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Topic: Lab Rat Data Processing, LLC (LabRatMining) Official Announcement - page 132. (Read 452290 times)

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He as another employee (no, not me) who can pay divs.  And who is working on it now.
grnbrg.

Yeahh !!!

Double dividends this week !  Grin
Rahhh joking...  Wink

lol
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He as another employee (no, not me) who can pay divs.  And who is working on it now.
grnbrg.

Yeahh !!!

Double dividends this week !  Grin
Rahhh joking...  Wink
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Official LRM shill
If LRM's in Miami today, who's paying Divs?  Huh
He as another employee (no, not me) who can pay divs.  And who is working on it now.


grnbrg.
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If LRM's in Miami today, who's paying Divs?  Huh

Don't worry...maybe Lab_Rat will find a keyboard in Miami...and maybe something attached to it  Grin

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If LRM's in Miami today, who's paying Divs?  Huh
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Hodl!

Will shareholders be able to buy BitFury units directly from LRM at a reduced cost?

That would be nice, though I would suggest something like a minimum of 1% back to LRM for new hardware, and a percent or two for LRs beer fund for dealing with the hassle of it. If minimum 1% of hardware sales always goes back into hardware for hashing, then it never fights against the objective of getting 1% of network hash.
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Will shareholders be able to buy BitFury units directly from LRM at a reduced cost?

smracer...please...wake up...

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Will shareholders be able to buy BitFury units directly from LRM at a reduced cost?
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An independent miner.

I think you might have considered me as one of the Debbie Downers. Being notably negative is not my intention, but to ask serious questions as an interested party (in this case already w/ built-up expectations). But if I was or even seemed unappreciative, I apologize and was wrong. So, I deleted the post that might have come off that way. And to be clear on a related note, I appreciate all the hard work Zach (LabRat) does for LRM. And even if LRM were to ultimately fail, I would appreciate his work and think no less of him at all. He's human and will at least have tried - c'est la vie - and I've had my share of failures.

The news is good, yet I still have some questions. I'll defer some to later and hope LabRat gives more details in the next day or two. Especially looking for:

(1) Distinguishing whether this is the new ASIC chip project he was referring to or not.
(2) How the hardware price/performance will compared to Cointerra 28nm... if it's manufactured for private use, that will be a huge plus.
(3) Whether this hardware will be available exclusively to CoinSeed & LRM...or be sold retail to any miners.
(4) What kind of benefit LRM will have - e.g. will LRM be able to acquire hardware at near cost?
(5) And whether Kauffman of CoinSeed has any vested interest in LRM as a bond holder. Hopefully he does. Smiley



To be fair to you and anybody I referred to as a downer I'm speaking from a narrow perspective. I'm intending to hold my bonds for the long haul.  I'm neither looking to part with nor acquire more bonds for quite some time.

If I were interested in those prospects then surely I would want more information faster.  I'm just watching it play out.

The questions you pose are fair and good.  I took an insulting tone toward you, however I'm not against your critical analysis.  It was a bit of a buzz kill but your points are important and relevant.
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So, anyone want to start a pool on when labrat gets to a regular keyboard again?
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I think one of the goals of LRM is to try to get 1 percent of all hashing power. If LRM gets to that point, then Ill be happy. With dave at 800 THS now,wow! I think this is great news. Do I have concerns? Absolutely, but when we get 200 THS online soon, now that will be a great start....
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PCB noob here... but:

Perhaps the aluminium is not part of a ground connection.  Perhaps they ran all the interconnects in a layer above that such that the Al is bonded to the PCB's insulating surface layer with non electrically conductive adhesive, and the pins on that side of the m-board socket are not connected to anything.
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as long as the boards aren't moved much.

Yup, I'm thinking thermal cycling and vibration would have you with a continually diminishing contact patch as oxidation works it's way in though.

Just spot weld it.  Tongue
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Will LR be able to purchase at or near cost?

CoinSeed and LR are just buying from Dave in large volumes. I'm sure they got a good price, but as long as they're not buying BitFury itself or starting some kind of chip-making collaboration, there is no reason to assume they will get it at cost.

I'm guessing that's then just BitFury chips bought from Dave. And they have another partner to build the boards at a reduced the cost. Makes me more curious about the prior claim of a project to design & produce a new ASIC chip.
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Hodl!
as long as the boards aren't moved much.

Yup, I'm thinking thermal cycling and vibration would have you with a continually diminishing contact patch as oxidation works it's way in though.
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Will LR be able to purchase at or near cost?

CoinSeed and LR are just buying from Dave in large volumes. I'm sure they got a good price, but as long as they're not buying BitFury itself or starting some kind of chip-making collaboration, there is no reason to assume they will get it at cost.
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Okay then, time for some secret sauce,

Dielectric grease, as used on sparkplug wires. wipe thinly onto bitfury edge connector, will seal off from air.... won't work on weakly sprung or worn connectors that can't displace the grease, but should improve reliability of anything else.
Dielectric grease would help some, but it's still a bit of a bandaid. The problem isn't so much that the aluminum oxides over time, it's that it oxides essentially immediately in contact with air so the boards are already compromised. That's why it's such a huge PITA to solder aluminum. Stiff enough springs on the card edge connector should cut through a thin layer though, so it probably won't be a big issue to start as there are many ground connections, as long as the boards aren't moved much.
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Okay then, time for some secret sauce,

Dielectric grease, as used on sparkplug wires. wipe thinly onto bitfury edge connector, will seal off from air.... won't work on weakly sprung or worn connectors that can't displace the grease, but should improve reliability of anything else.



I'M SO HARDCORE

I DON'T NEED TO LUBE MY MINER

Wink



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Hodl!
Okay then, time for some secret sauce,

Dielectric grease, as used on sparkplug wires. wipe thinly onto bitfury edge connector, will seal off from air.... won't work on weakly sprung or worn connectors that can't displace the grease, but should improve reliability of anything else.
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Out of curiosity, who designed your PCB? I've never seen an aluminum core used for an edge connector like that without a backside and having gold fingers. I'd like to ask if they used any kind of surface treatment on it to prevent oxidization on the aluminum.

Great news for everyone invested here. I'm generally down on mining bonds and mining companies in general, but L_R has done a great job at maintaining the value in the company.

The aluminum is undoubtedly a ground, so now you have an aluminum to copper connection, which is guaranteed to oxidize. Like the original H-boards they cheaped out on the fingers, didn't bother with gold; the connections aren't exactly stable.  I know they aren't really meant to be inserted/removed, so gold isn't absolutely required, but it would have eliminated a bunch of issues.  It's a shit ton of work deploying a large mining farm; if plagued with reliability issues it can be a real nightmare.
That's why I was asking, no gold fingers over copper traces can cause some reliability issues, but raw Al is almost certain the cause problems especially over time. That's why you don't see it being used like this normally though it might not be as bad for a ground with the extra redundancy of all the extra contacts. There are things you probably do to reduce those effects though, like do a nickel plating over the Aluminum. In the quantities they're looking it probably wouldn't even be that expensive.

Still, it's a really interesting design especially given how the Bitfury chips can be run straight off 12V.
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