Topic: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware - page 204. (Read 423279 times)

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Well I've got like 10 different receive addresses in my wallet, to keep track of who was sending me money... how do I ever figure out from which address the payment was sent then :/

This thread is rather Long and I have not read it's entirety so apologize if this is a repeat question that's been answered.

I'm a bit confused about how the finished product will be handled.

My understanding is each board requires 16 chips.

Are we to purchase the chips now w/ BTC (0.086BTC per chip) and nothing more until delivery?

When they are delivered we will pay the cost of components + assembly?

Once assembly completes we pay shipping cost to have them delivered? Or do we only have option to have them hosted?

Again, apologies if this was cleared up before but what I've understood from what I read is that we do not actually receive the physical product. I'm thinking I misunderstood but want to be certain I will get the finished, physical product before starting the process.

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps in clearing up my confusion.

I'm guessing the one that's in your sig after the letters BTC....

? But then again, I could be wrong...

I just paid the 18.834 for 219 chips, but I don't understand the "sending address". Now I may be a total moron for not understanding this even though I've been active in BTC long enough, but how do I know what my sending address was?

Son of a.....

Yes, all that is due now is payment for the chips. I will add a section for hosting/assembly/testing. I do not want to commit to a pricing structure at this time. BTC will almost certainly be accepted. USD may be accepted. Anything else will most certainly not be accepted, so please stop asking to pay for your chips with lego's (you know who you are).

Alright, so say I want to buy 219 chips for the production of 13 assembled boards (that is 11 extra chips for possible faulty chips). So that I get working assembled boards shipped to my address.

Do I then just send payment for 219 chips, and mail the details as stated in the post? Where should I tell that I want the chips to be on assembled boards? Are the costs for the board assembly paid afterwards in USD?

Simply stated, yes. Avalon has not mentioned anything about a warranty for their chips, or any service at all for the purchase. Additionally, should they agree to replace faulty chips, the time required to ship the faulty units back to the manufacturer and receive new ones will cause significant delays in producing assembled miners.
Faulty chips have not, and will not, be included in the purchasing cost. This was stated quite clearly in the OP in the FAQ section:

The currency accepted for components and assembly is TBA. To find the price in BTC, divide $95 by the current market price.


Final pricing is currently being sourced. And will be available shortly. It is possible to determine the price based on the retail values of the components required. As we are purchasing wholesale, through distributors not available to the public, the price per unit will be less expensive, and the savings will be passed on to the end user. Retail pricing may be posted to give an idea of a high side price.

There are more than 100 chips in each batch set aside for backup purposes. The 100 in question are to ensure no one customer receives a disproportionate amount of faulty chips.
Backup chips are the customers responsibility in every batch.
Please verify the following: Klondike handles each board in two sets. If one chip completely breaks down, at worst it will only disable 8 chips. More likely to occur is the chip malfunctioning, but leaving the remaining 7 in the set functioning properly.

The following is very important, please take note.
The 100 chips will be used at my discretion, in an attempt to ensure no one receives a disproportionate amount of faulty chips should any be discovered. This does not relieve anyone of their responsibility to provide additional chips should a chip fail. There are chips in addition to the 100 available should a customer fail to purchase enough spares, which are available at the standard .086BTC per chip for batch 1-3. Any customer from the time of the original update who chooses not to purchase spare chips may do so during assembly for an increased price of .0939BTC.

Yes, the 100 chip safety net is being provided as service free of charge, and will be paid for from the proceeds of this group buy.
Chip testing may be free, it may cost a nominal fee. It depends on the protocol created, and who is doing it. In the event I personally do the testing, it most likely will be free.

I thank all of you for asking these questions. There are several scenarios which had not been evaluated prior to being brought up in the thread, and have proved invaluable.

All orders received, recorded, replied.

I will be out of the office most of tonight to work on the website and have meetings with the rest of the crew. I will check in from time to time to answer any questions.
   

Just ordered 34 chips for 2 K16 boards, thanks

Hey Steamboat, I have a question about the following:


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For purchased orders prior to today.
The above applies to all orders previously purchased, with the following exceptions.
Customers which have already made a purchase will have the option to purchase additional chips for the original price of BTC0.086, so long as there are chips available, and any chips purchased and not used may be refunded the purchase price or shipped along with the completed units.
In the event the reserve is depleted, customers with an incomplete amount of chips may opt to be refunded BTC0.0939 for the remainder.

In an effort to ensure there are enough reserve chips, and they are distributed evenly, the board add-on has had the following change.
Customers wishing to purchase additional chips to round their order up to the next full board must have at least 50% of the chips required.

Finally, 100 chips have been set aside in each purchase from both the reserves, and my personal purchase, to be used as equilibrium chips. In the event a customer experiences a disproportionate amount of faulty chips in comparison to the rest of the group, these chips will be used as replacements at no additional charge. Any requests for these chips to be used for your order will almost certainly ensure you do not receive them.

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So, as I understand it, you're setting aside 100 chips for orders 1-3 for "backup purposes".

For order 4, backup chips are the customer's responsibility right?

Obviously at this time, we do not what the possible behavior of the Klondike board will be with one "bad" chip. It may take out the other 3 chips around it or may not.

Anyway, I have a more complicated question.

What if there is a customer with multiple chips in multiple orders? I will use myself as an example here. I have 32 chips in order one and 48 chips in order two.

Say during testing, 2 chips are discovered bad on one of my order 1 boards. Then those two chips are covered by the 100 "backup chips" in order one for free? Right?

And then 2 chips are found bad on one of my boards in order 2, then those two chips are also covered by the 100 "backup chips" in order 2 for free?


I dunno, it's your deal and I'll go along with whatever, but that seems a bit too generous I suppose.

Technically, I could opt to take delivery of the bad unit as long as it hashes with most of its chips, and not use up the back-up chips? Do we have any idea of the cost of this testing yet?

Or, could I opt to have you hold onto the defective unit until order 2 chips are in and use my own chips for backup??? Of course, that would mean I'd be short for order 2, but that would be another problem...

Anyway, what I'm working around to asking is, there could, in theory, be a "cascading effect" for some unlucky bastard, if we run into a high failure rate of chips and the 100 "backup chips" are not enough. Then that becomes the responsibility of the customer to deal with it as best they see fit? Like having a unit hash at a lower speed, etc..

Sorry, a bunch of questions popped into my head.

Normally clocked chips are .282 Ghash and ~2 watts per chip. 16 chips would mean 4.512Ghash ~32 watts.

What would be the expected hash rate and power consumption of a 16-chip board?

Thats is very prudent. Just because the fabricators know what they are doing does not mean every part will be at 100% and just because they will give a warranty in some cases does not mean you will get replacements quickly.

No, the chips can only be purchased from Avalon in BTC, which means we can only pay for them as such. The other components and assembly will be coming from suppliers/shops that deal in USD, hence, you'll most likely be paying in USD for everything but the chips.

ordered 3 more chips to cover a potential 5% fail rate

Finally got to the final dozen, added to my previous orders, this should be enough chips for three full boards :-)

docjunior; 12; 1.032; 18cZbCaJwCfPp8KFgszy6EQFnAerYo8UYj

What is this in BTC (Assume since FAQ says only BTC this is also in BTC?)

PCB and components: $35 per 16 chip board
Assembly: $60 per 16 chip board

Basically looking for a batch 4 total in BTC for 16 chip board fully assembled with normal shipping

840 chips. pmt sent.

Just ordered 21 chips. Wish it were more, but I'll be thrilled with these

Payment and email sent.

Thanks!!!