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Topic: Let's Talk Bitcoin! #6 "Cyprus & Serendipity" Big Jeffrey A. Tucker Interview (Read 5362 times)

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Hi Everybody,
I've handed off posting-to-the-forums duty to an associate, the new thread for this show is located
here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lets-talk-bitcoin-episode-007-ripple-the-deflationary-business-model-206489

I'll still be checking it frequently, I look forward to continuing the conversation with you.
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
I love your show thanks, +cointip mindtomatter 50mPPC
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Episode 006 for May 10th, 2013 - Cyprus & Serendipity
  • The Forbes Meetup & Andreas
  • The Smallest ASIC Miners yet!  Is it worth your time?
  • Michael Hill on Bitcoin and the Cypriot Calamity
  • Making History - Satoshi’s Square & The Cafe Meetups that became the Stock Exchange
  • Bad Actors on the Blockchain - Busting Myths & Rumors
  • The Distinguished Jeffrey Tucker on the Serendipity of Bitcoin, and his journey from Skeptic to Enthusiast
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Thank you,
Episode 5 will be out in the next 6 hours - Our experiment with multitrack recording is now over thanks to major synchronization problems that needed to be corrected manually.
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That's actually a teaser clip from the next episode - I needed to post it for I could get a response from a guy who is currently going through the hurdles to start an exchange, and figured might as well release it on the stream.
Nice podcast enjoyed it a lot
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Ep5 is going to be out late tonight, several hours past the usual release - I found myself with too much content generation and not enough editing time, so I've got a pile in front of me.  Episode 6 should be released early (on friday) for the same reason
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I actually think he was serious, because he knows it's way more about optics than reality.   Also I have it on good authority that MK is very invested in the success of bitcoin, and is working in a variety of ways to help it towards greater adoption. 
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Thank you Smiley

The "omfg" factor about many of these new "built on top of the blockchain" technologies and solutions is substantial.  I'm trying to find a mix between dissecting news and helping to present new ideas and projects, I think we're pretty good for now.

Since Episode 4 released about 14 hours ago we've had 757 listens on the various soundcloud embeds, 177 downloads from the podcast feed (up to 573 subscribers there) - I don't have numbers for stitcher yet, but our numbers are looking better, faster, every episode.

It's very promising.

Also during this time: We've already had 8 people donate to episode 4, two people donate to episode 2, and one to episode 3 - Support ranges from .05 to .00888809 but like I said, it's the number of supporters not the amount of support.  Every time we release a new episode, I hear from more people doing cool thing Smiley It's very exciting, I think so long as I do the work and build the team we're going to have meaningful success.

I'm trying to get Max Keiser for an interview to discuss his dollar Peg idea, hard dude to nail down but I'm making progress.
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Wow, episode 4 was a GREAT episode.  Shocked

I tell you what, I am so excited about the possibilities of the blockchain and am glad you got to talking about it.
I looked at the Wiki page for blockchain uses https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Alternative_chain and the list just keeps growing and growing (e.g. - decentralized DNS, voting, file storage, time stamping, etc.). What an ingenious(al) idea to use it as a log-in method and further to use bitcoins as a "deposit" of sorts to thwart off spamm accounts on sites such as this one, twitter, etc. Sorry for the poorly worded observation but watching this technology develop is something to behold. We need a running list of alternative uses of the block chain.

Antifragile = BTC = Black Swann (and not necessarily in that order).

IAS

ps - Adam - If you are over 2000 listeners by episode 4, the future looks really bright for you guys and of course, us as well.  Grin
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That's a good point about the frequency issue.  Without counting, .10 donations are probably the single largest number, with .01 and .02 being close seconds.

Maybe that should be the ask - .1 per month (8 shows)  - I'm really curious to see how the donation thing develops - looks very promising.

I really think the Bitcoin ID concept is a huge deal, I've started helping organize the open source project along with Joe - We're going to use the Let's Talk Bitcoin! forum as a proof-of-concept and then roll it into a few very important projects within the bitcoin decision-making world.  If you know any User Interface/User Experience guys please send them my way.

Enjoyed the show. A comment about the donations issue.

I expect that many people like me will think "I'd like to donate. But I don't want to do it every week" so that's why people are donating in the .1-1BTC range rather than the 0.01 x hundreds of people version you were hoping for.

Like, for myself, I donated 0.1 thinking of it as ~$15 USD and thinking "that's my contribution for the next month or two, let's see how this goes". And then if I think you're providing me a really valuable service and I enjoy the show, I can do the same again later.

Of course, once automated payment systems are up and running, that would be a great option for micropayments Smiley

Comment on the content: the ID-tied-to-BTC-address concept is excellent. There seems to be a connection with the Namecoin concept and what Julian Assange was saying to Eric Schmidt in that transcript.

Your concerns about tying monetary value to speech are valid, and I am worried about that too, but I believe/hope they will be addressed by the free market. That is to say, just as now people can interact via facebook if they want to, or on an open forum with anonymous login if they want to, so in the future fora will form based on BTC identities for those who see value in that (avoidance of spam and fraud or anything else), and other fora will form with other user groups in mind. There is no need to try and regulate anything away.

At a deeper level, I think the "ID in BTC" concept, like the "smart property" concept has great philosophical significance for the way society develops from here. I have an idea in my mind based around reification, Platonic ideals and entropy but that's for another time...

Enjoying the shows Adam. I tend to agree with "waxing". I donated .1 as a "subscription" of sorts. I listen to maybe 5 - 10 podcasts fairly regularly and donating $15X(5-10) a month is just too steep for me (and probably many of us). But, I guess it is supply and demand. Also, we will have to see where BTC goes to and stabilizes at ( a long ways away...)

I think we all appreciate the show and what is more alarming to me is that so few people donate at all. As you said on the show it would be nice to see more .01 donations and less larger donations, as the few shouldn't carry the many. Then again, it is a "free" show, so we'll have to see where things settle down to. If you have over a 1000 listeners, donations and supporting the show shouldn't be a problem.

Looking forward to listening to #4.

Thx again,
IAS

Thanks for your thoughts, thats basically my theory as well - And I know many of our listeners do not have Bitcoins yet, so it's one of those "everybody's new" problems.  As it stands right now we're reaching 2,000+ people per episode through the various release methods, and the number is going up steadily.
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That's a good point about the frequency issue.  Without counting, .10 donations are probably the single largest number, with .01 and .02 being close seconds.

Maybe that should be the ask - .1 per month (8 shows)  - I'm really curious to see how the donation thing develops - looks very promising.

I really think the Bitcoin ID concept is a huge deal, I've started helping organize the open source project along with Joe - We're going to use the Let's Talk Bitcoin! forum as a proof-of-concept and then roll it into a few very important projects within the bitcoin decision-making world.  If you know any User Interface/User Experience guys please send them my way.

Enjoyed the show. A comment about the donations issue.

I expect that many people like me will think "I'd like to donate. But I don't want to do it every week" so that's why people are donating in the .1-1BTC range rather than the 0.01 x hundreds of people version you were hoping for.

Like, for myself, I donated 0.1 thinking of it as ~$15 USD and thinking "that's my contribution for the next month or two, let's see how this goes". And then if I think you're providing me a really valuable service and I enjoy the show, I can do the same again later.

Of course, once automated payment systems are up and running, that would be a great option for micropayments Smiley

Comment on the content: the ID-tied-to-BTC-address concept is excellent. There seems to be a connection with the Namecoin concept and what Julian Assange was saying to Eric Schmidt in that transcript.

Your concerns about tying monetary value to speech are valid, and I am worried about that too, but I believe/hope they will be addressed by the free market. That is to say, just as now people can interact via facebook if they want to, or on an open forum with anonymous login if they want to, so in the future fora will form based on BTC identities for those who see value in that (avoidance of spam and fraud or anything else), and other fora will form with other user groups in mind. There is no need to try and regulate anything away.

At a deeper level, I think the "ID in BTC" concept, like the "smart property" concept has great philosophical significance for the way society develops from here. I have an idea in my mind based around reification, Platonic ideals and entropy but that's for another time...

Enjoying the shows Adam. I tend to agree with "waxing". I donated .1 as a "subscription" of sorts. I listen to maybe 5 - 10 podcasts fairly regularly and donating $15X(5-10) a month is just too steep for me (and probably many of us). But, I guess it is supply and demand. Also, we will have to see where BTC goes to and stabilizes at ( a long ways away...)

I think we all appreciate the show and what is more alarming to me is that so few people donate at all. As you said on the show it would be nice to see more .01 donations and less larger donations, as the few shouldn't carry the many. Then again, it is a "free" show, so we'll have to see where things settle down to. If you have over a 1000 listeners, donations and supporting the show shouldn't be a problem.

Looking forward to listening to #4.

Thx again,
IAS
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That's a good point about the frequency issue.  Without counting, .10 donations are probably the single largest number, with .01 and .02 being close seconds.

Maybe that should be the ask - .1 per month (8 shows)  - I'm really curious to see how the donation thing develops - looks very promising.

I really think the Bitcoin ID concept is a huge deal, I've started helping organize the open source project along with Joe - We're going to use the Let's Talk Bitcoin! forum as a proof-of-concept and then roll it into a few very important projects within the bitcoin decision-making world.  If you know any User Interface/User Experience guys please send them my way.

Enjoyed the show. A comment about the donations issue.

I expect that many people like me will think "I'd like to donate. But I don't want to do it every week" so that's why people are donating in the .1-1BTC range rather than the 0.01 x hundreds of people version you were hoping for.

Like, for myself, I donated 0.1 thinking of it as ~$15 USD and thinking "that's my contribution for the next month or two, let's see how this goes". And then if I think you're providing me a really valuable service and I enjoy the show, I can do the same again later.

Of course, once automated payment systems are up and running, that would be a great option for micropayments Smiley

Comment on the content: the ID-tied-to-BTC-address concept is excellent. There seems to be a connection with the Namecoin concept and what Julian Assange was saying to Eric Schmidt in that transcript.

Your concerns about tying monetary value to speech are valid, and I am worried about that too, but I believe/hope they will be addressed by the free market. That is to say, just as now people can interact via facebook if they want to, or on an open forum with anonymous login if they want to, so in the future fora will form based on BTC identities for those who see value in that (avoidance of spam and fraud or anything else), and other fora will form with other user groups in mind. There is no need to try and regulate anything away.

At a deeper level, I think the "ID in BTC" concept, like the "smart property" concept has great philosophical significance for the way society develops from here. I have an idea in my mind based around reification, Platonic ideals and entropy but that's for another time...
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We actually did talk about the elephant in the room, it wasn't really a one-sided contract.  It may seem that way, but signing the contract prevented the creation of probably their most connected US challenger to date.  The partnership means that Gox basically keeps their monopoly on market trading, rather than losing their US customers when Coinlab's exchange is much easier to get money into, and comply with relevent tax law.

Yes I do remember you talking about the Quid pro quo, but in my opinion this really isn't of the same magnitude.

MtGox was removing only one (theoretical) competitor, at the cost of giving away much.

This move was risking to alienate part of their customers; many people really
didn't like the idea of MtGox simply transferring private information like this.
(Which was expressed quite clearly on the forum.)

I, for one, really didn't like the move to US soil.

Gox also pretty much has a de facto monopoly on market trading anyway.
People buy BTCs from different exchanges, but if they want to trade, they mostly just send their BTCs to Gox.
I don't really see any reason why buyers at Coinlab would have stayed at CoinLab.

The contract mentioned that Gox was supposed to help CoinLab with the liquidity and know-how.
This, alone, is a huge chunk! We've seen again and again exchanges appearing with what you call the amateurs hour.
What were they lacking? For the most part, liquidity and know-how.

CoinLab also gained the prestige that comes with associating with the oldest and most successful Bitcoin exchange.
From a startup which initial plan was to GPU mine on gamers computers... let's just say it was a more than necessary PR boost.

And this is all assuming that CoinLab indeed had some important footholds in the
banking world that would prevent banks from arbitrarily closing their account.

Oh and CoinLab, by the contract, is also prohibited from entering in competition with MtGox for only 2 years.

It's probable that Mark saw things I didn't see, but that deal really looks one-sided to me.  Huh


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