Topic: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware - page 201. (Read 423277 times)

They have the capacity to do so, though I do not believe that would be a wise decision. The 8 board design will likely be more expensive as it is a custom short run. Focusing on the K16 allows us to build flexibly and reduce the total cost per board.

In purchasing the 256, do you believe your miner builder can put out 8 board configs (in my case, i'd buy two)? Or is the build you will be offering only for K16s?

Yes. It is possible to purchase additional chips up to 100% of the original order without losing your line position, provided the chips are available. The K64 is a panelized version of 4 K16s. Please confirm in the Klondike thread, but I believe 8-12 is the current optimal configuration for daisy chaining the boards together.

If I purchased 251, would I be able to tack on those last 5 chips? provided they are still available in the next day or two?

Also, are there larger form factors than the 16 chip PCBs? Ive read that the bbk boards can be jointly fashioned in 4x grids for 64 chips / board

Thank you for the quick and detailed reply.  May I ask why insurance isn't being considered?  The impact of even a small break-in, or more likely a fire, would be severely devastating to the project's reputation and may cripple confidence that results in mass exodus of those who have their chips hosted.  Additionally, it would almost eliminate the chance of an angry hostee of suing for damages if there was a theft that resulted in the loss of their property hardware.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say I appreciate the dedication and clarity, it is refreshing!

This is important.  As soon as we stick it in a case, it becomes something that will need regulatory approval, by the time it is approved, it will be useless :-(  There is a thread elsewhere about the lack of approval stickers on the BFL products...

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32 chips.
2.752 BTC
TX ID: 6933e825c2e3eb04beb7ef00b206e948b15fef03c39dc415f48b493f288775e4

I understand that assembly, testing, shipping is additional, or should I go for hosting option am aware of hosting fees + electricity. Please contact me should there me any errors in payment or signing.

Thank you very much! 

We deal in BTC so we don't need approval to do anything lol

Hi Steamboat,
Thanks for a great project
Now that batches 1 - 4 have been ordered, do you have a confirmed ship date or arrival date from Avalon for each batch?
Earlier in this thread I think 9-10 weeks was given as the order lead time estimate from Avalon on chip purchases, but did Avalon provide any specific information after placing the batch orders? Just curious.
Thanks!

Thank you for asking this question.

The 8% hosting fee is scheduled to cover security, infrastructure upgrades, portal setup (tentative. the format for hosting has not yet been finalized.), central servers, (this point is also under consideration), data fees, replacements, and maintenance.

Additionally it covers firmware updates and on/offsite support.

The hosting option still remains to be finalized, and there are several options being researched. There are many items which must come first in the project timeline before those questions can be addressed, and a setup fee may be unavoidable. The logistics of developing a cluster are vast, and the timeline for bringing the assembled miners online very small.

PSUs, cases, cooling, Switched PDUs, hosts, racks, and line runs are just a few of the hardware items which must be purchased for hosting. At a minimum, each batch of chips requires 250 amp service, which is an incredibly dense power requirement.

Skilled labor is available and has been reserved, and is not free.

I cannot answer those questions at this time, as I do not have any definitive answers.


As a personal note:
I as a member of bitcointalk.org and the Bitcoin community was a miner first. I understand staying up until 4 in the morning tweaking a miner to get the most efficient setup possible. I have spent many red-eyed nights pouring over spreadsheets and studying product offerings to make sure I chose the most effective solution. I know the feeling when you take the first big step and make the investment, hoping there wasn't a missed variable. I have experienced the elation when all those concerns melt away as the miners are brought online and the hashrate begins to climb. My mission is to help the community get the most cost effective, stable, reliable mining solution possible, as quickly as possible. I have approached each part of this project as if I were building my own mining rigs, because I am. I have been reluctant to release information not because I want to make it more difficult to calculate ROI or budget your coins, but because I do not ever want to be forced to tell you the price is higher than you had planned, or the timeline has increased, or the power usage was incorrect. Each phase of this project has been checked and rechecked, verified and tested, with backup plans implemented, to do everything in my power to make sure I never have to do that. I am not out to make a quick buck. I am not here to be yet another chip gateway. My goal is to add as much value and service to your purchase as I can, doing something I love, and hopefully produce something you can be proud to own. This approach takes time, and there are no shortcuts. This poses a problem as time is of the essence I know, but it takes twice as long to do it wrong. I ask that you bear with me and the information delays, and I thank everyone for their assistance in this thread.

The design work has been completed, and will be silkscreened on the boards along with BkkCoins logo, as there is no case per se. Each unit will be free standing. Think skyscraper structure with the boards as the floors and standoffs as the steel pillars.

Batch #4 purchased, processing orders now, questions to follow.

Order #10425 for those keeping track.

hey steamboat, not sure if you thought of this yet, but I wouldn't mind you designing a logo or having your nick name on the case Once we all have these we can all honor your work and be reminded how awesome you are for doing what your doing
Thanks Steamboat,
your doing a great service for the community and we all appreciate everything your doing, its awesome to see someone as passionate or more passionate about this than we all are.
Thanks Again!

Steamboat, quick question on assembly / fab capacity - do you have an indication of how many K16 boards they could make in a day?

He purchased batch 4, but still has 4,000 chips available for purchase in batch 4.

If i join? will i be included in batch 4 or will there be batch 5 already? 3948 chips remaining or batch four done already sir?
thank you very much.