Topic: ₿ LIST ₿ Bitcointalk's ESCROW providers: Ranking & Blacklist ☠ Avoid Scam ☠ - page 13. (Read 43547 times)

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Hi

I own/operate BitcoinMalaysia.com.

As for BitAngels.co, I'm a just member. The site is owned by David Johnston.

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@ninjaboon

Do you own/operate BitcoinMalaysia.com and BitAngels.co?

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How can I put my name on the list?

I know JohnK's busy moving now and that's given me some business.
JohnK's also on our local Whatsapp group that talks about everything on Bitcoin.
Had a 36 BTC escrow completed yesterday and I also run an automated escrow service at BTC-ASIA(see sig).
Thanks.

ninjaboon Reputation Thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ninjaboon-reputation-thread-240370

Trust summary for ninjaboon:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=64005

Blam. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kluge-escrow-285211

I've got to keep the rules posted above:


Do you have/started any announcement thread about your service?

Could I be added since I'm getting a lot of referrals with John away for a bit? Free/tips unless Cas' three-party escrow tool is used, then a minimum of .1BTC or 1% of transaction, whichever's greater.

Escrow sheet w/ previous & current transactions @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdFFTc0tFbWVxUTZFVzVOMWxzV3pkclE&output=html

(BTC only, won't touch anything where a chargeback or account reclaim is possible, GPG available on request)

I don't know about that thread.

I could not find the announcement thread to Mr. SebastianJu's escrow service.

As mentioned above:


@gweedo


Ok. No problem.

@KingOfSports


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People have used me to escrow in the past (highest was ~$2000 worth of BTC). Reputation thread link is in my signature. Feel free to add me to the list if I meet your expectations.

Please don't add me to the list, I am currently not doing escrows anymore as per request from my legal team.

Thank you.

this thread still useful?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716

BTW, SebastianJu is also doing escrow.

And your score is not bad. Congrats!

BTW, more members will be on the list soon...

Hey.. I didn't know I was on this list until now. Thanks.

Not a bad idea overall.

April 8th, 2020: Blazr has been flagged (and removed from the list until issue is solved):

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=51908

Nov 10th, 2020: monbux seems not doing escrow in spite of his/her "escrow thread remaining open. This has led to dozens of scams over the last 2 years by Monbux impersonators. Any time you are approached by someone on Telegram claiming to be Monbux, you are being set up for a scam". So monbux has been flagged (and removed from the list until issue is solved):

Further info here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55440114

Update - Jan 5th, 2021: The situation has been solved as monbux made one final post on his escrow thread, closing down the service: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55894427

Apr 27th, 2023:

→yogg is out as several reputation problems emerged and that user is nowhere to be found. References and flags:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=140827

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5434506

→bL4nkcode is out due to some reputation issues and that seems to be inactive for a while. References and flags:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=765632

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-charity-and-its-funds-5376475

→PsychoticBoy is out due to some reasonable evidence that shows the user's account was for sale or might even be hacked. References: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=54752

Jun 10th, 2023:

→Dabs is delisted because he has an active 15k USDT no collateral loan not repaid yet.
Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61219066

P.S. The situation is aggravated considering some evidences of financial problems.
Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dabs-54791-is-a-habituated-pm-beggar-doing-public-charity-and-escrow-5405127

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If you know any scammer acting as an escrow provider or if you've been scammed, please report here!

I'll post/update the names/IDs here.

₿ WHAT IT IS: People trading goods and services can add a tool in order to "increase" the trust on both sides: customers and vendors. That may be done by employing an escrow system for all transaction. That additional step gives both sides some garantees.

₿ HOW IT IS: This means that when you make an order the coins are deducted from your wallet, moves into a temporary escrow account, then after the vendor sends the order, he confirms it was sent. When you receive the package, you confirm it being received and the vendor claims the coin.

₿ WHAT IF: If for whatever reason you do not receive the package you can send the order into resolution, where you and the vendor can resolve the problem or should that not work, the escrow service will step in an resolve the issue. Keep in mind this system is to prevent fraud on both the end of the seller and the buyer.

₿ SUMMARY: Escrow services will not grant you 100% scam proof, but it is definetly an additional security layer in order to avoid coin losses and fraudsters.

All parameters here are subject to change, this is a work in progress...

If you got an idea, share it with us!

This is not meant to be an exhaustive list, just an preview for clients/customers in order to avoid scammers.

We cannot guarantee any member's reliability neither that your coins will be 100% safe. Due diligence is still necessary, do yours! DYOR!



Rank: the member's position on the list.

Escrow provider: who's offering the service.

Cryptocurrency: which coin the escrow provider works with.

Deals with: Does the escrow provider accept deals with crypto, tangible goods, digital goods, group buying, campaigns, ICO, gambling, services?

Escrow Provider Rating Grade → Thresholds per grade

AAA (Prime) → 15pts
AA (High grade) → 12pts
A (Upper medium grade) → 9pts
BBB (Lower medium grade) → 6pts
BB (Speculative) → 3pts
B (Highly speculative) → 1pt
CCC (Substantial risk) → 0

Score:


P.S. Contributions about improving the algorithm will be much appreciated.

Trust: the 1st number (left to right) the escrow provider got at bitcointalk.org Marketplace trust system (as it's shown to me → Financisto).

P.S. Escrow providers with overall negative ratings (1st number left to right) will not be accepted on the list (the same goes for those already tagged as "SCAMMER" by community staff).

Brand new members with "Newbie" and "Jr. Member" status won't be accepted on the list as well: go get some activity/merit/trust first!

Activity: the number shown at that indicator (under member's name/avatar). It shows how active (and for how long) that member is at bitcointalk.org community. Members without activity for over a year will be delisted.

Merit: the number shown at that indicator (under member's name/avatar). It shows if that member posts good stuff at bitcointalk.org community.

Recognition: The most recognized profiles which is calculated using: by the Bitcointalk Public Information Project - BPIP.

Amount (min→max): minimum and maximum amount of coins allowed/accepted while using the escrow service (in BTC or USD).

Fees: cost for using the escrow service.

Sign.: Does the escrow provider work with PGP signed messages? And/Or does he or she sign messages from an already staked^(b) cryptocurrency's address?

P.S. Signed messages provide additional security measures in order to grant the client some authenticity, integrity, and non-repudiation.

₿ Application form ₿

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If you wanna apply for this list, please post here (or send me PM with) the following info:

1) Which cryptocurrencies do you work with?

2) Do you accept deals with crypto, tangible goods, digital goods, group buying, campaigns, ICO, gambling, services?

3) Minimum and Maximum amount of coins allowed/accepted while using your escrow service (in BTC or USD);

4) Your fees;

5) Do you work with PGP signed messages OR signed messages from an already staked^(b) cryptocurrency's address?

6) Link to your "escrow announcement thread or website".

₿ Notes ₿

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(b) Stake your cryptocurrencies' addresses here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stake-your-bitcoin-address-here-996318