Topic: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. - page 27. (Read 4633 times)

It is true, that's why the vaccine is really needed to stop the pandemic. Once the vaccine is ready in all countries in the world, then it is the end of the pandemic. All people can be cured by the vaccine and Covid-19 isn't a nightmare anymore.

How do you know it will be ready in September? Do you read a valid article or news?
I am not sure that the vaccine will be ready in all the countries in the world in the next 3 months. I think it will take more time and likely be ready at the end of this year or even the next year. But yeah, who knows it will be ready faster. 

Surely they would go to the option 2, it might be a hard decision but it really need to because it wont really be that sustaining even for how many months.Lets talk about first world countries

yes, they can provide needs for several months but it wont really be like forever.Therefore, they would need to take up to that kind of decision.Its risking lives but they dont have any other options left.

Vaccine wont be available in short time basis thats why we should really protect ourselves on not to be infected specially to those people who do go to work for the sake of their needs.

Therefore, you need to drop all fears and start working. It will not be easy to catch up. We must understand that it will be difficult to completely defeat the virus.


It is completely impossible to cure a person of the virus. You can only treat the consequences and complications caused by it. Only the human immune system can fight the virus.
In order for the immune system to be strong against the virus, a person needs to be vaccinated. Now vaccinations are being developed in several countries and I think they will be ready by September.

This is why it is so difficult to solve the pandemic, in a perfect world everyone will have a few months worth of savings and even if they are fired this should be no cause of concern as they could keep paying their bills and the pandemic will be over before we know it, but this is not the case obviously, people need to work and many are living day to day so the closure of so many business is affecting them greatly and they need to get back to work, this leaves governments in a difficult position, do they prioritize the health of their citizens regardless of the cost? Or do they open the economy assuming the risks this will bring?

It is called as "Asymptomatic Condition" wherein there is no signs of COVID-19 to the patient but it he can be a carrier. It can also be detected by swabbing but the person itself does not know he already acquired it.
COVID-19 is a battle of immune system, that is why it is advisable only to stay at home. Do not gamble for two months is better than becoming an ash. Do not risk your own life and family because of greediness to play.

Even Las Vegas opens

Exactly, there is no guarantee that we will find vaccine or cure that will be fully effective against the virus.And we can't wait for vaccine to be discoverd so that we continue with our lives. There are hundreds of different illnesses that can affect us and many of then worse than virus, like cancer, but we can't live in constant fear
Life and businesses need to continue and that applies to casinos too.

I think you don't realize that an infected person can infect another person just by being in contact or even indirect contact with the infected person. the government doesn't just force young people to stay at their home because they can possibly die of the virus but because you could infect other people and further spread the virus which could reach people isn't healthy enough to fight the virus. the opening of las vegas during this pandemic will just increase the rate of someone getting infected and spreading it.

what a selfish statement

I would not suggested this for anyone who is human. This has affected both the young and the old, it doesn't select by age or color but everything that is human with breath. Let assume  it doesn't affect the younger ones, but the younger ones live with their parents who are old, don't you think it's a way of spreading the disease?. Though, opening up the casino will help solve the problem of hunger in the land, but life could be at risk also which is Paramount.

In that case, the Covid19 Crisis will extend up to more than a year until a pharm can create a vaccine that they can sell while the economy is down.

This virus won't be easy to kill because of the mutation they develop to each patient. There was an article I found that the virus will mutate depending on how healthy the person is. If a person has lung problems, the virus will attack the respiratory system. The healthy are the ones who are asymptomatic patients.

There is some truth in what deisik posted. It is not that easy to create vaccines against viruses, because they mutate very often. As a result of this, you may not get a vaccine that is 100% effective. And it needs to be remembered that the COVID 19 virus is having different strains. A particular vaccine, which works against one strain, may not be useful against another virus strain. That means that you need to go for multiple vaccinations if you want protection and even then it may not be 100% effective.

Minor point, but HIV / AIDS really does not kill you it just decimates your immune system to the point that just about anything else kills you.

Back to gambling, most people I know and yes that is a small group have all said the same thing, it's not really not just the casino crowds that are going to keep them away.
It's getting to them. Airport, flight, etc. They are more concerned about that then what happens in Vegas itself. As one friend put it, "I can get up and walk out the door of a casino that I feel is not doing enough to keep me safe. Delta gets really upset if I open the door and walk out. But, no matter what till numbers level off and we have a better handle on it" So 1st we have to figure out how to get there safely in a metal tube and then we have to figure out how to control the spread a bit more.

I am seeing it here with restaurants starting to open. There are some people who don't care and will pack a place because its open, and there are others who will keep going and shop / eat / drink elsewhere.

Dave's totally rude and non politically correct opinion. There are 4 types of people I have seen in casinos so far.

1) Young people just old enough to gamble / get in. They think this will not effect them. This has nothing to do with the virus or anything else. As a rule that group will always act like that in most situations.

2) Compulsive gamblers, sadly it's an addiction / disease with them so they are going. From what I have heard from the people I know who work at casinos they have been removing self excluded / problem gamblers at a much higher rate then normal because they all came flooding back and they can't hide in the crowds of others

3) Really old people. Seems harsh and I was surprised at this group but from what I have seen on TV, they are past the point of caring. It's the "I'm 87 years old, so what if I die" And that was quote on a news clip, a bunch of old people that are rally just 1 step away from giving up.

4) The people who think they are immune / the virus is a hoax / the uneducated. Just people who don't understand how it works. Yeah, there are a lot of them.

But within the small group of people I know and the much larger group of friends of friends who gamble and spend time on gambling discussion boards, for the most part they are all stating away as was said above due to air travel and the lack of controlled spread of the virus.

So no matter what, stay safe out there everyone.

-Dave

 

New flu vaccines are developed every year

But their effectiveness is still a matter of luck to a significant degree. It is just the nature of the virus (actually, a wide variety of viruses) which is extremely mutable. It doesn't mean that there can't or won't be a vaccine for a specific strain of the Covid-19 virus. But when it is created, it could already be too late as the virus would have mutated into a completely different (read, new) strain no longer vulnerable to this vaccine. Covid-19 is only one of the many thousand viruses of the same group that somehow turned much more lethal than the others. Just in case, people don't die from the virus itself. Even in the case of rabies or HIV, the most lethal viruses out there (nearly 100% mortality rate if not diagnosed and treated in time), people don't die from the virus as such

Although there is no vaccine available at the moment for covid-19, this does not mean that there will no vaccine forever. Scientist and medical staffs are constantly working to develop a vaccine for it. I am sure soon someone will be successful and produce a life saving drug.

The sad truth is that most such viruses have no vaccines

And probably will never have for the simple reason that they are too mutable, up to a point where creation of a vaccine becomes an exercise in futility. So it all comes down to an organism versus a virus, and developing a lasting immunity after the encounter. However, the good news is that these types usually become less lethal over time as natural selection works against their lethality and deadliness. If a virus is too lethal, it kills its host too fast and itself as a result, thus the evolution pressures for more benign strains

I am sure that in the fall there will be a second wave, since this is the time of the spread of flu and other respiratory diseases and this is inevitable, unfortunately.

All we can do is follow the recommendations and take care of the state of our immune system.

Covid-19 is different from other diseases and virus because there is no treatment discovered yet for this virus. That's why people are more cautious about it because if there is no vaccine,  there are more chances of losing life as we are witnessing these days. Even if places like Las Vegas Casinos are opened, people should avoid visiting them at present.

life must Move on now,we have been slowed By this Covid Virus and the world suffers a lot,There are ways how to depend our self from this pandemic so lets do it and go our ways.
The world now starts to open their  roads again,letting people do their business so why not in Gambling that has the highest profit government has.



Thats why Social distancing is very need now,it doesn't mean that there are infected we need to go away every time,what we need is distance and stay safe.



Thats it,let the sick stays at home and the healthy be on business.

Every day, our body is attacked by dozens of different viruses and bacteria. If a person is constantly afraid of this, then he needs to live in isolated rooms from the other world.
We are all different. Someone is very afraid of the danger of infection, someone does not care about it. Everyone has the right to make their own choice. If I'm healthy and want to go to Las Vegas, no one can stop me. It is my right to put myself at risk of infection or not.

There are people that doesnt show off symptoms thats why they cant detect if they are already infected or not and still go to places that they do like to visit on ex. these casinos.

pointing it out would really be hard this is why its still risky to go up to these places because thermal scanners and alcohol wont really be enough to get rid of the virus and once a certain infected person able to go inside then

potentially all of those people will really have the risk on getting infected specially these kind of places are isolated or closed on when no proper ventilation or shall we say its airconditioned.

People would really need to work for them to have some money to spend but majority will surely consider on prioritizing things up like needs for them to survive rather than prioritizing on playing gambling.

What proof do you have that it's covid19 that killed them and not asthma, cancer or whatever else they had going on at the same time?
Take a look at this
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105061/coronavirus-deaths-by-region-in-italy/

Out of 237 thousand cases there were 4 deaths of children and no teenagers. Only 15 people age 20-29 have died. The same numbers can be found if you compare this to seasonal flu statistics.