I have watched, Barcelona always likes to take a little risk and most of the time they achieve success with confidence. I think the reason behind of their success is only of hard work and their strong morale. so, I think it's no matter, who the coach is! if he works hard for his trainee, we will definitely see Barcelona's improvement.
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html
I  remember that his name was laready mentioned back in January, but it was reported that he want to stay in Netherlands and manage national team in Euro 2020
If Setien will end season without trophies, I don't see him in Barca next season, despite long contract. I still see him more as caretaker who was chosen when there was not many options available
@DeathAngel, compared to Setien, he mnaged solid clubs -Everton, Southampton, Feyenoord. Don't even talk about Ajax, Benfica or PSV 15-20 years ago. And probably last Barca manager with solid CV was Van Gaal. Well, Valverde maybe, but he never managed title contender in La Liga before Barca.

BTW, there is great news for Barca - Luis Suarez is finally ready to play against Mallorca upcoming weekend.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/luis-suarez-fit-for-mallorca-clash-barcelona-confirm/18g0z6vgorf1r193cj72joh0uv
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html

Koeman, hmmm he hasn’t been manager of a big club recently & there isn’t many bigger than Barca. Maybe tgey should move for Pochettino, he plays progressive football with modern tactics.

Actually in the past Barcelona was well known as a club that brave enough to hire a coach with not so much experience before, and the results were amazing. E.g. Rijkaard, Vilanova, Enrique, and ofc Pep. I wouldn't be surprised if Pimienta as Barcelona B coach gets promoted to senior level.
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html

Koeman, hmmm he hasn’t been manager of a big club recently & there isn’t many bigger than Barca. Maybe tgey should move for Pochettino, he plays progressive football with modern tactics.
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Quique Setien seems to have been just Barcelona’s second choice for a new coach in January  Cheesy
The first choice was Ronald Koeman but he decided to remain the coach of the Dutch national team and lead them to the euro.
However, Ronald Koeman confirmed that his dream is to one day become the coach of Barcelona and left that possibility open.
Do you think Ronald Koeman could be Barcelona’s next coach?
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/06/06/5edbbf89ca4741e90e8b45d1.html
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Exactly! I'm a Barca guy so of course this news concerns me but it's nothing more than a malicious rumor at the moment, and we all know there have been plenty of those aimed at Barca (including the stupid Messi is not fit rumor) for some agenda everyone wants the club to fail.

If it was real, you can be sure the fines will be coming and every other club president will be calling for blood.
Lol I thought you called Messi stupid.
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What I meant from my statement is, ofc that's unproven news. If the news is real, surely Barca rivals would sue them due to their transparency issue which risk everyone in league. But in fact no one would do that since it's baseless and all of their players test negative currently.
If we think logically then surely all La-Liga clubs will demand that Barcelona not be involved or participate as one of the competitors if they hide an infected player. But actually the news is a rumor to make the atmosphere chaotic or for other purposes.

Exactly! I'm a Barca guy so of course this news concerns me but it's nothing more than a malicious rumor at the moment,
Interesting, lets assume that the news is only limited to rumors that occur in the world of sports, especially football.
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But that's not the case with Barca. Nobody is talking that they were hiding information about infected players.
What I meant from my statement is, ofc that's unproven news. If the news is real, surely Barca rivals would sue them due to their transparency issue which risk everyone in league. But in fact no one would do that since it's baseless and all of their players test negative currently.

Exactly! I'm a Barca guy so of course this news concerns me but it's nothing more than a malicious rumor at the moment, and we all know there have been plenty of those aimed at Barca (including the stupid Messi is not fit rumor) for some agenda everyone wants the club to fail.

If it was real, you can be sure the fines will be coming and every other club president will be calling for blood.
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But that's not the case with Barca. Nobody is talking that they were hiding information about infected players.
What I meant from my statement is, ofc that's unproven news. If the news is real, surely Barca rivals would sue them due to their transparency issue which risk everyone in league. But in fact no one would do that since it's baseless and all of their players test negative currently.


As I understand it happened when season was already stopped and there was no games and training in action, so there was no danger for players and staff of other teams.
No matter when it happened, every infected person brings virus. We don't know since when he got infected and who he has interacted with. There is a possibility these players (if they really tested positive) got infected before the league stopped. As long as we fight invisible thing, it always be dangerous mate. Transparency is priority in current situation.
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People talked too much about the theory that the match between Atalanta and Valencia in Milan is a biological bomb that spreads the contagious virus from Italy to Spain, then makes the two nations become most infected nations in the Europe. Maybe it is right but to say Atalanta manager hid their info about infected players and kept playing that match and did not care about risks of Valencia players' health is lack of proof.


Understandable, but this is not only one factor and it is very possible there are many other factors that caused these two countries to get a terrible pandemic. But now almost everything can be overcome because we are in the middle of a period between pandemic, treatment, and return to normal. We all need to be able to see and be optimistic about the future and make the pandemic a history that we will remember in old age.

LaLiga will start soon next week or on June 12, 2020, I really hope that the first match after a long delay does not become an awkward match between the players. Hopefully everything goes smoothly.

@BITCOIN4X one of the biggest common factor between these two countries was their over confidence, because both Italy and Spain had knowledge that covid19 was spreading quickly, but they refused to act on that information.

Also another factor that they had in common which led to the surge in covid19 cases was their failure to close public places, and stop mass gatherings when covid19 cases were initially detected, and had they taken swift actions then many people’s lives could have been saved.

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Unfortunately, overconfidence was another trait shared by the governments of Spain and Italy in the critical weeks leading up to COVID-19’s explosion. Authorities in both countries underestimated just how fast the virus could spread and how quickly it could push their healthcare systems to the verge of collapse.

Italy’s failures – partially justified by the unprecedented nature of the event – happened despite the successful policies to contain the pandemic already used in countries such as China, South Korea, and Singapore.

On March 8, the same day a quarantine zone was declared across much of Northern Italy, the Spanish government was encouraging people across the country to take to the streets for International Women’s Day protests.

At the time, 10 people had already died of COVID-19 in Spain and 520 cases had been confirmed. On the day of the massive protests, Spain’s health minister held a press conference telling people to stay home if they were feeling ill.



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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/covid-19-what-went-wrong-in-italy-and-spain/1797461
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But could you elaborate for what exactly Barca rivals could sue them?
Don't you think it's a serious issue, if a friend of your kid get infected with some disease, but his parents hide it from you?
But that's not the case with Barca. Nobody is talking that they were hiding information about infected players. As I understand it happened when season was already stopped and there was no games and training in action, so there was no danger for players and staff of other teams. it probably more fits to Atalanta manager who worked in Champions league gamer against Valencia despite having Covid-19 symptoms.
but now I doubt that would be possible to hide such things when there is intensive testing of players and staff in action.

Well,  we didn't see any official statement about this case from Barcelona or Spanish football Association so it's not transparent enough.
We even don't know when this incident happened,  maybe all players already was together during training.
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People talked too much about the theory that the match between Atalanta and Valencia in Milan is a biological bomb that spreads the contagious virus from Italy to Spain, then makes the two nations become most infected nations in the Europe. Maybe it is right but to say Atalanta manager hid their info about infected players and kept playing that match and did not care about risks of Valencia players' health is lack of proof.
Understandable, but this is not only one factor and it is very possible there are many other factors that caused these two countries to get a terrible pandemic. But now almost everything can be overcome because we are in the middle of a period between pandemic, treatment, and return to normal. We all need to be able to see and be optimistic about the future and make the pandemic a history that we will remember in old age.

LaLiga will start soon next week or on June 12, 2020, I really hope that the first match after a long delay does not become an awkward match between the players. Hopefully everything goes smoothly.
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