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legendary
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bigtimespaghetti.com
Did anyone get chips? There has been no word that Yifu even sent him any for real...

-MarkM-


SB said he would do an update on the forum "today" - 2 days ago.

I'm waiting for him, but I think he should post the info he gave me.

I think we'll all be relieved to have at least some communication from SB. Look forward to it.
legendary
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Think. Positive. Thoughts.
I wonder if Batch 3 is in question.... SB presumably has Batch 1 & 2 in hand now, Batch 5 & 6 are refunded.... most likely batch 4 is refunded as well. Leaving Batch 3... Yifu is now wanting to auction what he has left, so presumably he has shipped all outstanding orders (hopefully not SB batch 3!.)

Of course, just speculation until SB updates.
KS
sr. member
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Did anyone get chips? There has been no word that Yifu even sent him any for real...

-MarkM-


SB said he would do an update on the forum "today" - 2 days ago.

I'm waiting for him, but I think he should post the info he gave me.
full member
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Anyone ever running a group buy can take some lessons from whats happened here.  It seems fairly important to be clear about the cancellation policies both if the organiser cancels, the supplier cancels and buyers cancel.  I'm not criticising sb at all, this is all hindsight.
legendary
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Goonies never say die.
Received my 2nd chip refund 2 days ago... submitted on 9/13
Thanks SB!
legendary
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bigtimespaghetti.com
Well as long as refunds still are coming, that is something.

This radio silence is just counter productive. If there is a case of some refunds being ineligible, a process should have been adopted to minimise the exposure of everyone.. I know that people had concerns over this very situation occurring.
sr. member
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At least we know something is happening because people are still getting refunds.  So it's not like there's zero info.
That would be nice but it seems refunds have stopped at the 16th of September

Might want to read back a few pages.

What do you mean? One page ago, this was posted about a 9/16 refund request being "the cutoff customer":

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3275277
sr. member
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904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting

no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.

What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?

Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.

Sorry to hear that.

The problem is it made 100% financial sense to refund all 6 batches. Even Yifu stated in his communication 3-4 weeks ago that he could not recommend taking chips and it made clear sense to request a refund. Additionally Yifu offered a refund for all chip batches.

The responsible thing for SB to have done is to have requested a refund for all chips at that point, since that was the choice that absolutely made the most sense. But his own financial interest clearly got in the way, which is why not all batches were immediately refunded. This conflict of interest seems problematic to say the least  Embarrassed

This pretty much sums it up alright.
hero member
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At least we know something is happening because people are still getting refunds.  So it's not like there's zero info.
That would be nice but it seems refunds have stopped at the 16th of September

Might want to read back a few pages.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
At least we know something is happening because people are still getting refunds.  So it's not like there's zero info.
That would be nice but it seems refunds have stopped at the 16th of September
cp1
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Stop using branwallets
At least we know something is happening because people are still getting refunds.  So it's not like there's zero info.
legendary
Activity: 1153
Merit: 1000
904 chips
batch 4
refund requested 16/09 (before 16/09 in fact, but don't have the exact date anymore - possibly around 10/09)
54x K16 assembly+testing+hosting

no refund for chips received (and possibly no full refund at all either). I'm pissed off.

What happened? You're getting chips when you requested a refund? Were you notified that chips have been received by SB?

Yes, something like that, some chips some refund, with the added twist that I'm the "cutoff customer" while others have actually requested refunds after me. That's BS.

Sorry to hear that.

The problem is it made 100% financial sense to refund all 6 batches. Even Yifu stated in his communication 3-4 weeks ago that he could not recommend taking chips and it made clear sense to request a refund. Additionally Yifu offered a refund for all chip batches.

The responsible thing for SB to have done is to have requested a refund for all chips at that point, since that was the choice that absolutely made the most sense. But his own financial interest clearly got in the way, which is why not all batches were immediately refunded. This conflict of interest seems problematic to say the least  Embarrassed
legendary
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Did anyone get chips? There has been no word that Yifu even sent him any for real...

-MarkM-
sr. member
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Merit: 250
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I would like to begin by apologizing for the lack of timely communication the last couple of weeks. Our goal is to bring professionalism and honesty to the bitcoin marketplace, and no matter the reason, I have failed to provide adequate and timely customer service. For that I apologize.
Two weeks since an update. 

 Yep. Overdue for an update, I'd say.

I've gotta say I'm baffled. Most of this negativity could have been avoided simply by updating us. It seems as if he's completely lost interest. Not that I blame him. Except for that little matter of parts and assembly...

Oh, and those people who still didn't get refunded. And those that got chips but didn't want them. Wow.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
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I would like to begin by apologizing for the lack of timely communication the last couple of weeks. Our goal is to bring professionalism and honesty to the bitcoin marketplace, and no matter the reason, I have failed to provide adequate and timely customer service. For that I apologize.
Two weeks since an update. 

 Yep. Overdue for an update, I'd say.
member
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I would like to begin by apologizing for the lack of timely communication the last couple of weeks. Our goal is to bring professionalism and honesty to the bitcoin marketplace, and no matter the reason, I have failed to provide adequate and timely customer service. For that I apologize.

Two weeks since an update. 
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Developer
I'm gonna have to agree with taking action if we continually keep getting screwed out of updates and possible refunds.  I don't want to go that route, I think I'll wait a few more days, trying my damnedest to be patient, but our patience is screwing us...

Reminds me of Avalon.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I'm gonna have to agree with taking action if we continually keep getting screwed out of updates and possible refunds.  I don't want to go that route, I think I'll wait a few more days, trying my damnedest to be patient, but our patience is screwing us...
sr. member
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From the utter lack of communication, the only conclusion I can think of: Steamboat is intentionally staying silent in an attempt to get every single person to request a refund.  If this is the case, there would be no way to prove it, no way to establish negative intentions, and no way to hold steamboat accountable for the entire catastrophe.  If everyone requests a refund, then steamboat can simply give us partial refunds, recoup as much of his losses as possible, and move on to never do anything like this ever again.

I was holding out up until today.  My investment was pretty minuscule, especially compared to others, and losing the small amount of money wasn't that big of a deal as long as I got some type of hardware to play with (Even if that hardware was 100% useless).  I have gotten to the point where I truly believe not one single miner will ever be produced, and steamboat is working towards a 100% user requested refund status.

I have requested a refund as of today, 10/01/2013.  Now we shall see if anything happens.

If he wants everyone to take a refund, he should just say so. In fact, he just say something, ANYTHING.

Basically, he's hoping some miracle will happen that will keep him from having to refund the pathetic 25% assembly he already offered. Which coincidentally he's never mentioned how to claim.

If no update is forthcoming in the next day or so, I WILL begin taking action. If I'm gonna get screwed on assembly, I'm gonna make it pretty ugly. REALLY ugly. No more Mr. Nice guy.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
From the utter lack of communication, the only conclusion I can think of: Steamboat is intentionally staying silent in an attempt to get every single person to request a refund.  If this is the case, there would be no way to prove it, no way to establish negative intentions, and no way to hold steamboat accountable for the entire catastrophe.  If everyone requests a refund, then steamboat can simply give us partial refunds, recoup as much of his losses as possible, and move on to never do anything like this ever again.

I was holding out up until today.  My investment was pretty minuscule, especially compared to others, and losing the small amount of money wasn't that big of a deal as long as I got some type of hardware to play with (Even if that hardware was 100% useless).  I have gotten to the point where I truly believe not one single miner will ever be produced, and steamboat is working towards a 100% user requested refund status.

I have requested a refund as of today, 10/01/2013.  Now we shall see if anything happens.
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