⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 75.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 30, 2023, 02:20:09 PM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 29, 2023, 03:32:06 PM

the season is now quite compromised but anything can still happen, Napoli would only need to win a direct match to revive the fortunes of their championship, I'll give you an example, currently Napoli are -8 behind leaders Inter but the next match is against them Inter, if they were to win against Inter they would move themselves to -5 from the top and everything can be rewritten. so I'm not convinced to give them up for lost when there are still more than 20 games to go until the end of the championship.

wait wait I am so sorry, but in your opinion, honestly and sincerely, does Napoli have a chance of beating Inter?

We can say if Inter loses against Napoli (because of Inter) then everything changes, of course. Only Inter can lose a championship that they have had in their pocket since the beginning.

The Napoli that I saw last night against Real Madrid could easily beat Inter, obviously as an Inter fan I know that they are much stronger and only they can lose this scudetto, but Inter will play away from home and it will be a tough match and difficult, that's how I see it

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 29, 2023, 03:32:06 PM

the season is now quite compromised but anything can still happen, Napoli would only need to win a direct match to revive the fortunes of their championship, I'll give you an example, currently Napoli are -8 behind leaders Inter but the next match is against them Inter, if they were to win against Inter they would move themselves to -5 from the top and everything can be rewritten. so I'm not convinced to give them up for lost when there are still more than 20 games to go until the end of the championship.

wait wait I am so sorry, but in your opinion, honestly and sincerely, does Napoli have a chance of beating Inter?

We can say if Inter loses against Napoli (because of Inter) then everything changes, of course. Only Inter can lose a championship that they have had in their pocket since the beginning.

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About a back-to-back championship for Napoli I'm afraid I can't talk very positively. It is just really difficult for Napoli to keep up with Inter - Juventus duo. Even let's say Juventus start dropping down from the title challenge I believe that Inter would go for it until the end of the season. Because the way they play give quite much confidence to me about their winning the league title this season.

Napoli could at least start playing better maybe after this manager replacement. I'm not even sure about whether this manager change was really necessary after a short time. Sad

In the end Mazzarri isn't a more successful manager than him on paper.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 29, 2023, 12:33:06 PM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 27, 2023, 06:25:37 AM

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in my opinion Napoli will be able to recover, clearly not this season, which is now obviously disastrous for everyone from every point of view. Next season they will certainly be well energized and happy to want to make the difference that they were unable to make this season. My opinion of course.

Napoli's recent struggles have been disappointing for all their fans and supporters. Sacking a manager after they the league is provenly a big mistake a club ever made. But I believe that they have the potential to bounce back and challenge for trophies in the near future. They have a talented squad with a strong team spirit, and they have shown in the past that they can compete with the best teams in Italy. This needs an ambitious will from the management and the president to invest.

Next season, They will need to keep their key players to stay at the club to maintain their champions mentality in the squad. they will have the added motivation of trying to make amends for their disappointing campaign this season. They will be well-rested and will have a full pre-season to prepare for the new season. I am confident that they will be a force to be reckoned with next year.

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just look at what the bookmakers say, in the end they try to never lose money and certainly price Inter as the winner.
Clearly a defeat for Inter would give an advantage to Juventus and open the championship.
Not to mention that it would give a lot of bargaining power to Mazzarri

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 29, 2023, 12:33:06 PM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 27, 2023, 06:25:37 AM

I don't question Walter Mazzarri's experience, in fact I know very well that he is an excellent coach, my doubt lies in the mentality of the team, will they be able to get out of this unfortunate period and settle into the module proposed by Mazzarri? or was the victory against Atalanta just a lucky coincidence? I want to hope and believe that Napoli with Mazzarri can return to winning ways and fight for a place in the Champions League, and despite this with the 1-1 draw between Juventus and Inter they managed to shorten the distance from first place to 8 points, which are not few but not many either and could also be part of playing for the championship victory

in my opinion Napoli will be able to recover, clearly not this season, which is now obviously disastrous for everyone from every point of view. Next season they will certainly be well energized and happy to want to make the difference that they were unable to make this season. My opinion of course.

the season is now quite compromised but anything can still happen, Napoli would only need to win a direct match to revive the fortunes of their championship, I'll give you an example, currently Napoli are -8 behind leaders Inter but the next match is against them Inter, if they were to win against Inter they would move themselves to -5 from the top and everything can be rewritten. so I'm not convinced to give them up for lost when there are still more than 20 games to go until the end of the championship.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 27, 2023, 06:25:37 AM

I don't question Walter Mazzarri's experience, in fact I know very well that he is an excellent coach, my doubt lies in the mentality of the team, will they be able to get out of this unfortunate period and settle into the module proposed by Mazzarri? or was the victory against Atalanta just a lucky coincidence? I want to hope and believe that Napoli with Mazzarri can return to winning ways and fight for a place in the Champions League, and despite this with the 1-1 draw between Juventus and Inter they managed to shorten the distance from first place to 8 points, which are not few but not many either and could also be part of playing for the championship victory

in my opinion Napoli will be able to recover, clearly not this season, which is now obviously disastrous for everyone from every point of view. Next season they will certainly be well energized and happy to want to make the difference that they were unable to make this season. My opinion of course.

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It looks like Mazzarri knows Napoli very well like it was predicted, as he has history with Napoli. They have a talented squad with a lot of attacking potential. If the Napoli players can quickly adapt to Mazzarri's new system and play together as a unit, they could be a force in Europe. For this goal to achieve, The club owner and board should be ambitious with their plan and investment.

Current Napoli is different to Napoli were managed by Mazzarri before. Now Napoli is a holding Champion who has mentality to compete at the highest level. Mazzarri as an experienced manager who has a proven track records wont have big difficulties to guide Napoli with big project in the future.

That`s exactly the hope, that`s why they called Walter Mazzarri.
The Napoli management hopes that the team and players adapt quickly to Mazzarri`s game in order to contain the damage done by the previous coach. And seems works.

he is certainly avoiding doing further damage, his work must be delicate and surgical, he must hit the broken parts and try to make them work, at least until the end of the season
After that it's no longer his problem
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Quote from: arimamib on November 26, 2023, 10:12:06 PM

It looks like Mazzarri knows Napoli very well like it was predicted, as he has history with Napoli. They have a talented squad with a lot of attacking potential. If the Napoli players can quickly adapt to Mazzarri's new system and play together as a unit, they could be a force in Europe. For this goal to achieve, The club owner and board should be ambitious with their plan and investment.

Current Napoli is different to Napoli were managed by Mazzarri before. Now Napoli is a holding Champion who has mentality to compete at the highest level. Mazzarri as an experienced manager who has a proven track records wont have big difficulties to guide Napoli with big project in the future.

That`s exactly the hope, that`s why they called Walter Mazzarri.
The Napoli management hopes that the team and players adapt quickly to Mazzarri`s game in order to contain the damage done by the previous coach. And seems works.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 26, 2023, 09:07:43 AM

we have discussed it a lot in the last week and yesterday we finally got to witness the new Napoli led by Walter Mazzarri who managed to win in a very demanding match by beating Atalanta 1-2 in Bergamo. I didn't see the whole match but from the glimpses of the match I saw a Napoli who were well concentrated and focused on seeking victory even though the match was very balanced for a long time. I hope to return to see a strong and successful Napoli with Mazzarri

Hopefully, as you said, Napoli will return to its best performance like last season with its current new manager. The match against Atalanta cannot be taken lightly because Atalanta is in sixth place in the points table, however, in the last two matches, Atalanta has had bad results, namely got a draw and a defeat so Atalanta was not in good condition, so Napoli was lucky to be able to take advantage of the situation.

I am happy that Napoli has found a suitable coach at this time so that Napoli does not experience a continuous downturn and the decision to fire Rudi Garcia is the right decision. Napoli really did not make a mistake in appointing a coach even though the situation was urgent and had to be done immediately.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 26, 2023, 02:05:55 PM

I don't want to say too much but if the Napoli players immediately become familiar with the module proposed by Mazzarri we could see a great Napoli that can fight against everyone, of course the calendar has not been friendly at all with Mazzarri who must immediately compete with Atalanta Real Madrid Juventus and Inter. We will see in the next Champions League match whether this Napoli can fight against everyone or yesterday's match was just a coincidence

It looks like Mazzarri knows Napoli very well like it was predicted, as he has history with Napoli. They have a talented squad with a lot of attacking potential. If the Napoli players can quickly adapt to Mazzarri's new system and play together as a unit, they could be a force in Europe. For this goal to achieve, The club owner and board should be ambitious with their plan and investment.

Current Napoli is different to Napoli were managed by Mazzarri before. Now Napoli is a holding Champion who has mentality to compete at the highest level. Mazzarri as an experienced manager who has a proven track records wont have big difficulties to guide Napoli with big project in the future.

I don't question Walter Mazzarri's experience, in fact I know very well that he is an excellent coach, my doubt lies in the mentality of the team, will they be able to get out of this unfortunate period and settle into the module proposed by Mazzarri? or was the victory against Atalanta just a lucky coincidence? I want to hope and believe that Napoli with Mazzarri can return to winning ways and fight for a place in the Champions League, and despite this with the 1-1 draw between Juventus and Inter they managed to shorten the distance from first place to 8 points, which are not few but not many either and could also be part of playing for the championship victory

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 26, 2023, 02:05:55 PM

I don't want to say too much but if the Napoli players immediately become familiar with the module proposed by Mazzarri we could see a great Napoli that can fight against everyone, of course the calendar has not been friendly at all with Mazzarri who must immediately compete with Atalanta Real Madrid Juventus and Inter. We will see in the next Champions League match whether this Napoli can fight against everyone or yesterday's match was just a coincidence

It looks like Mazzarri knows Napoli very well like it was predicted, as he has history with Napoli. They have a talented squad with a lot of attacking potential. If the Napoli players can quickly adapt to Mazzarri's new system and play together as a unit, they could be a force in Europe. For this goal to achieve, The club owner and board should be ambitious with their plan and investment.

Current Napoli is different to Napoli were managed by Mazzarri before. Now Napoli is a holding Champion who has mentality to compete at the highest level. Mazzarri as an experienced manager who has a proven track records wont have big difficulties to guide Napoli with big project in the future.

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Quote from: Distraction on November 24, 2023, 03:01:56 PM

I don't give Napoli a very much chance to win a back-to-back Serie A title either. Their start to the season ruined the plans for now. Because Inter and Juventus both are doing an amazing work these days. They are like copying Napoli's previous season now. We aren't even in the middle of the season though but this still looks very promising for them.

Even one of them drops from the championship race I don't think the other one would do the same. And as for which side to drop first in such case, I would say Juventus.

Because Inter look more reliable from the system they play accordingly and because of how much productive they are now too.

For me too their season is now ruined, I absolutely agree with you on this.
Now the only thing they can do is contain the damage done by the previous coach who unfortunately wasnt up to par.
These are mistakes that are made and that happen.

at least they can try to stay inside the cup area!

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 26, 2023, 10:06:40 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 26, 2023, 09:07:43 AM

we have discussed it a lot in the last week and yesterday we finally got to witness the new Napoli led by Walter Mazzarri who managed to win in a very demanding match by beating Atalanta 1-2 in Bergamo. I didn't see the whole match but from the glimpses of the match I saw a Napoli who were well concentrated and focused on seeking victory even though the match was very balanced for a long time. I hope to return to see a strong and successful Napoli with Mazzarri

Atalanta is not team that can be taken lightly and it turns out that Napoli managed to beat them with score of 1 - 2, which is pretty good start for Mazzarri because he can lead Napoli to beat tick like Atalanta.
But in the future, Napoli will face three difficult matches and this will put pressure on Mazzarri to be able to bring Napoli to maximum results.
Real Madrid will be difficult match for Napoli in the UCL and when Mazzarri is able to make Napoli have good game to at least match Real Madrid then I will really applaud his performance.
Then the next two matches are against Inter and Juventus, these are two strong teams in Serie A and the chance for Napoli to win this match is quite small.

In these three matches if Napoli can show their performance as well as possible and are able to match the three team, then there is great hope for Mazzarri in the future, which everyone hopes can bring big changes to the Napoli squad.
Mazzarri will also get an advantage because he has big chance of having his contract extended.

I don't want to say too much but if the Napoli players immediately become familiar with the module proposed by Mazzarri we could see a great Napoli that can fight against everyone, of course the calendar has not been friendly at all with Mazzarri who must immediately compete with Atalanta Real Madrid Juventus and Inter. We will see in the next Champions League match whether this Napoli can fight against everyone or yesterday's match was just a coincidence

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 26, 2023, 09:07:43 AM

we have discussed it a lot in the last week and yesterday we finally got to witness the new Napoli led by Walter Mazzarri who managed to win in a very demanding match by beating Atalanta 1-2 in Bergamo. I didn't see the whole match but from the glimpses of the match I saw a Napoli who were well concentrated and focused on seeking victory even though the match was very balanced for a long time. I hope to return to see a strong and successful Napoli with Mazzarri

Atalanta is not team that can be taken lightly and it turns out that Napoli managed to beat them with score of 1 - 2, which is pretty good start for Mazzarri because he can lead Napoli to beat tick like Atalanta.
But in the future, Napoli will face three difficult matches and this will put pressure on Mazzarri to be able to bring Napoli to maximum results.
Real Madrid will be difficult match for Napoli in the UCL and when Mazzarri is able to make Napoli have good game to at least match Real Madrid then I will really applaud his performance.
Then the next two matches are against Inter and Juventus, these are two strong teams in Serie A and the chance for Napoli to win this match is quite small.

In these three matches if Napoli can show their performance as well as possible and are able to match the three team, then there is great hope for Mazzarri in the future, which everyone hopes can bring big changes to the Napoli squad.
Mazzarri will also get an advantage because he has big chance of having his contract extended.

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we have discussed it a lot in the last week and yesterday we finally got to witness the new Napoli led by Walter Mazzarri who managed to win in a very demanding match by beating Atalanta 1-2 in Bergamo. I didn't see the whole match but from the glimpses of the match I saw a Napoli who were well concentrated and focused on seeking victory even though the match was very balanced for a long time. I hope to return to see a strong and successful Napoli with Mazzarri

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Quote from: klidex on November 23, 2023, 04:06:57 AM

Quote from: Rengga Jati on November 22, 2023, 04:32:24 PM

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In my opinion, Napoli's decision to fire Rudi Garcia was so quick and sudden as a result of Napoli facing defeat against Empoli. Indeed, Napoli felt humiliated by this because they could not face a club that was said to be very weak, indeed no one knows because sometimes in football there are always surprises. Weak clubs can give surprises when facing strong clubs like Empoli did
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But yes, I respect Napoli's decision. I hope this decision can make Napoli feel better and Mazzari can prove to Napoli that he is a suitable coach for Napoli at this time.

Many people have thoughts like this and maybe it's true like this. The proof is that up until his dismissal, Garcia was still unable to make good use of his opportunity to manage the squad better. So, it may be true that Napoli were still in a rush to take Garcia, especially since Garcia's previous track record was not suitable for Serie A. However, all that has already happened and Napoli's current step is to take Mazzarri back in the hope that conditions will be different. .And let's hope they get Mazzari right this time.

Anyway, the match between Atalanta and Napoli is their match. So we might know how Mazzarri will take Napoli in the future. At least, this time Mazzarri has to do his best because after all, Atalanta is a strong team and is not easy to beat. This will be a truly challenging match for Mazzarri at the start of his debut with Napoli.

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I don't give Napoli a very much chance to win a back-to-back Serie A title either. Their start to the season ruined the plans for now. Because Inter and Juventus both are doing an amazing work these days. They are like copying Napoli's previous season now. We aren't even in the middle of the season though but this still looks very promising for them.

Even one of them drops from the championship race I don't think the other one would do the same. And as for which side to drop first in such case, I would say Juventus.

Because Inter look more reliable from the system they play accordingly and because of how much productive they are now too.

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Quote from: babo on November 24, 2023, 01:38:57 AM

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you're right friend, on Saturday we'll see how Napoli starts to behave with Mazzarri at the helm of the team. Unfortunately for him it starts with a very challenging and important clash in Bergamo against Atalanta, where he shows up for the match still without Osimhen. I believe that many are waiting for the return of Serie A to see this very important match for both teams

It will be a difficult and demanding match, whatever the result (such as Napoli winning) it is always too early to judge Walter Mazzarri's work.
I don't mind him as a coach, he's not bad, he does his homework.

difficult and demanding are the right terms, I sincerely hope that Napoli win, maybe they gain a bit of morale and go back to fighting to win Serie A, and also because I really dislike Gasperini and he seems like a very domineering man

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Quote from: klidex on November 24, 2023, 03:30:44 AM

It's not easy to catch up on the points that Napoli are going through at the moment because Napoli has lost a lot of points, but it seems like slowly Napoli can still catch up with the remaining matches in Serie A because Napoli still has to face 25 matches if Napoli can maintain its consistency and continue creating a victory Napoli can win the title like last season.

If Mazzari can bring Napoli to become champions, I admit that Mazzari is a suitable coach for Napoli and Napoli is not wrong in appointing Mazzari as manager to replace Rudi Garcia. Currently we cannot see Mazzari's performance as a whole, but we can see Napoli when they face Atalanta can win this match easily because these two clubs only have a small difference in points, which means that Napoli and Atalanta have almost the same performance.

Honestly, I really dont think Napoli can win the scudetto, I find it really unlikely, so I dont really agree with you.
Instead he can definitely aim for the cups if he starts playing a little better and losing easy games, it will be difficult but he can do it. I think this is the goal of Walter Mazzarri.

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