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legendary
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I may have done this as well... can someone explain to me how to get the sending address, or point me to a thread??  Huh
I am looking at the blockchain.info on my TX, but see plenty of addresses, and none saying 'sending address'... I just used an address I knew I could sign with.

I had trouble with this at first as well, this should help:

--snip image--

If you see multiple sending addresses on the left, choose the one in the same row as the amount you sent on the right


Interesting... yes, I do see multiple on the left, each one with a different amount of BTC (when viewing in 'advanced' mode)... I may have to wait until I get home, so I can actually see the multiple addresses I have on my client. I assume I should be able to match up one of these addresses with an address I see on my bitcoin client/wallet?

Thanks for the help


Don't know if this relavent to your situation,but scroll down the 1st post on this thread.The "tutorial" is pretty good:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-usb-group-buy-orders-closed-pay-for-extra-195052
hero member
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Hello! I have a couple of questions:
1. I want to order 160 chips. For these chips I have to order 10 PCB with assembly of each. That's right? Will I get 10 *ready-to-work* complete mining devices?
2. How long the assembly&shipping date? For example, If I'll make my order today when I get these devices?
Thank you.

Each board contains 16 chips. 10 boards would be required to use all 160 chips. There are(will be shortly) several options to choose from, ranging from chips only (current) to full turnkey(coming soon).

The chips are scheduled to arrive 9-10 weeks from the 5/22/2013 purchase date. Turnaround should be no more than 72 hours. As this is the third batch, I expect the protocols used to be very fine tuned by then and take even less time.

Hey steamboat, I remember there being some mention of K1 boards being sourced.  Any information on that?  I'd buy a few more chips if there were plans for the K1.  Those are easier to produce en masse right?  Less stuff on the board?  No PSU required?
Depends on what you mean. In terms of density, ie; hashing power/production time, almost certainly not. You have to produce sixteen K1 boards to equal one K16.
For populating boards and getting these chips out the door, the K16 is the best compromise between hashing power, production time, and not pricing many people out of the mkt.
The K1 is more of a hobbyist toy, and the design is simple enough that most hobbyists can probably pull off their own assembly.
If not, there are a few threads by people who are intending to sell complete K1 units, chips included.

K1 and K16 talks will begin once the K16 is prototyped and working.

In a hobbyist perspective, the K1 is "easier" as you only have to plug n play in the USB slot. It is however less efficient in every regard.

Interesting... yes, I do see multiple on the left, each one with a different amount of BTC (when viewing in 'advanced' mode)... I may have to wait until I get home, so I can actually see the multiple addresses I have on my client. I assume I should be able to match up one of these addresses with an address I see on my bitcoin client/wallet?

Thanks for the help

Any of the sending addresses used in the transaction will suffice.

What happens if our board is assembled and fails testing because one or more chips are bad?  Does Avalon warranty the chips, so that they can be immediately replaced?  Should I order a couple extra chips just in case?

What happens if 1/16 chips are bad on the board -- will it hash at 15/16 capacity, or not work at all?

Board testing is to ensure the component parts are functioning properly. Neither I, nor the assembly house, can be responsible for dead Avalon chips as we have no control over the manufacturing process. That being said, I do not believe this will be a significant number of chips, but do advise purchasing extras. From what I understand from BkkCoins design, one faulty chip will most likely not take out the other 8 chips in it's series, so worst case 8/16, most likely 15/16.


For clarity, should we send you the first sending address in the email when the transaction has multiple sending addresses?

I can send updated emails if you need them for bookkeeping purposes.

Thanks.


Any of the sending addresses used is fine.

Could you give more details about hosting option please?
I assume it would be hosting and maintenance 24/7. Do you have any special room or something for that purpose? What are estimated electricity costs for one board per month in your location?

More details on the hosting option will be coming soon. The miners will be secured in a climate controlled room in a secure location, with remote access and switched PDUs.  The high estimate is $.115368 per day, or $3.47 per month.

do the k16's require a raspberry pi, or will a desktop PC be able to run them?

The K16s do not require a Raspi. Any desktop, laptop, or netbook, and certain routers will work as hosts.



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I would like to thank those of you who have taken the time to answer questions. I would like to answer each of you immediately, but one of the ways I'm keeping costs low is by running a skeleton crew with low overhead, and have to process emails, pm's, and questions in this thread as batches.
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do the k16's require a raspberry pi, or will a desktop PC be able to run them?

Any computer capable of runnning CGminer should do it (windows or Linux).
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do the k16's require a raspberry pi, or will a desktop PC be able to run them?
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Could you give more details about hosting option please?
I assume it would be hosting and maintenance 24/7. Do you have any special room or something for that purpose? What are estimated electricity costs for one board per month in your location?
cp1
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Stop using branwallets

I just used an existing address that I could sign from instead of the "sending address" off blockchain.info.  Technically, a Bitcoin transaction doesn't really have a sending address.  It's just easier to understand it that way.

Please do not do this. The sending address from the TX is what is used to verify the signature.

For clarity, should we send you the first sending address in the email when the transaction has multiple sending addresses?

I can send updated emails if you need them for bookkeeping purposes.

Thanks.


Just send the transaction id, it contains all the information.
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I just used an existing address that I could sign from instead of the "sending address" off blockchain.info.  Technically, a Bitcoin transaction doesn't really have a sending address.  It's just easier to understand it that way.

Please do not do this. The sending address from the TX is what is used to verify the signature.

For clarity, should we send you the first sending address in the email when the transaction has multiple sending addresses?

I can send updated emails if you need them for bookkeeping purposes.

Thanks.
hero member
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
What happens if our board is assembled and fails testing because one or more chips are bad?  Does Avalon warranty the chips, so that they can be immediately replaced?  Should I order a couple extra chips just in case?

What happens if 1/16 chips are bad on the board -- will it hash at 15/16 capacity, or not work at all?
My EE informed me that the fail rate of chips or board is pessimisticly 15% so yes it would be a good idea.
cp1
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Stop using branwallets
What happens if our board is assembled and fails testing because one or more chips are bad?  Does Avalon warranty the chips, so that they can be immediately replaced?  Should I order a couple extra chips just in case?

What happens if 1/16 chips are bad on the board -- will it hash at 15/16 capacity, or not work at all?
cp1
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Stop using branwallets
Interesting... yes, I do see multiple on the left, each one with a different amount of BTC (when viewing in 'advanced' mode)... I may have to wait until I get home, so I can actually see the multiple addresses I have on my client. I assume I should be able to match up one of these addresses with an address I see on my bitcoin client/wallet?

Thanks for the help


All the sending addresses are your addresses.  You have the private keys to all of them, so you can sign a message from all of them.
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Interesting... yes, I do see multiple on the left, each one with a different amount of BTC (when viewing in 'advanced' mode)... I may have to wait until I get home, so I can actually see the multiple addresses I have on my client. I assume I should be able to match up one of these addresses with an address I see on my bitcoin client/wallet?

Well, using Bitcoin-qt, I'm unable to locate the sending address at all.  The only way I've been able to find it is by taking the transaction ID and pasting it into blockchain.info.

hmmm … should probably do up a "how to find your sending address" post once we have this sorted out.
legendary
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Goonies never say die.
I may have done this as well... can someone explain to me how to get the sending address, or point me to a thread??  Huh
I am looking at the blockchain.info on my TX, but see plenty of addresses, and none saying 'sending address'... I just used an address I knew I could sign with.

I had trouble with this at first as well, this should help:

--snip image--

If you see multiple sending addresses on the left, choose the one in the same row as the amount you sent on the right


Interesting... yes, I do see multiple on the left, each one with a different amount of BTC (when viewing in 'advanced' mode)... I may have to wait until I get home, so I can actually see the multiple addresses I have on my client. I assume I should be able to match up one of these addresses with an address I see on my bitcoin client/wallet?

Thanks for the help
full member
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I may have done this as well... can someone explain to me how to get the sending address, or point me to a thread??  Huh
I am looking at the blockchain.info on my TX, but see plenty of addresses, and none saying 'sending address'... I just used an address I knew I could sign with.

I had trouble with this at first as well, this should help:



If you see multiple sending addresses on the left, choose the one in the same row as the amount you sent on the right

legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 2535
Goonies never say die.
I just used an existing address that I could sign from instead of the "sending address" off blockchain.info.  Technically, a Bitcoin transaction doesn't really have a sending address.  It's just easier to understand it that way.
Please do not do this. The sending address from the TX is what is used to verify the signature.

I may have done this as well... can someone explain to me how to get the sending address, or point me to a thread??  Huh
I am looking at the blockchain.info on my TX, but see plenty of addresses, and none saying 'sending address'... I just used an address I knew I could sign with.
hero member
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Hey steamboat, I remember there being some mention of K1 boards being sourced.  Any information on that?  I'd buy a few more chips if there were plans for the K1.  Those are easier to produce en masse right?  Less stuff on the board?  No PSU required?



Depends on what you mean. In terms of density, ie; hashing power/production time, almost certainly not. You have to produce sixteen K1 boards to equal one K16.

I see.  That makes sense.

For populating boards and getting these chips out the door, the K16 is the best compromise between hashing power, production time, and not pricing many people out of the mkt.

The K1 is more of a hobbyist toy, and the design is simple enough that most hobbyists can probably pull off their own assembly.

Makes sense; I'm just not that into moving tiny things around, my hands are too fat.

If not, there are a few threads by people who are intending to sell complete K1 units, chips included.

I'll take a look around.  Thanks.
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Hey steamboat, I remember there being some mention of K1 boards being sourced.  Any information on that?  I'd buy a few more chips if there were plans for the K1.  Those are easier to produce en masse right?  Less stuff on the board?  No PSU required?



Depends on what you mean. In terms of density, ie; hashing power/production time, almost certainly not. You have to produce sixteen K1 boards to equal one K16.

For populating boards and getting these chips out the door, the K16 is the best compromise between hashing power, production time, and not pricing many people out of the mkt.

The K1 is more of a hobbyist toy, and the design is simple enough that most hobbyists can probably pull off their own assembly.

If not, there are a few threads by people who are intending to sell complete K1 units, chips included.
hero member
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Hey steamboat, I remember there being some mention of K1 boards being sourced.  Any information on that?  I'd buy a few more chips if there were plans for the K1.  Those are easier to produce en masse right?  Less stuff on the board?  No PSU required?

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all purchases received, recorded, replied.
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Payment sent for 245 chips. 21.07BTC Still not sure about what other services I want. How long do I have to make that decision? Boards, assembly and paying shipping? What method is to be used for payment of shipping?

There is still time. An announcement will be made regarding that information with plenty of time to make a decision.
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Board assembly will be offered. Prices tentatively set at below $60.00.

Just to clarify-

Does this cover the cost of everything besides the chips to have a functioning board?

If so that is great news.  I was budgeting closer to $100 per board, looks like I'll be buying more chips...

Earlier he said it wouldn't cover hardware, like fan, standoff, psu.

Cp1 is correct. This only covers the PCB, components (other than the ASICs), and assembly.

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Additionally, these chips will be processed in a FIFO cue, which will begin once the minimum board run quota has been reached.   

Strongly considering sending you chips from other group buys, are you able to specify the minimum board run quota?

Currently it is 400 boards, pending confirmation with the assembly house.

Which part was updated today?

This, I believe:

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Chip purchase: BTC.086 per chip
PCB and components: $35 per 16 chip board
Assembly: $60 per 16 chip board
Testing: Price TBD. Testing will be available, with pricing determined once the procedure has been finalized.
Hosting: 8% flat fee based on miner production, plus electricity.

Correct, among other things. The date has been fixed. Apologies.

PCB and components: $35 + Assembly: $60 = $95.  How do we pay for this? USD direct to assembler or play the BTC to USD game and hope for an 'up value BTC' day? 

If steamboat is willing to convert BTC to USD that would be great, BUT I question the amount of 'lube' that will be needed when the IRS takes him in the 'back room'.  Anyone have ideas on how to do this 'smoothly' ?

This is something I have been working on, and one of the reasons payment is not an option at this time. I should have more information in the coming week. As a person, my position is extremely bullish, and I believe the price will go up, resulting in cheaper boards if kept in BTC. As a business, I have to do what's most responsible and mitigate the risk of BTC dropping in value and being left with the bill. Once I have ironed out the payment details, I will let you know.

Hey steamboat,
i'm considering 'doubling down' on my order.
1st order was batch 2.
2nd order may be batch 3.
Just wanted to know an estimated time in weeks between completed boards from batch 2 and completed boards from batch 3.
I would likely go ahead with another 12 boards if it looks like being a shortish period of time.
Thanks
Adam

10 days between batches 1 and 2, 11 days between 2 and 3.

I just used an existing address that I could sign from instead of the "sending address" off blockchain.info.  Technically, a Bitcoin transaction doesn't really have a sending address.  It's just easier to understand it that way.

Please do not do this. The sending address from the TX is what is used to verify the signature.


All purchases received, recorded, replied. Batch 3 about finished, and a couple large investors have shown interest in the next batch.
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