Topic: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware - page 64. (Read 423279 times)
I want my refund, 128 chips, they are useless and no deadline was stated, if anyone has not requested a refund they won't even make the refund amount back in mining at this point. So get that refund request in. Your screwed and your screwing others who know better. This whole thing should be shut down at this point and forced refunds should commence. I can't believe that steamboat would knowingly screw his customers like this, I would hope he would try to protect some of his customers investments. This is a fucking nightmare.
Yeah Yifu has thoroughly screwed everyone, I guess it is time for all the people affected to somehow try to do some damn thing about it, though its not clear what there is that can be done.
Not sure there is much to do against Steamboat though other than pressure him to nail Yifu to the wall somehow. They are both in the U.S., right? So maybe he can do something there...
-MarkM-
EDIT: I found the email with the refund form in it and filled out the form and submitted it, as the email did say there was no time limit to request a refund.
Not sure there is much to do against Steamboat though other than pressure him to nail Yifu to the wall somehow. They are both in the U.S., right? So maybe he can do something there...
-MarkM-
EDIT: I found the email with the refund form in it and filled out the form and submitted it, as the email did say there was no time limit to request a refund.
Well hopefully he can get refunds for all the batches of chips, especially since there is no indication Yifu ever actually did send any.
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
The way I understand it, KS was the "cutoff customer" and got some chips, and a partial refund. It isn't clear to me if the chips KS is now "stuck" with actually shipped yet or not.
We might know that if Steamboat would ever post an update. Although shipping status really doesn't mean much anyway without a working board.
I was mentioned earlier that perhaps someone should contact John Q to obtain real life contact information for Steamboat. I believe it's time to take that action. Steamboat is making a specific business decision to not contact us with current developments. With that decision comes consequences. It's time for him to face them.
Steamboat may not be ready to take action, but I am.
Well hopefully he can get refunds for all the batches of chips, especially since there is no indication Yifu ever actually did send any.
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
there is a cutoff? Shouldn't we have been made aware of this when originally offered a refund? This is getting ridiculous now.
He stated that he wouldn't force a refund on anyone. So there was bound to be a batch where some wanted a refund and some didn't.
Yes there was. AND Steamboat was questioned REPEATEDLY about what would happen in that instance. Like many other questions, he refused to address that one.
How is it right to NOT force refunds on anyone, but to force only certain people to TAKE chips they don't want? That is pretty hosed up if you ask me. Especially since Steamboat CANNOT at this point produce a working board, even if he HAS chips.
Yes, I'll say it again: AFAIK There is ZERO evidence of working examples of the K16. If you can refute this, Steamboat, now is the time. And if there ARE NO working boards, how can you force someone to take delivery of chips?
I'm pretty sure we've been abandoned here, boys.
there is a cutoff? Shouldn't we have been made aware of this when originally offered a refund? This is getting ridiculous now.
He stated that he wouldn't force a refund on anyone. So there was bound to be a batch where some wanted a refund and some didn't.
Definitely. Knowing Steamboat (through everything he has provided while everyone continuously uses their words bloodily), this is exactly his character--willing to sacrifice his $$(i.e.BTC) over yours.
there is a cutoff? Shouldn't we have been made aware of this when originally offered a refund? This is getting ridiculous now.
He stated that he wouldn't force a refund on anyone. So there was bound to be a batch where some wanted a refund and some didn't.
Received chip Refund Yesterday. Thanks SB!
Requested Sept/14
Requested Sept/14
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?
Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.
What are the criteria for being a "cutoff customer"?
I hate to bring it up, but didn't SB provide his identity to John K?
SB's identity is known, that's not the issue I think (no need to start a with hunt).
He put himself and us in a tight spot and it's starting to look like some of us will become "investors". I don't like that one bit and I hope we can have a chat about this before things start to get sour.
I hate to bring it up, but didn't SB provide his identity to John K?
Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.
With messaging like this and lack of any update material since 9/11 steamboat is looking more and more like a scammer every day.
One of the following should be true:
- Has no chips and no refund from Avalon.
- Doesn't have chips but has the refund proceeds to refund customers, but has not refunded customers.
- Has chips and has assembled them into boards, but has not sent them to customers.
- Has chips but has not assembled them into boards.
- Has chips and has assembled them into boards that don't work.
Commitments for open and timely communication have gone down the drain. No miners delivered and many group buy members left holding the bag.
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?
Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.
What are the criteria for being a "cutoff customer"?
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?
Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?
Refund received... bittersweet ending
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting
no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.
refund received today
batch: 4
refund requested: 11 Sep
chips: 163
paid: 14.018 BTC
received: 13.3171 BTC
would just like to say a sincere thank you to steamboat for all his efforts
there seems to be a lot of people with a warped sense of entitlement in this group buy - try reading the OP again, its certainly not misleading or disingenuous. I for one was not expecting a refund of any kind, and after looking at some of the other failed group projects, i am extremely grateful to have been refunded
gb
batch: 4
refund requested: 11 Sep
chips: 163
paid: 14.018 BTC
received: 13.3171 BTC
would just like to say a sincere thank you to steamboat for all his efforts
there seems to be a lot of people with a warped sense of entitlement in this group buy - try reading the OP again, its certainly not misleading or disingenuous. I for one was not expecting a refund of any kind, and after looking at some of the other failed group projects, i am extremely grateful to have been refunded
gb
Chips refund received today, Sep 30.
Requested on 14 Sep.
232 chips from Batch 4.
Thanks much, Steamboat!
Chip refund received - BTC1.3072 thanks
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