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Juventus is taking the steps for consolidating the squad. Motta's arrival might really be positive unlike the people who are doubtful about him. Because he looks determined to turn this team into a stronger one like in the old days.

Transfers so far:

A lot more is going to be coming on next days surely. Because they are aiming to revolutionize the squad. There are so many players to be sold this summer as long as they find teams that are keen on paying the asked fee.

If Juventus has a good transfer window I will be expecting them to be more competitive for a Serie A trophy next season. It is hard to fight Inter till the end but not impossible.

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Quote from: giammangiato on July 12, 2024, 11:33:06 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on July 11, 2024, 03:33:56 PM

I agree with you, taking away a few good players who will be 4-5 at most, we have no top players. The level of Italian footballers has dropped drastically, and the fact that for two world championships we were not present is clear proof of that. Three years ago we won a European Championship as miracles, but at least we had some players who made the difference, like Chiellini and Bonucci, but now there is an absolute desert in the team. Italian teams should bet more on Italian players if we do not really want to become the poorest national football team of all

Here is my dearest Inter fan friend back to show himself. Yes, the level dropped drastically, I went to watch the 2006 videos on YouTube with a tear.
I don't know at the time it seemed like we were playing as a team, that the players cared about their shirt. Today really nothing, not even sorry they said (only Donnarumma) how sad.

Let's not forget that Donnarumma has been heavily criticised for quite some time, held responsible for our national team's failures. Instead of criticising Donnarumma, no one has ever said a word about why we haven't had a good striker for at least ten years. Anyway, yes, I do turn up from time to time, when I have time of course

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Quote from: giammangiato on July 12, 2024, 11:33:06 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on July 11, 2024, 03:33:56 PM

I agree with you, taking away a few good players who will be 4-5 at most, we have no top players. The level of Italian footballers has dropped drastically, and the fact that for two world championships we were not present is clear proof of that. Three years ago we won a European Championship as miracles, but at least we had some players who made the difference, like Chiellini and Bonucci, but now there is an absolute desert in the team. Italian teams should bet more on Italian players if we do not really want to become the poorest national football team of all

Here is my dearest Inter fan friend back to show himself. Yes, the level dropped drastically, I went to watch the 2006 videos on YouTube with a tear.
I don't know at the time it seemed like we were playing as a team, that the players cared about their shirt. Today really nothing, not even sorry they said (only Donnarumma) how sad.

Currently, when you watch La Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A games, you don't see great Italian players as highlights in these big leagues, all you see are players from other countries, the saddest thing is that even in Serie A, the The best players are foreigners, at Inter for example the best strikers are foreigners, such as Lautaro Martinez who is Argentine, in Roma we have Dybala who is Argentine, in Milan there is Rafael Leao who is from Portugal, in Napoli we have Victor Osimhen who is Nigerian. At Juventus we have Dušan Vlahović who is from Serbia. So when the Italian national team plays, it's unlikely they will have a good squad. while other national teams such as England, France, Germany and Portugal have a good squad because all the players are in good positions in the big teams

In my opinion, it should be important to encourage Italian players to also go and play in other European countries so that they can stand out there and with that Italy would once again have a national team made up of good players, let's look at the case of Belgium for example, the The Belgian league is not better than Serie A, but the Belgian squad is better than the Italian squad.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on July 11, 2024, 03:33:56 PM

I agree with you, taking away a few good players who will be 4-5 at most, we have no top players. The level of Italian footballers has dropped drastically, and the fact that for two world championships we were not present is clear proof of that. Three years ago we won a European Championship as miracles, but at least we had some players who made the difference, like Chiellini and Bonucci, but now there is an absolute desert in the team. Italian teams should bet more on Italian players if we do not really want to become the poorest national football team of all

Here is my dearest Inter fan friend back to show himself. Yes, the level dropped drastically, I went to watch the 2006 videos on YouTube with a tear.
I don't know at the time it seemed like we were playing as a team, that the players cared about their shirt. Today really nothing, not even sorry they said (only Donnarumma) how sad.

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Quote from: bangjoe on July 11, 2024, 11:04:46 AM

There is always a way to change a condition, especially since some people must have realized the bad situation among you, maybe it will build a movement that will have a good impact on the Italian league, the seeds that are planted must be fertilized very well so that the regeneration is stronger and greater, that's what I always believe in a generational awakening, but if it is too ignored and does not make it interesting, this will be a disaster and could be a fatal setback in the development of the football industry in Italy.

It's not something you can change in one or two years.
If you have to develop players, I'm not telling you that it takes 10 years, but at least four years are necessary to give them a good base of experience.
It takes time and if we continue to let foreigners play (for no reason, we have the good ones too) then we will never move forward.

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Quote from: bangjoe on July 11, 2024, 11:04:46 AM

Quote from: bastisisca on July 11, 2024, 10:45:45 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on July 10, 2024, 10:19:05 AM

Italy has many talents, promising young people who fail to break through, for many reasons. Let's say that in my opinion there are waves, for a series of years we were at the top.
Now are the years in which we are not at the top, but the wheel will still turn I'm sure.
We need to grit our teeth and move forward.
I am happy that Juventus took De Gregorio!

Apart from three or four players I don't see these great talents in Italy, and unfortunately let's say five? You can't build a team with good players, a little like Portugal who have just those few champions.
Now if they want to understand this problem at league level they should oblige to have a number of young Italian players present in the squad if they don't want to do so we will continue towards the decline.

There is always a way to change a condition, especially since some people must have realized the bad situation among you, maybe it will build a movement that will have a good impact on the Italian league, the seeds that are planted must be fertilized very well so that the regeneration is stronger and greater, that's what I always believe in a generational awakening, but if it is too ignored and does not make it interesting, this will be a disaster and could be a fatal setback in the development of the football industry in Italy.

The nurturing of talented young players and coaching initiatives is crucial. Yet, it must be accurately handled if we wish to see the phoenix of a new footballing generation rise stronger and grander. It is indeed the key to the evolution of Italian football, an endeavor I passionately believe, if undertaken with due diligence and planning, can lead us into considerable prosperity. But allowing this aspect to luck's whim, mismanaging it, would be calamitous. Ill-favored circumstances could deal a mortal blow back to the Italian football industry; a loss in young talent, a dearth in quality competition, waning interest from spectators and sponsors... These harbingers spell doom for the sport's future on Italian soil. A disaster looms unless we take action.

Thus, a proactive involvement in the construction and development of the Italian League by all stakeholders, clubs, players, coaches, fans, and league management, is crucial. Let us together show this commitment. Let us promise our cooperative effort to maintain it: such that we guarantee, not just the sustenance of the Italian League, but its growth and evolution into one of the finest leagues globally.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 11, 2024, 10:45:45 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on July 10, 2024, 10:19:05 AM

Italy has many talents, promising young people who fail to break through, for many reasons. Let's say that in my opinion there are waves, for a series of years we were at the top.
Now are the years in which we are not at the top, but the wheel will still turn I'm sure.
We need to grit our teeth and move forward.
I am happy that Juventus took De Gregorio!

Apart from three or four players I don't see these great talents in Italy, and unfortunately let's say five? You can't build a team with good players, a little like Portugal who have just those few champions.
Now if they want to understand this problem at league level they should oblige to have a number of young Italian players present in the squad if they don't want to do so we will continue towards the decline.

I agree with you, taking away a few good players who will be 4-5 at most, we have no top players. The level of Italian footballers has dropped drastically, and the fact that for two world championships we were not present is clear proof of that. Three years ago we won a European Championship as miracles, but at least we had some players who made the difference, like Chiellini and Bonucci, but now there is an absolute desert in the team. Italian teams should bet more on Italian players if we do not really want to become the poorest national football team of all

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 11, 2024, 10:45:45 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on July 10, 2024, 10:19:05 AM

Italy has many talents, promising young people who fail to break through, for many reasons. Let's say that in my opinion there are waves, for a series of years we were at the top.
Now are the years in which we are not at the top, but the wheel will still turn I'm sure.
We need to grit our teeth and move forward.
I am happy that Juventus took De Gregorio!

Apart from three or four players I don't see these great talents in Italy, and unfortunately let's say five? You can't build a team with good players, a little like Portugal who have just those few champions.
Now if they want to understand this problem at league level they should oblige to have a number of young Italian players present in the squad if they don't want to do so we will continue towards the decline.

There is always a way to change a condition, especially since some people must have realized the bad situation among you, maybe it will build a movement that will have a good impact on the Italian league, the seeds that are planted must be fertilized very well so that the regeneration is stronger and greater, that's what I always believe in a generational awakening, but if it is too ignored and does not make it interesting, this will be a disaster and could be a fatal setback in the development of the football industry in Italy.

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Quote from: giammangiato on July 10, 2024, 10:19:05 AM

Italy has many talents, promising young people who fail to break through, for many reasons. Let's say that in my opinion there are waves, for a series of years we were at the top.
Now are the years in which we are not at the top, but the wheel will still turn I'm sure.
We need to grit our teeth and move forward.
I am happy that Juventus took De Gregorio!

Apart from three or four players I don't see these great talents in Italy, and unfortunately let's say five? You can't build a team with good players, a little like Portugal who have just those few champions.
Now if they want to understand this problem at league level they should oblige to have a number of young Italian players present in the squad if they don't want to do so we will continue towards the decline.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 09, 2024, 12:01:20 PM

Italy has a lot of talent, I think they have to go back to the basics, go for those players who are on the streets, in the clubs, who are being trained, the children, the young people, right now in Brazil there is a big concern about that, because they say that Children and young people are not interested in football, because they only want to be on a phone, I think that has affected not only Brazil, I think in Italy and in many places in the world, Italy for me is a school where you always learn about football, they still maintain their strong point which is the Italian defense, but they have to work on offensive football, there are offensive players, but they have to bring them and focus them on scoring goals, it is as basic as that.

Italy has many talents, promising young people who fail to break through, for many reasons. Let's say that in my opinion there are waves, for a series of years we were at the top.
Now are the years in which we are not at the top, but the wheel will still turn I'm sure.
We need to grit our teeth and move forward.
I am happy that Juventus took De Gregorio!

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 09, 2024, 12:01:20 PM

Italy has a lot of talent, I think they have to go back to the basics, go for those players who are on the streets, in the clubs, who are being trained, the children, the young people, right now in Brazil there is a big concern about that, because they say that Children and young people are not interested in football, because they only want to be on a phone, I think that has affected not only Brazil, I think in Italy and in many places in the world, Italy for me is a school where you always learn about football, they still maintain their strong point which is the Italian defense, but they have to work on offensive football, there are offensive players, but they have to bring them and focus them on scoring goals, it is as basic as that.

Italy has many young people who love playing football, but you become a talent if someone raises you, trains you and makes you grow.
If no team does that, you simply remain raw and therefore useless from that point of view, honestly.
It's not just me saying this, the statistics say it, Italy has been missing from international competitions for many years.

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Quote from: boltz on July 05, 2024, 10:29:59 AM

Yep. Juventus might struggle again this season to win the Scudetto and this is because they don't have young talents anymore and I really don't know if they have the budget to make big transfers during this summer and this might hurt them because the other top 4 teams do have budget for transfers but also have young talents within their squads. Personally I really hope Lazio can finally win Serie A and make a lot of fans happy not only in italy but across the world as well. Cool

I agree. While Inter are this strong and Napoli are also taking big steps by bringing Conte, it is really difficult for Juventus surely. Sad

But even if Juventus stay in the title race until the last weeks, I think it would be a good improvement. This is what they can't even do for a while in the end, right? They are just giving up pretty early on their title run.

Motta is a rising manager after what he has done with Bologna. I just hope Juventus chairman becomes patient with him.

Motta hasn't managed a big team yet but he should be given a chance at least for 2-3 years if he can't make it in his 1st season.

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Quote from: giammangiato on July 09, 2024, 09:24:07 AM

Quote from: bastisisca on July 05, 2024, 08:49:05 AM

Unfortunately we have not invested in young people and as a result we find ourselves in this terrible situation. We don't have talents and we don't develop them, talents need to grow.
Talents need to play, make mistakes and gain experience.
There are no immediate solutions.

Very true, we haven't invested in young people and unfortunately this has been our biggest fault.
We should all follow the example of Atalanta which has truly trained many young players over the years and has also sold many of them, a team to be admired from this point of view.
In fact, I'm happy that Juventus bought De Gregorio.

Investing in young players is not easy, I think some teams are worried about excessive team spending and time because developing young players will always take long time and of course in some season these players will definitely not be able to make big contribution to the team.
Maybe can take young players who have clear potential for good playing skills, but this has to be with great support because young players whose potential is already visible will have high price and I think all of this is the reason some team are not so brave enough to invest in players young.
It can be seen that Serie A used to be the birthplace of many football stars and they were all players who developed here, but now everything has changed, almost all team from various big leagues are starting to look at and take over potential young players.

Talking about De Gregorio with Juventus, this is actually not that interesting because basically Juventus doesn't really need De Gregorio, I would be much happier if Juventus could bring in young players in midfielder or striker positions.
That way there will be far more dominant benefits for Juventus.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 05, 2024, 08:49:05 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 03, 2024, 04:48:53 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 02, 2024, 10:30:28 AM

Yes indeed, the Italian national team is still not good and thus, it is indeed the right time at least the teams in Serie A can maximize the potential of the Italian national team players. Because thus, it will certainly make the quality of the Italian national team will also be better and of course to improve their quality.

I agree with what you say, because here they showed a clearly Italian style of football, I can't deny that Italian football is always very good , interesting and always offers many things, but I think that Italy was also unlucky and did not have the best of its performances , I think that Italy's mistake was always not going on the attack, only handling a very defensive system, and that tends to be boring, because you don't see a picturesque football, so when they insist on playing more focused on attacking they shine.

Unfortunately we have not invested in young people and as a result we find ourselves in this terrible situation. We don't have talents and we don't develop them, talents need to grow.
Talents need to play, make mistakes and gain experience.
There are no immediate solutions.

Italy has a lot of talent, I think they have to go back to the basics, go for those players who are on the streets, in the clubs, who are being trained, the children, the young people, right now in Brazil there is a big concern about that, because they say that Children and young people are not interested in football, because they only want to be on a phone, I think that has affected not only Brazil, I think in Italy and in many places in the world, Italy for me is a school where you always learn about football, they still maintain their strong point which is the Italian defense, but they have to work on offensive football, there are offensive players, but they have to bring them and focus them on scoring goals, it is as basic as that.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 05, 2024, 08:49:05 AM

Unfortunately we have not invested in young people and as a result we find ourselves in this terrible situation. We don't have talents and we don't develop them, talents need to grow.
Talents need to play, make mistakes and gain experience.
There are no immediate solutions.

Very true, we haven't invested in young people and unfortunately this has been our biggest fault.
We should all follow the example of Atalanta which has truly trained many young players over the years and has also sold many of them, a team to be admired from this point of view.
In fact, I'm happy that Juventus bought De Gregorio.

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Quote from: boltz on July 05, 2024, 10:29:59 AM

Yep. Juventus might struggle again this season to win the Scudetto and this is because they don't have young talents anymore and I really don't know if they have the budget to make big transfers during this summer and this might hurt them because the other top 4 teams do have budget for transfers but also have young talents within their squads. Personally I really hope Lazio can finally win Serie A and make a lot of fans happy not only in italy but across the world as well. Cool

In my opinion, in full and total honesty, they won't do much next season either, in my opinion they are aiming to play as many games as possible in the Champions League in order to make money.
I know I'm a little mean and a little cynical, but without money to spend they can't make big investments, in my opinion, managing to break even.
Let's remember that teams today are like companies.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 05, 2024, 08:49:05 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 03, 2024, 04:48:53 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 02, 2024, 10:30:28 AM

Yes indeed, the Italian national team is still not good and thus, it is indeed the right time at least the teams in Serie A can maximize the potential of the Italian national team players. Because thus, it will certainly make the quality of the Italian national team will also be better and of course to improve their quality.

I agree with what you say, because here they showed a clearly Italian style of football, I can't deny that Italian football is always very good , interesting and always offers many things, but I think that Italy was also unlucky and did not have the best of its performances , I think that Italy's mistake was always not going on the attack, only handling a very defensive system, and that tends to be boring, because you don't see a picturesque football, so when they insist on playing more focused on attacking they shine.

Unfortunately we have not invested in young people and as a result we find ourselves in this terrible situation. We don't have talents and we don't develop them, talents need to grow.
Talents need to play, make mistakes and gain experience.
There are no immediate solutions.

Yep. Juventus might struggle again this season to win the Scudetto and this is because they don't have young talents anymore and I really don't know if they have the budget to make big transfers during this summer and this might hurt them because the other top 4 teams do have budget for transfers but also have young talents within their squads. Personally I really hope Lazio can finally win Serie A and make a lot of fans happy not only in italy but across the world as well. Cool

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 03, 2024, 04:48:53 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 02, 2024, 10:30:28 AM

Yes indeed, the Italian national team is still not good and thus, it is indeed the right time at least the teams in Serie A can maximize the potential of the Italian national team players. Because thus, it will certainly make the quality of the Italian national team will also be better and of course to improve their quality.

I agree with what you say, because here they showed a clearly Italian style of football, I can't deny that Italian football is always very good , interesting and always offers many things, but I think that Italy was also unlucky and did not have the best of its performances , I think that Italy's mistake was always not going on the attack, only handling a very defensive system, and that tends to be boring, because you don't see a picturesque football, so when they insist on playing more focused on attacking they shine.

Unfortunately we have not invested in young people and as a result we find ourselves in this terrible situation. We don't have talents and we don't develop them, talents need to grow.
Talents need to play, make mistakes and gain experience.
There are no immediate solutions.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on July 03, 2024, 04:48:53 PM

I agree with what you say, because here they showed a clearly Italian style of football, I can't deny that Italian football is always very good , interesting and always offers many things, but I think that Italy was also unlucky and did not have the best of its performances , I think that Italy's mistake was always not going on the attack, only handling a very defensive system, and that tends to be boring, because you don't see a picturesque football, so when they insist on playing more focused on attacking they shine.

We didn't attack because we don't have bases to base our attacks on. In fact, the Italian system of playing football is a stratified system, if you like.
You need a good defense first. Then you need a good midfield. Finally, we need good attackers. In short, you need a whole team.
We can't play football based on quick robberies managed by 1 good guy and a mediocre team.

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Quote from: giammangiato on July 04, 2024, 11:24:07 AM

Quote from: bastisisca on July 03, 2024, 10:21:05 AM

Let's just say it really sucked, no problem I'm not the type to get offended.
It almost seemed like they were annoyed or listless, without the tension of playing for the national team.
Truly a terrible figure, it's been years now so we don't even pay attention to it.

At least what we have left is to look at the European. I look at it with hope, hope of finding some young champion who will then end up playing for my Juventus.
Clearly there are those who do it for a living, but consider that I also see something interesting. He would make me proud of my talent.

I didn't really watch it, besides not having time it didn't inspire me at all
I looked at the summaries, those were really fun to watch especially the Italian ones (really funny)
and I have to say that this European championship is truly disappointing
I saved time! Cheesy

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