La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4686.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

The stats didn't justify what really happened during the match, Valencia were totally deserved winners of match, Barca were awful in the first half, the entire team looked very sluggish and were extremely lucky not to have been 2 - 3 goals down before the break. After the break, Barca seemed to have found their rhythm and were close to scoring just before Valencia's first goal which made the task a bit more difficult, Introduction of Vidal positively influenced Barcelona's performance but that wasn't enough to save the day. Ter Stegen was the best player for Barcelona with his stunning saves, there was absolutely nothing he could about either goals.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 25, 2020, 01:53:42 PM

Valencia - Barcelona ( 2 - 0 )

Barcelona disappointed a lot in this game, they failed to score at least 1 goal. From what I see Barcelona is needing to hire good players for their attack to be better. It was a very humiliating defeat. I hope that tomorrow Real Madrid beat Real Valladolid and with that Real Madrid will be in first place in La Liga

My bet for the match between real Madrid - Real Valladolid:

I think after Neymar leaving, Barcelona attacks getting weaker week after week. They need key ST or FW player immediately. And there is just a limited time for transfer season. They should make a big decision about it.

What do you think? I think Haaland would be great for Barça, but...

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on January 25, 2020, 01:38:02 PM

I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

Stats may say otherwise but Barcelona played awful today. Under Quique Setien, Barcelona find the way to pass quickly between players but where is the final product? Just for an example, out of 14 shots Barcelona registered 11 came from Messi. He was only active player for Barcelona today apart from Ter Stegen. But his performance was also below par. He missed all his 11 shots. He failed to convert any of the 4 free kicks (one was only 21m away). When you are Lionel Messi, fans expect better from you.

So in the nutshell, coach changed but situation isn't.
Messi's Good Day = Barca's Good Day
Messi's Bad Day = Barca's Awful Day

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Valencia - Barcelona ( 2 - 0 )

Barcelona disappointed a lot in this game, they failed to score at least 1 goal. From what I see Barcelona is needing to hire good players for their attack to be better. It was a very humiliating defeat. I hope that tomorrow Real Madrid beat Real Valladolid and with that Real Madrid will be in first place in La Liga

My bet for the match between real Madrid - Real Valladolid:

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I didn't watch the game but Valencia won Shocked

Did they got luck or they deserve the win?

According to https://understat.com/match/12231

Well, from stats it seems a even match. Who deserved?

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Quote from: Harkorede on January 25, 2020, 10:11:39 AM

Holy fuck! What the hell from Pique, It's just 10 minutes and Piques just gave Valencia an opportunity to take the lead! What a silly challenge.

EDIT: Ter stegen saved it, Scores remains goalless. It would have been a blow to Barca has they've dominated the entire prior to that fast break for Valencia.

They now have a goal... It should have been 2-0 by now Shocked

Valencia's attempts are far more potent compared to Barcelona's. Barcelona are playing like they have already won the league. If this is the kind of play the new Coach is going to emphasize, then it's going to be a fail.

Goals win matches, not possessing the ball with short passes while waking on the pitch.

Barcelona lost the match and as a Real Madrid fan I’m very happy with this result, and now I’m sincerely hoping that Real Madrid can win their match on Monday and establish a healthy lead at the top of the table. @Bitcoin_Arena it’s too early to blame their new coach, because we need to give him some more time before we can fully understand his methods.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on January 25, 2020, 01:06:50 PM

Quote from: tomahawk9 on January 25, 2020, 12:34:28 PM

3 games so far and FC Lionel Ter Stegen under Quique Setien is playing A LOT worse than Valverde's team Roll Eyes

Well, not that bad, I mean, today they had 78% ball possesion and almost 900 passes!! LOL some are saying that they're still passing the ball on the way to the locker room and the bus hahaha

Well, 3 first games of Setien wasn't good. But I think it's too early to judge him. Having huge ball posession and just passing ball isn't enough. Barca just weren't dangerous enough in attack. With absence of Suarez, we have lack of good forward. It's strange to say such words when we have Messi and Griezmann, but it's reality. And new formation 3-1-4-2 didn't really worked today. I hope that they will get Suarez replacement before end of transfer window.

Semedo should start over Roberto. Under Setien, Alba is deployed mainly as a midfielder. This creates extra pressure on back three so Barcelona needs quick feet at Right Back. Semedo is better than Roberto when it comes to speed, also he can move ball more swiftly through right wing and combine with Messi/Fati.

Second problem is in forward line. Griezmann was mostly invisible. Fati's lack of experience was clearly visible. Fati has a potential to be the player for future but certainly not a starter at the moment. Barcelona urgently needs someone who can actually beat the full-backs of opponent and enter in the box. Does that remind about anyone to you? Yes, Dembele! His presence is very much needed in the absence of Suarez,

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on January 25, 2020, 12:34:28 PM

3 games so far and FC Lionel Ter Stegen under Quique Setien is playing A LOT worse than Valverde's team Roll Eyes

Well, not that bad, I mean, today they had 78% ball possesion and almost 900 passes!! LOL some are saying that they're still passing the ball on the way to the locker room and the bus hahaha

Well, 3 first games of Setien wasn't good. But I think it's too early to judge him. Having huge ball posession and just passing ball isn't enough. Barca just weren't dangerous enough in attack. With absence of Suarez, we have lack of good forward. It's strange to say such words when we have Messi and Griezmann, but it's reality. And new formation 3-1-4-2 didn't really worked today. I hope that they will get Suarez replacement before end of transfer window.

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Quote from: Sterbens on January 25, 2020, 11:15:41 AM

Now that Valencia has led one goal and Barcelona continue to press efforts to create a goal to equalize, maybe this will have bad luck on Barcelona until the end of this match?
Messi's kick is really bad luck.

At the end of the match Barcelona lost 2-0. Looking at the Barcelona game, I think they really deserve to lose this match. When Valencia failed with their penalty kick I thought Barcelona would avoid defeat and could draw. It turned out that the Valencia attack was really effective. And Barcelona until the end of the game like the difficulty to enter the Valencia defense area.

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Quote from: Raflesia on January 25, 2020, 11:40:16 AM

Barcelona lost their concentration as their game was very messy maybe this was due to the effect of losing 2 goals behind by Valencia so it did not focus on their core game so now it only shows a bad game.
With a new coach Setién does not provide a good opportunity when competing with Valencia.

Didn't expect that Valencia is going to win this game.
So bad performance from Barcelona and I think that the problem is that the board sacked Valverde. I hope that Real Madrid is going to punish them and get a lead of 3 points in this fixture.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on January 25, 2020, 08:44:02 AM

It's worth mentioning that Valencia are unbeaten at Mestalla..Valencia double chance @2.29??? Shocked

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3 games so far and FC Lionel Ter Stegen under Quique Setien is playing A LOT worse than Valverde's team Roll Eyes

Well, not that bad, I mean, today they had 78% ball possesion and almost 900 passes!! LOL some are saying that they're still passing the ball on the way to the locker room and the bus hahaha

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Quote from: JeromeTash on January 25, 2020, 11:48:30 AM

Quote from: snipie on January 25, 2020, 11:43:14 AM

Wonder know without stegen how the score of this game will be!
2-0 for Valencia and VAR...loading...?

They could have been 4 or 5 goals by now. Just seen some disallowed goal too by Gabriel Paulista. Who else is watch the match? It's definitely so interesting for neutrals and Anti-Barcelona fans.

Now all Real Madrid has to do is win tomorrow. It doesn't matter how, just win!

Barcelona's defeat with Valcensia is a bad thing because Barcelona want to pursue points and like to be subject to Valencia, because Valencia stopped Barca step to add points.
A few hours later Real Madrid will compete with Valladolid and this opponents weak team Real Madrid must take this opportunity to lead the temporary standings in LaLiga ,.

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Noice. Real's chance to take the lead at the table now. I think I have a Real vs Barca point propbet vs somebody in the thread. Was It Trofo or DeathAngel?

Edit: Trofo

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Quote from: snipie on January 25, 2020, 11:43:14 AM

Wonder know without stegen how the score of this game will be!
2-0 for Valencia and VAR...loading...?

They could have been 4 or 5 goals by now. Just seen some disallowed goal too by Gabriel Paulista. Who else is watch the match? It's definitely so interesting for neutrals and Anti-Barcelona fans.

Now all Real Madrid has to do is win tomorrow. It doesn't matter how, just win!

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Quote from: Harkorede on January 25, 2020, 10:11:39 AM

Holy fuck! What the hell from Pique, It's just 10 minutes and Piques just gave Valencia an opportunity to take the lead! What a silly challenge.

EDIT: Ter stegen saved it, Scores remains goalless. It would have been a blow to Barca has they've dominated the entire prior to that fast break for Valencia.

Wonder know without stegen how the score of this game will be!
2-0 for Valencia and VAR...loading...?

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Barcelona lost their concentration as their game was very messy maybe this was due to the effect of losing 2 goals behind by Valencia so it did not focus on their core game so now it only shows a bad game.
With a new coach Setién does not provide a good opportunity when competing with Valencia.

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Quote from: Harkorede on January 25, 2020, 10:11:39 AM

Holy fuck! What the hell from Pique, It's just 10 minutes and Piques just gave Valencia an opportunity to take the lead! What a silly challenge.

EDIT: Ter stegen saved it, Scores remains goalless. It would have been a blow to Barca has they've dominated the entire prior to that fast break for Valencia.

They now have a goal... It should have been 2-0 by now Shocked

Valencia's attempts are far more potent compared to Barcelona's. Barcelona are playing like they have already won the league. If this is the kind of play the new Coach is going to emphasize, then it's going to be a fail.

Goals win matches, not possessing the ball with short passes while waking on the pitch.

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Quote from: akmal1984 on January 25, 2020, 10:51:29 AM

Quote from: Raflesia on January 25, 2020, 10:40:46 AM

Valencia is not an easy opponent but there must be a struggle to win this match if you want to stay in the top position.
The game of Xavi and Ineasta is currently difficult to emulate for new Barcelona players after they left the club so that the Barcelona game like before will not be repeated and even now it is difficult to develop it.

Barcelona played mediocre in the first half. They dominate the ball position but they have difficulty penetrating the Valencia penalty box. Precisely Valencia played very effectively by having a lot of golden opportunities. Unfortunately the penalty was successfully denied by Ter Steiger .essi has not shown his magical power. It looks like the match will end in a draw.

Now that Valencia has led one goal and Barcelona continue to press efforts to create a goal to equalize, maybe this will have bad luck on Barcelona until the end of this match?
Messi's kick is really bad luck.

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A short overview on the current top clubs in la liga, just my views though.

For real madrid, i think Zizou has steadied the ship, the consistencies of valverde and Militao has fit in good after couple of struggles, but even though clearly madrid misses the goal exploits of ronaldo, benzema has done well, and the future looks brighter.

For Atletico, it is a roller coaster because the players with Diego are good players, but not rugged and to play the defensive side of football for 90 minutes tires out the team, Diego needs to work out another strategy because he can't continue to be a defensive coach.

For barcelona, i think barcelona fans expect too much which is an issue, and led to the panic buys of coutinho and dembele, The gems in messi, ronaldo, xavi or david silva comes rarely, finding players suited to xavi or iniesta style of play isnt't the way out.

Consistency, and winning strategy is all that is needed.

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Quote from: Raflesia on January 25, 2020, 10:40:46 AM

Valencia is not an easy opponent but there must be a struggle to win this match if you want to stay in the top position.
The game of Xavi and Ineasta is currently difficult to emulate for new Barcelona players after they left the club so that the Barcelona game like before will not be repeated and even now it is difficult to develop it.

Barcelona played mediocre in the first half. They dominate the ball position but they have difficulty penetrating the Valencia penalty box. Precisely Valencia played very effectively by having a lot of golden opportunities. Unfortunately the penalty was successfully denied by Ter Steiger .essi has not shown his magical power. It looks like the match will end in a draw.

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