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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 15, 2020, 06:34:10 PM

After all, the new normal era is one step to restore the economy and ew the new normal it is at least the casino can still operate by implementing the recommended health protocol and I think it can still be done and thedfvfevre is no need to do rapid and swab tests.

You are right. New normal is the only solution for now because people won't survive if they have no foods, no money, and no activities outside. Not all people can work from home, some of them only can work on outside such as taxi drivers, peddlers, etc. New normal deserves to try but I don't think that we must ignore rapid and swab tests. Those tests are still needed because it is the way to prevents Coronavirus spreads.

With the new normal, I see people feel free to do whatever they want, including not wearing a mask in the public area. I don't know what they think, but that is not advisable because they can get infected or infect other people if they have the virus. The important thing is we can always take care of our health from anything, including washing our hands after we do something so we can make sure that we are clean. We hope that we can stay healthy in this new normal while we are still waiting for the government and scientists to work to get the vaccine.

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After all, the new normal era is one step to restore the economy and ew the new normal it is at least the casino can still operate by implementing the recommended health protocol and I think it can still be done and thedfvfevre is no need to do rapid and swab tests.

You are right. New normal is the only solution for now because people won't survive if they have no foods, no money, and no activities outside. Not all people can work from home, some of them only can work on outside such as taxi drivers, peddlers, etc. New normal deserves to try but I don't think that we must ignore rapid and swab tests. Those tests are still needed because it is the way to prevents Coronavirus spreads.

We need to live with it now, since we can't be home quarantined for long especially that vaccines were not yet available, we need to do is to deal with it and resource the safest way to work in comfort of our home or outside by doing precaution measures to keep us safe. Las Vegas casino needs to adopt or provide advanced ways to implement safety and social distancing to continue their work and for their employees for better service they need to be test. Here in my country some companies need their employees to be test first and they provide room or house near work area for them to stay in the mean time so their test will not be wasted.

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Quote from: Golftech on July 15, 2020, 03:03:35 PM

After all, the new normal era is one step to restore the economy and ew the new normal it is at least the casino can still operate by implementing the recommended health protocol and I think it can still be done and thedfvfevre is no need to do rapid and swab tests.

You are right. New normal is the only solution for now because people won't survive if they have no foods, no money, and no activities outside. Not all people can work from home, some of them only can work on outside such as taxi drivers, peddlers, etc. New normal deserves to try but I don't think that we must ignore rapid and swab tests. Those tests are still needed because it is the way to prevents Coronavirus spreads.

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Why taking the risk if you can also enjoy the same game while playing inside the comfort of your house. Wisely choice to play online as you are
literally avoiding the spread to hit you up.

For us just lurking infront of our desk to play online gambling, you won't understand the feeling of those people who still wants to play in physical casinos despite of the pandemic virus that the world is facing right now.

These people already knows the risks so let them do what they want since after all casinos are now allowed to resume business. Even staying at home and following all safety measures, you will just be surprise that you might already have the virus.

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Different people have difference of opinion about the pandemic caused around the globe. Some people term it as a real danger, whereas some mention it as simple as fever. For some reason it's been exaggerated, I don't know what's the truth. From my understanding based on the physical strength the seriousness is being felt on the body. In my country more young people lost their lives without any symptoms, which is little fearful.

It is the place where a huge volume of fund gets circulated. Every country is in the urge to recover the economic crash that's been experienced over the last few months due to continued shut down. However it is one's own responsibility to take care of the life so that can enjoy casino some other day than losing the life for little happiness.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 15, 2020, 04:06:19 PM

Quote from: bitbunnny on July 15, 2020, 12:41:13 PM

This is not a solution and no country will agree to that. Test are too expensive and if that would be applied for casino visitors then many other businesses could request the same. Besides, like you've said, there is no guarantee that results are fully correct. Self discipline of people and to obey medical recommendations is the key but that is very hard to achieve.

And what is wrong is that each person decides whether to go to him in Las Vegas or not? Whether to risk my health when visiting a casino, I can decide for myself. In the end, mass protests in the United States did not lead to an increase in the number of cases by several orders of magnitude. Therefore, it is unlikely that a visit to the casino will significantly increase the number of patients with coronavirus.

Nobody really knows about it and if it proves there is no spread of the virus or an increase in cases, then why does this virus still exist while when there is activity in the crowd proves there is no visible increase in cases of the spread of the virus. After all, the new normal era is one step to restore the economy and with the new normal it is at least the casino can still operate by implementing the recommended health protocol and I think it can still be done and there is no need to do rapid and swab tests.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on July 15, 2020, 12:41:13 PM

Nobody really knows about it and if it proves there is no spread of the virus or an increase in cases, then why does this virus still exist while when there is activity in the crowd proves there is no visible increase in cases of the spread of the virus. After all, the new normal era is one step to restore the economy and with the new normal it is at least the casino can still operate by implementing the recommended health protocol and I think it can still be done and there is no need to do rapid and swab tests.

There will be no spread possibly for just a while. But I'm guessing that there will be huge number of infected case soon as people start to come in again.
I'm not hoping for the worse but as the economy turns back, this is likely but hopefully things will not be like that and goes smooth. I hope those people that will coming in will take care of themselves and won't only depend to the safety that the premises will apply.

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This is not a solution and no country will agree to that. Test are too expensive and if that would be applied for casino visitors then many other businesses could request the same. Besides, like you've said, there is no guarantee that results are fully correct. Self discipline of people and to obey medical recommendations is the key but that is very hard to achieve.

And what is wrong is that each person decides whether to go to him in Las Vegas or not? Whether to risk my health when visiting a casino, I can decide for myself. In the end, mass protests in the United States did not lead to an increase in the number of cases by several orders of magnitude. Therefore, it is unlikely that a visit to the casino will significantly increase the number of patients with coronavirus.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 15, 2020, 07:36:49 AM

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I don't think that the casinos will make this as a requirement though. They'd rather just use the thermal scanner and check their temperatures and if they passed, they go inside.
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It's the simplest way to check as it's also being done to every establishments that being allowed to resumed business. Casino will follow
this with strict rules with social distancing, facemask and everything that included from how the government requires them.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 15, 2020, 07:36:49 AM

I saw on the internet how the people are taking a swab test and I only watched it once and I will not do it again. Imagining putting a long stick kinda thing into your nose :X. If I'm the gambler, I'd rather gamble online than going to a casino. Less hassle, safer and you will not undergo swab tests anymore Cheesy

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 15, 2020, 06:38:07 AM

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If I remember swab test will take atleast few hours to get the result and it is much expensive test kit needed to do that so it is not actually possible to swab test every person enters into the casino and also social distancing will not be possible in any casinos so government should allow the casinos to work even if they know it will result into spread just for economy gain or they should completely close it.

Is this even practical? Labs are overwhelmed and they should be rather testing those individuals who are showing active symptoms of COVID 19, rather than wasting their time on people who visit casinos. And another thing is that these tests are not 100% accurate. Here in India, there have been cases of individuals with symptoms testing negative during the first test and later testing positive.

This is not a solution and no country will agree to that. Test are too expensive and if that would be applied for casino visitors then many other businesses could request the same. Besides, like you've said, there is no guarantee that results are fully correct. Self discipline of people and to obey medical recommendations is the key but that is very hard to achieve.

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How much would be the cost for every swab test? I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

I don't think that the casinos will make this as a requirement though. They'd rather just use the thermal scanner and check their temperatures and if they passed, they go inside.

I saw on the internet how the people are taking a swab test and I only watched it once and I will not do it again. Imagining putting a long stick kinda thing into your nose :X. If I'm the gambler, I'd rather gamble online than going to a casino. Less hassle, safer and you will not undergo swab tests anymore Cheesy

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 15, 2020, 04:36:25 AM

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If we say expensive, do we have an estimated amount for that? I think not all of us has the same financial status, some can surely afford and some can't so those who can afford will only be given a chance to enjoy inside the casino, how was that?

AFAIK the cost of test will be more than $100 for sure but its not about the expensive or financial status, do you think it is really possible to test all the people enters into the casino? They have to wait for lot of hours before entering into the casinos to find whether they have been infected or free from the virus.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 15, 2020, 06:38:07 AM

If I remember swab test will take atleast few hours to get the result and it is much expensive test kit needed to do that so it is not actually possible to swab test every person enters into the casino and also social distancing will not be possible in any casinos so government should allow the casinos to work even if they know it will result into spread just for economy gain or they should completely close it.

Is this even practical? Labs are overwhelmed and they should be rather testing those individuals who are showing active symptoms of COVID 19, rather than wasting their time on people who visit casinos. And another thing is that these tests are not 100% accurate. Here in India, there have been cases of individuals with symptoms testing negative during the first test and later testing positive.

actually in our days now it is not the symptoms are important instead mass testing is what we need because lots of cases now that those positive in Covid shows no symptoms .

so yeah i think people in casino must be testing also but with expense from the gambling operators.

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If I remember swab test will take atleast few hours to get the result and it is much expensive test kit needed to do that so it is not actually possible to swab test every person enters into the casino and also social distancing will not be possible in any casinos so government should allow the casinos to work even if they know it will result into spread just for economy gain or they should completely close it.

Is this even practical? Labs are overwhelmed and they should be rather testing those individuals who are showing active symptoms of COVID 19, rather than wasting their time on people who visit casinos. And another thing is that these tests are not 100% accurate. Here in India, there have been cases of individuals with symptoms testing negative during the first test and later testing positive.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on July 14, 2020, 06:01:17 PM

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For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Swab test is necessary if your place was in the high virus-infected record, but if the place that has flatten curve record of virus-infected and if they are in a modified general quarantine level, so this is a case to case basis. Thermal testing and proper guidelines for sanitation or disinfectant will be fine.

Though it is risky for gamblers to do this, I guess if they really want to they will find ways just to gamble.

If I remember swab test will take atleast few hours to get the result and it is much expensive test kit needed to do that so it is not actually possible to swab test every person enters into the casino and also social distancing will not be possible in any casinos so government should allow the casinos to work even if they know it will result into spread just for economy gain or they should completely close it.

If we say expensive, do we have an estimated amount for that? I think not all of us has the same financial status, some can surely afford and some can't so those who can afford will only be given a chance to enjoy inside the casino, how was that?

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 27, 2020, 12:39:45 AM

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Swab test is necessary if your place was in the high virus-infected record, but if the place that has flatten curve record of virus-infected and if they are in a modified general quarantine level, so this is a case to case basis. Thermal testing and proper guidelines for sanitation or disinfectant will be fine.

Though it is risky for gamblers to do this, I guess if they really want to they will find ways just to gamble.

If I remember swab test will take atleast few hours to get the result and it is much expensive test kit needed to do that so it is not actually possible to swab test every person enters into the casino and also social distancing will not be possible in any casinos so government should allow the casinos to work even if they know it will result into spread just for economy gain or they should completely close it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 26, 2020, 05:32:55 AM

I want to share this article:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/las-vegas-strip-to-come-back-with-differences-analysts-say-2009472/

Seems experts vary on their opinions as with regards to Las Vegas opening. And I'm not familiar that there are Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 as far as business in Vegas. So casinos are tag as Phase 1 that's why they are the first to re-open. And maybe it will be under observation until the next Phase are implemented like strips and restaurants.

If they are planning to reopen casinos, they surely need a concrete plan on how to implement those protocols for the safety of workers and gamblers. I think casinos are part of those businesses who will reopen first because casinos are popular and it's one of the major businesses in Las Vegas.

I checked the link you gave, and there's a short interview regarding people's opinions about mandating facemask. I don't really get why some don't want to wear face masks when it's for everyone's safety. There's always a lot of people in Las Vegas and it makes it more dangerous, yet some of them don't want wearing a facemask.

It's going to be a slow and long process before we can see all businesses in Vegas being open in public But obviously, casino will be the first one as it will generate the needed money to keep Las Vegas economy up again. I also don't understand why there are people who are against wearing mask. Perhaps they think that it won't improve their chance of getting infected. But at least you have this sort of first line of defence against a spread.

Casinos and gambling industry are indeed important to Las Vegas since it provides huge tax revenue that is essential in their economy. However, if people would still refuse to follow simple protocols such as wearing face masks, I don't think they can last for a long time operating casinos while people still don't wear masks at public places.

Before they plan on reopening casinos, they should encourage their people as well as foreigners to wear face masks for safety.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 02:25:49 AM

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Swab test is necessary if your place was in the high virus-infected record, but if the place that has flatten curve record of virus-infected and if they are in a modified general quarantine level, so this is a case to case basis. Thermal testing and proper guidelines for sanitation or disinfectant will be fine.

Though it is risky for gamblers to do this, I guess if they really want to they will find ways just to gamble.

It may be inconvenient and a lot of work to do a swab test for gamblers but they still should follow what is need to do. It's for their own safety, to ensure that it is safe to gamble there and to know whether you are safe from the virus.

But I don't think all casinos would do swab testing since it will take a lot of time and work. Perhaps, like what you said. Thermal scanning and disinfecting before entering the facility is enough.

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Quote from: maydna on July 14, 2020, 01:42:17 AM

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I guess every casinos as long as they have the licensed and they follow the protocol has to be allowed to operate, the resumption of businesses especially for casinos are for everyone as the small ones are the ones who suffers the most, so the government should not choose.

Maybe the attention was only centered with Las Vegas Casinos since they are the most popular, biggest tax contributor but everyone must be given a chance to start earning again. I'm sure the model will be the same for all casinos as they have the same operation, social distancing and wearing of mask are too basic ,so I don't think it will not be followed easily.

Following the protocols is for their safety, and that is why they must do what it needs. Perhaps, the government doesn't have to permit the small casino if they cannot follow the procedure and only give it to the big casino.

I am sure that if Las Vegas Casino can succeed to reopen their business, the local government will have revenue from the gambling business. Although the income is not higher yet, it will become bigger if many casinos in that city want to start their business too. Even if wearing a mask is the primary thing that people should use, not all people in the road or public are still use it. It seems, they think that the situations now is under control, but the reality, the government, the doctor, and the scientist still fight the virus without stop.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 05:22:13 PM

I think these people who can afford to go in a casino can also afford to pay for the cost, this is for the safety of people inside the casinos, so it doesn't matter if it's costly as stopping the casino operations just because a carrier has entered the place and infected the people inside is even more costly.

A simple statement. If only it's easy to do as it says.

For a gambler's mindset, why should they undergo a swab test just for the purpose to enter the casino? If I'm a gambler I'd rather find other casinos with no restrictions like that unless I'm a die-hard player of the said casino. It's no different from other establishments wherein there is no need for a test.

Again, I'm with the idea but I will give a 0% chance for that to be implemented or even considered.

I think testing people for the presence of elevated temperature is sufficient. It is sick people in the active phase of infection that pose the greatest danger.
It is impossible to secure the casino 100%. Even passing additional tests will not protect the casino from the virus on clothes, money, or food. Therefore, those who want to take a risk - let them play, those who are afraid - let them sit at home and look out the Windows.

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