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legendary
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March 04, 2013, 07:56:11 PM
Since the guy ain't smart enough to request to get outta Newbie, nor know how to spell Bitcoin, regardless what he states otherwise as to spelling errors, MC.com ain't passing the smell test.

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I have sent a message to our webmaster to have our website edited to mention BitCoin mining in the product description.  I am not able to post on the board your talking in (Which many others in there that are saying why aren't they replying in here know), but I have definitely been taking the time to private message users from that board about their concerns.

I would definitely say, that many people have taken a large amount of time to find the least little thing to make it look like a scam, while totally avoiding the things that prove our legitimacy.  Obviously, our products will not be taken seriously until highly recognized individuals from the community test and review our products.  I would also like to point out, that there has never been one single thing ever posted anywhere on the internet about us ripping people off with our other sales outside of bitcoin mining.  I would never accuse anybody or business of being a scam, until there was tangible proof of it.  Example:  John Doe paid "x" amount of money and never received their product, Jane Doe bought her custom PC from them, but it never arrived...this has never happened which is why no one is saying it.  We have not ever scammed anyone, and we will not ever scam anyone.  If someone doesn't want to order our products for any reason, that is totally their choice...However it seems a bit Ignorant to go off accusing a business of being a scam without any proof.  I have seen the comments about the website, and etc.  Big deal, all business's make editing mistakes on their websites.  We openly admitted it being our "New" website.  Plenty of bugs to work out with it.  We have stated to other members of this Forum, that we have sent request to Youtube to have those video's taken down, as they were not pre-approved to post them.  Aside, from watching our customers come to the forum as they begin receiving their products and discussing those products...there really isn't much more we can do to prove anything.  Regardless of anything we post, some people (alot of supporters of other companies) will find a way to point out something small to make us look bad.  So we will wait for your fellow members to start sharing their pics, vids, and details about the products.  Don't worry, we won't be mean and rub it in to those who have been aggressively trying to make us look bad.  We will gladly welcome them as customers too.

I'll address the first paragraph first:

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I have sent a message to our webmaster to have our website edited to mention BitCoin mining in the product description.  I am not able to post on the board your talking in (Which many others in there that are saying why aren't they replying in here know), but I have definitely been taking the time to private message users from that board about their concerns.

Clearly, the same guy who penned the above has access to the user account on this forum. Most likely the same guy who registered said account. Ain't got a clue as to how to get whitelisted, yet knows how to use the PM.

You shouldn't have too much trouble getting in contact with your webmaster, even IF he's a different person other than yourself, for he was available late Sunday night to edit Mark's comment in regard to the YT video being taking down. Can't remember, but I think it had something to do with the shadow of his likeness being broadcast on the wall throughout the video. BTW, better warn the other guy who committed on your website that there's a nice shadow of him reflecting off one of the machines in his basement gaming room video showing off his Lightning Miner. Oddly, he too looks like Mark. Maybe they're brothers.

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I would definitely say, that many people have taken a large amount of time to find the least little thing to make it look like a scam, while totally avoiding the things that prove our legitimacy.

I'll answer that since you're new here: Yep! Another case in point--this post. Enjoy!

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Obviously, our products will not be taken seriously until highly recognized individuals from the community test and review our products.

Obviously! You could have gone another route, one that didn't raise a myriad of red flags, but that would have been too easy. If you're true to your word, then it's highly probably that those units were sent out today with tracking numbers to said community members since you sent out quickly to the six that have commented on your website. I suggest sending a memo to your shipping department to make sure that that's the case.



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I would also like to point out, that there has never been one single thing ever posted anywhere on the internet about us ripping people off with our other sales outside of bitcoin mining.

I have to give you that one, though I truly don't know how you were able to pull that feat off. My only guess, and it's only a guess, is that the entity is only a couple weeks old and nobody has ordered yet. Again, it's only an educated guess, given the facts I've been able to work with. Strike that! You mentioned outside Bitcoin mining products (implied). I'm willing to Matthew-Bet that you won't ever supply us what those previous entities are/were.

Secondly, please make sure that your webmaster knows, and uses properly, the various correct spellings and grammar usage of the term Bitcoin: Bitcoin; bitcoin; bitcoins.

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I would never accuse anybody or business of being a scam, until there was tangible proof of it.  Example:  John Doe paid "x" amount of money and never received their product, Jane Doe bought her custom PC from them, but it never arrived...this has never happened which is why no one is saying it.

Well, looky here! You can call me a liar, for I quoted two sentences after just professing that I was doing one at a time. PM theymos and tell him to give me the scammer tag. That'll learn me.

I guess it all depends on your definition of what tangible is. Nobody has ever accused Bruno's Barn Wood Emporium of being a scam either. Not a single person has ever, and I mean ever, not received product from BWE. I'll leave it up to you to figure out what I just did there.

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We have not ever scammed anyone, and we will not ever scam anyone.

And either will BWE. BTW, the wording is very similar, and maybe even exact, to those who've used it previously on this forum and now are labeled scammers. Speaking of which, I'm still surprised you're not yet labeled considering the altering of the quoted comments on your website. Did you not know that you're at liberty to edit every single thing on a website except quoted comments from previous clients? Granted, you're allowed to make them up, but don't ever get caught. Do you all know how to get caught? Answer: Alter the quotes after they're published.

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If someone doesn't want to order our products for any reason, that is totally their choice...However it seems a bit Ignorant to go off accusing a business of being a scam without any proof.



It'll be pretty ignorant to order product from an entity with so many waving red flags when the wind isn't even blowin'.

It's not that I don't want to order 23 units. I want to believe. Why 23? Because it's a nice round number.

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I have seen the comments about the website, and etc.

But have you read them?

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Big deal, all business's make editing mistakes on their websites.

They sure do! But the major ones are caught prior to being published. You truly don't have a clue as to what the major concerns were until they were brought to your attention.

But let's consider the fact that it's not your fault, but the fault of your webmaster-blaster. Obviously, not enough homework was done prior to hiring the fool, which makes the person who commissioned him a greater fool for not doing due diligence.

I would love to see the original website from which your supposedly previous customers order from if the same webmaster-blaster also penned that one, and your currently website is the master piece.

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We openly admitted it being our "New" website.

Anderson-Cooper-Style? (a little thought is needed for that reply, for it may, or may not be, a double entendre)

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Plenty of bugs to work out with it.

I would love to combine that sentence with the one previous, but I'm on probation, and only allowed one lie per post.

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We have stated to other members of this Forum, that we have sent request to Youtube to have those video's taken down, as they were not pre-approved to post them.

Well, jack me off, Gomer! The only fuckin' proof you had in the wild showing your product and you demanded that they come down. First, I don't see how that's possible. Secondly, there were only two videos (BTW, you spelled that wrong, along with YouTube--capital T). And third, according to what was penned by your webmaster-blaster, "Video link Removed by Support per customer request." That no looky to me like YouTube removed the video. Also, according to the following found here  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD7OjvdQpl8, the same: "This video has been removed by the user."

If it was removed for some other reason, YouTube would have stipulated that.

Again, I'm pretty sure The Shadow had something to do with it. Second video going down in 5... 4... 3... for exactly the same reason.

Intermission: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TF0JrY3zAs

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Aside, from watching our customers come to the forum as they begin receiving their products and discussing those products...there really isn't much more we can do to prove anything.

Make a note that when the positive comments start rollin' in, PM theymos to have them removed, for they too would need to be pre-approved.

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Regardless of anything we post, some people (alot of supporters of other companies) will find a way to point out something small to make us look bad.

A lot is two words, not one. There's a fine thread on this forum learnin' folks this fact.

Honestly, you're paying attention to the wrong people. Most of the naysayers reside in other camps, for we prefer the colored marshmallows.

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So we will wait for your fellow members to start sharing their pics, vids, and details about the products.

I now have Goober jacking me off, for Gomer was doing it all wrong. You do realize that you're requesting that we wait for further videos on YT to prove that your viable, don't you?

This just in! Apple has requested of YouTube to take down the million plus videos showcasing iPods and iPads, for none were pre-approved.

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Don't worry, we won't be mean and rub it in to those who have been aggressively trying to make us look bad.

Boy, I'm relieved. The last thing I desire is for somebody to be mean to me.

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We will gladly welcome them as customers too

Great! And once proven viable, I'll order my 23 Mammoths, hopefully they're as shown below with the Nexus 8.0 installed.



To be clear, if you think I was tough, wait till Data finds this thread:



I'll end with my sig and following image:

~Bruno K~

newbie
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March 04, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: MultiVerseSupport
I have sent a message to our webmaster to have our website edited to mention BitCoin mining in the product description.  I am not able to post on the board your talking in (Which many others in there that are saying why aren't they replying in here know), but I have definitely been taking the time to private message users from that board about their concerns.

I would definitely say, that many people have taken a large amount of time to find the least little thing to make it look like a scam, while totally avoiding the things that prove our legitimacy.  Obviously, our products will not be taken seriously until highly recognized individuals from the community test and review our products.  I would also like to point out, that there has never been one single thing ever posted anywhere on the internet about us ripping people off with our other sales outside of bitcoin mining.  I would never accuse anybody or business of being a scam, until there was tangible proof of it.  Example:  John Doe paid "x" amount of money and never received their product, Jane Doe bought her custom PC from them, but it never arrived...this has never happened which is why no one is saying it.  We have not ever scammed anyone, and we will not ever scam anyone.  If someone doesn't want to order our products for any reason, that is totally their choice...However it seems a bit Ignorant to go off accusing a business of being a scam without any proof.  I have seen the comments about the website, and etc.  Big deal, all business's make editing mistakes on their websites.  We openly admitted it being our "New" website.  Plenty of bugs to work out with it.  We have stated to other members of this Forum, that we have sent request to Youtube to have those video's taken down, as they were not pre-approved to post them.  Aside, from watching our customers come to the forum as they begin receiving their products and discussing those products...there really isn't much more we can do to prove anything.  Regardless of anything we post, some people (alot of supporters of other companies) will find a way to point out something small to make us look bad.  So we will wait for your fellow members to start sharing their pics, vids, and details about the products.  Don't worry, we won't be mean and rub it in to those who have been aggressively trying to make us look bad.  We will gladly welcome them as customers too.


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Thank you for the response.

I just recently rejoined the community myself when the BTC in my wallet started to be valuable.  I am still getting back up to speed, but here are some questions I can think of that might help you establish your legitmacy.  Obviously it will take time to answer them all, but a response to any of them would likely prove valuable.  I will post your response in the thread on your behalf.

What was the domain name of your previous website?
Why is there no evidence of Lightning Miner to be found anywhere on the Internet prior to last week?  Can you produce any?
What is your physical business address?
Will you provide an in person product demo to a trusted community member who can visit your facility?
Please provide a high resolution video / screen cap of the product mining
Please email high resolution photos of the product
Please provide mining logs of the product
Please provide evidence of a pool account and statistics
Please provide reference customer(s)
What specifically (name, version, etc) are the software miner and monitor included on the CD?
Please provide the terms of the lifetime warranty
Please explain the repetitive use of phrases and misnomers in your comments section that seemed to indicate they were written by the same person that created the website and the subsequent editing

I would certainly be happy to be proven wrong and to become a satisfied customer.

Thank You

full member
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March 04, 2013, 04:16:17 PM
Although I would be shocked if anything was shipped at all, there is the remote possibility that something capable of mining bits of some kind will be received.

Funny that the only place Bitcoin is actually mentioned is on the payment button and hidden at the bottom of the page for search engines.  I see no reference to Bitcoin mining anywhere that indicates their equipment has that capability.

What Misc Mining software and Miner Monitor are included on the CD?

Lightning Miner 4.0 (Production ends March 25, 2013)
Application Specific Integrated Circuit Device
4.5 watt - Power Supply Included. (Adapters for specified countries)
Mhash/s 4,000.......Mhash/J 1000
Com Ports: USB - Usb Cable Included
CD Included. Misc Mining software, Miner Monitor, and more


This is mentioned earlier in thread
newbie
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March 04, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
A small bit of info from the invoice from my order.

The payment system used was intuit.com.

The address on the invoice was in INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46235

Phil

Although I would be shocked if anything was shipped at all, there is the remote possibility that something capable of mining bits of some kind will be received.

Funny that the only place Bitcoin is actually mentioned is on the payment button and hidden at the bottom of the page for search engines.  I see no reference to Bitcoin mining anywhere that indicates their equipment has that capability.

What Misc Mining software and Miner Monitor are included on the CD?

Lightning Miner 4.0 (Production ends March 25, 2013)
Application Specific Integrated Circuit Device
4.5 watt - Power Supply Included. (Adapters for specified countries)
Mhash/s 4,000.......Mhash/J 1000
Com Ports: USB - Usb Cable Included
CD Included. Misc Mining software, Miner Monitor, and more

member
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March 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
A small bit of info from the invoice from my order.

The payment system used was intuit.com.

The address on the invoice was in INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46235

Phil

Makes sense.. the site's IP address is hosted by Intuit.
hero member
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March 04, 2013, 02:55:26 PM
#99
A small bit of info from the invoice from my order.

The payment system used was intuit.com.

The address on the invoice was in INDIANAPOLIS, IN 46235

Phil
hero member
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March 04, 2013, 02:37:02 PM
#98
Support Phone # is registered to one Eric D Wilcox, Billerica, former CNC machine tools salesman up until two years ago then worked as a handyman, business was closed in September 2012, in his own word "In March 2013, I shall retire." Retiring on a nice security bed of cash, are we?
hero member
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March 04, 2013, 02:21:02 PM
#97
he doesn't seem real concerned with the forums any more.  I think he may have given up

Doesn't mean we've lost interest.

Dude shouldn't have put up his phone # on Hotfrog.

Points to Dunfermline, Cowdenbeath, Scotland


Disregard that. Wrong multiversecomputer
full member
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March 04, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
#96
he doesn't seem real concerned with the forums any more.  I think he may have given up
legendary
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March 04, 2013, 01:55:53 PM
#95
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Name:   MultiVerseSupport
Posts:   1
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Date Registered:   March 01, 2013, 08:50:05 PM
Last Active:   Today at 10:36:32 AM

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Hey, Jacob! You can formally request a whitelist so that you can get out of Newbie. I have friends in high places just dying to honor said request. BTW, if I point out another shadow on the other YT video, do you think he too will take down the video? Sure the hell looks like Mark L to me.

It's a shame you put in so much time and money to build multiversecomputers.com and multiversecomputers.net, only to receive such a welcome from the buddies you were hoping to acquire.

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All comments are reviewed by our customer service division prior to posting.  Please double check your spelling.  While we do except most comments, even with links in them...we do have some things we prohibit.  The following is a list of prohibited content in the Comments section.
---- Offensive or Extreme profanity
---- Technical questions (should be handled through our contact us page)
---- Advertising of Products or Companies not associated with us
---- Racial or Sexual Comments
---- Political or Business Demeaning Comments
---- Comments containing personal information (phone number, address, and etc)
---- Links to any products not found within Multiversecomputers.com

----And all comments with the phrase YOU ALL will be edited out, except one.
legendary
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March 04, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
#94
Btw the address:

 96 Mowat Ave, Toronto ON

is a pretty run down part of town and is known for its shadier dealings (there have been numerous drug busts in that area).

For the nth time, that is not their address. It is the address of contactprivacy.com.

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Administrative Contact:
    Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0133634105,   [email protected]
    96 Mowat Ave
    Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
    CA
    +1.4165385457

http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=contactprivacy.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

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Registrant:
Contact Privacy Inc.
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA

Domain name: CONTACTPRIVACY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Administrator, DNS [email protected]
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA
+1.4165350123
Technical Contact:
Administrator, DNS [email protected]
96 Mowat Ave
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
CA
+1.4165350123
full member
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March 04, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
#93
maybe they run SR too
sr. member
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March 04, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
#92
Btw the address:

 96 Mowat Ave, Toronto ON

is a pretty run down part of town and is known for its shadier dealings (there have been numerous drug busts in that area).
legendary
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March 04, 2013, 09:39:46 AM
#91
I think we need a bet.
My money is on this being a scam 50-1 odds.
primeasic 2-1
helveticoin 1-1

newbie
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March 04, 2013, 09:29:55 AM
#90
Man ya gotta give em an A for effort.   I contacted them last night and received this not long after.

This has been mentioned before. Who calls bitcoin BC?  


The only BC references I've ever seen are the emails posted in this thread from Lightning Miner and the customers in the comments section of their website.

What a freakish coincidence!  If I didn't know any better I'd think those customer comments were written by Lightning Miner himself!  Nah, couldn't be... Shocked
full member
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March 04, 2013, 06:23:00 AM
#89
Scammers know people here are so eager to pay a lot to get ASICs as faster than others as possible.
It's a perfect opportunity for them to grab a huge amount of un-traceable money from people out of mind.
That's why they suddenly come out telling too-good-to-be-true stories


Really?
sr. member
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March 04, 2013, 05:40:13 AM
#88
Scammers know people here are so eager to pay a lot to get ASICs as faster than others as possible.
It's a perfect opportunity for them to grab a huge amount of un-traceable money from people out of mind.
That's why they suddenly come out telling too-good-to-be-true stories
full member
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March 04, 2013, 05:35:02 AM
#87

You all remember this?



Err before my time maybe?  But was this Atlas person bad?
legendary
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March 04, 2013, 05:19:28 AM
#86
I will suck Goat's dick if this is not Atlas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJUy2K3AOI

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darkorbitsemperor 12 hours ago
Np, and yes that fan is niceeeee....i love things that glow blue as far as my computer goes. The more blue lights, the happier I am lmao

You all remember this?

full member
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March 04, 2013, 04:58:13 AM
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Who calls bitcoin BC?

A redneck who changes customers quotes on his website and deletes his own video when it shown that his image is shadowed on the wall in his redneck home. That's who.

I agree ya here Phinn (don't think they call em redneck in Canada though).  I guess I am having problems with the lengths gone to (so far) establish themselves a real company. 

Hello Everyone,
                      While I am definitely not new to mining and BC, I am new to this forum.  I work for a business that sells misc computers and computer parts.  We also fabricate shells for PC Towers, and some mining devices.  We build custom mining rigs, and have already sold some of our ASIC products with comments from customers already coming back in.  We just switched from an old Go-Daddy website to a all new one, so we haven't quite got all of our products up on the site yet.  We are small business of 15 employees total.  Currently our top selling miner is the Lightning Miner 4.0 which customers just started getting about 3-5 days ago in the mail.  We are building about 90 of them per week now.  I have also thought about adding a special coupon code here for all forum members so during checkout at our site, they could get a discount if interested in any of our products.   We have done this in other forums with some of our CPU, and motherboard sales.  If we are not allowed to post our website, then someone please remove it, but not my greeting.  Feel free to message me with any questions, or if you would like discount.  If you have any "Polite" recomendations for the business i work for, then please feel free to let me know.  We already got the merchant acct with Mt.Gox and are now accepting BC payments, along with our credit card payment system.  I hope to make some buddies on here, and maybe even business affiliates  Grin

multiversecomputers.com


This guy still has only one post on the forum.  Seems he should be bustin' his ass to get outta newb land and defend themselves here.

I am spending to much time on this.  Someone will repost soon.
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