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It never did before, but that's only because it never existed before.

Mining is now directly linked to job creation, not only via mining but the coin stock markets, and the stores like SR and p2p payments.

So now mining is directly linked to the economy, and I am suggesting that it be directly linked to invention, and functioning unemployment.

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Did you really need it explained in that much detail?

Here, let me save you the time and trouble.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

I know what the Zeitgeist movement is. Why do you guys think you are helping? You could ACTUALLY help by presenting links like that in a non douche manner. You are both acting like this isn't something that should be shared.

It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.

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Quote from: hawkeye on April 28, 2013, 02:13:22 PM

You realise that if everyone was mining coins the difficulty would be much greater and the electricity cost may outweigh the amount of money that the coins are worth?

Mining requires capital investment.

1. There are more than 1 kind of coins and more will be made

2. I have been suggesting the WHOLE time that once people make money they help others start mining.

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You realise that if everyone was mining coins the difficulty would be much greater and the electricity cost may outweigh the amount of money that the coins are worth?

Mining requires capital investment. It's profitable because not everyone does it. And just because you have or are making money from it doesn't mean you've discovered some brilliant thing that will save people from having to perform labour.

Machines are doing more and more work for us, but that's got nothing to do with mining coins. Mining coins is fundamentally no different than mining gold and putting it in a vault. Neither produces anything that humans can use in their daily lives but both have been necessary to facilitate trade.

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Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 02:10:30 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 02:08:54 PM

Did you really need it explained in that much detail?

Here, let me save you the time and trouble.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

I know what the Zeitgeist movement is. Why do you guys think you are helping? You could ACTUALLY help by presenting links like that in a non douchey manner, like saying "I read something like this here". You are both acting like this isn't something that should be shared.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 02:08:54 PM

Did you really need it explained in that much detail?

Here, let me save you the time and trouble.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

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Quote from: Ekaros on April 28, 2013, 02:05:20 PM

So then those people you hire will be slaves...

So you are saying that one should use mining as means to get capital to start bussiness. And that isn't really anything new. You still need the capital...

YES,
WE ARE NOT A FULLY UNEMPLOYED SOCIETY YET. We are WORKING TWOARDS IT. So the people hired would be slaves to the dollar, and so would everyone else, until we get rid of paper money.

And yes that is what I am saying, because that is ALL anyone can do for now. But I am adding the suggestion that you INVENT things, and GIVE to others.

Did you really need it explained in that much detail?

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:45:44 PM

The goal isn't to mine and sit on your ass for the rest of your life while the machines do more mining to make you money to live on.

The idea is to mine, then make money, then use that money to put real life applications into place. Invention is the only one that I have mentioned, but there are plenty of other ways to start your own company, or publish your own book/magazine, start your own website, make your own movie, run a political campaign, start a charity.

Make the world a better place by mining.

EX:
If you have earned a lot of money mining, buy a "Brother" T-Shirt printing machine. It may cost $5,000-$15,000. But you now have a machine that can print like 6-12 shirts an hour, and it will look like a real shirt, not ironed on shit.

Guess what, now you own a REAL t-shirt making company. And the machines do most of the work, and you can continue mining, maybe even hire people to do the work for you, or make an invention to do it. And you can do the same with magazines, and newspapers. It's just printers, but you do have to get a really good one.

So then those people you hire will be slaves...

So you are saying that one should use mining as means to get capital to start bussiness. And that isn't really anything new. You still need the capital...

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Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 01:57:49 PM

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Lol, I think you aren't reading, because I have said the whole time we need mechanics, inventors and specialized professionals.

But mining doesn't feed your kids. Sure, it (might) generate some money, but it doesn't grow the food.

But it buys the farm and the seeds. Then continues to provide income after that.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:56:21 PM

Lol, I think you aren't reading, because I have said the whole time we need mechanics, inventors and specialized professionals.

But mining doesn't feed your kids. Sure, it (might) generate some money, but it doesn't grow the food.

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My point was that everyone mining doesn't solve anything at all...

Still, I'm very skeptical that people making or designing the machines won't restrict those...

Yes it does, everyone mining, gives everyone money, making everyone comfortable.

Why mine at all, then, why not just print money and give it to everyone?

Because that happens to be illegal, while mining isn't, but basically does the same thing.

No, you misunderstand. Why can't the government just give everyone a million dollars? Then we'd all be rich.

Lol, no you don't understand. At that point the dollar becomes the peso.

Actually, I think you're beginning to understand. An economy needs more than bankers.

Lol, I think you aren't reading, because I have said the whole time we need mechanics, inventors and specialized professionals.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:52:21 PM

Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 01:50:15 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:42:59 PM

Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 01:42:18 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:38:40 PM

Quote from: Ekaros on April 28, 2013, 01:36:30 PM

My point was that everyone mining doesn't solve anything at all...

Still, I'm very skeptical that people making or designing the machines won't restrict those...

Yes it does, everyone mining, gives everyone money, making everyone comfortable.

Why mine at all, then, why not just print money and give it to everyone?

Because that happens to be illegal, while mining isn't, but basically does the same thing.

No, you misunderstand. Why can't the government just give everyone a million dollars? Then we'd all be rich.

Lol, no you don't understand. At that point the dollar becomes the peso.

Actually, I think you're beginning to understand. An economy needs more than bankers.

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Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 01:50:15 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:42:59 PM

Quote from: myrkul on April 28, 2013, 01:42:18 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on April 28, 2013, 01:38:40 PM

Quote from: Ekaros on April 28, 2013, 01:36:30 PM

My point was that everyone mining doesn't solve anything at all...

Still, I'm very skeptical that people making or designing the machines won't restrict those...

Yes it does, everyone mining, gives everyone money, making everyone comfortable.

Why mine at all, then, why not just print money and give it to everyone?

Because that happens to be illegal, while mining isn't, but basically does the same thing.

No, you misunderstand. Why can't the government just give everyone a million dollars? Then we'd all be rich.

Lol, no you don't understand. At that point the dollar becomes the peso.

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Attempt in the 60s to create a free society. The information is from a NY based group known as "The Diggers" and it was printed into a book by Abbie Hoffman.
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