Topic: List of ongoing scams - page 16. (Read 19653 times)

Wait how the hell did I get dragged into your post?

You've got to be kidding LOL.

Edit: Nvm this was a ploy by Coinroll to try and get them more traffic. Very bad. Have proof if needed

Bit777 - Misleading, calling themselves "industry leading" , not provably fair whatsoever, lack of verifiables of the actual bets processed, can potentially over-inflate their own statistics, a PHP bot decides whether you win or lose.


Sorry tmbp but we don't even use PHP, not sure how you came to this conclusion... I won't even comment the rest. Too bad you are littering the forum this way.

I can tell you right now this is not the best path to take with this tmbp

Without any proof this can be considered libel. Being judge and jury won't earn you any love either, I know this as I did it to myself before correcting my "Coin Canary" thread to be a collection of facts instead of an executioners stump

The problem isn't with them selling stamps or being a postal service, the problem is that they misrepresent themselves as a jewel dealer in order to appeal to people who are exclusively interested in jewels (Bitcoins).

ripple is not a scam you guys just have no clue what ripple is.


imagine the world where the postal service at first gave out free stamps for you to be able to send your paycheque from one person to another for free, and then they start saying the stamps were worth a few pennies to cover their expenses.

you lot of inept people shouting the postal service is a scam don't even realise the postal service exists to transmit finances between people. but complain that the stamps value is a currency and has been printed on mass purely to make the postal service money.

wel that is ripple. ripple is a peer-to-peer exchange where just 1 XRP is enough to transmit more then 1 transaction between people/exchanges. so having just 1000 xrp is enough for many many transactions. yet you lot of inept people dont use ripple for its intended purpose. but purely to trade the stamps(xrp) as an item of value.

please get out of the gutters and realise that xrp is not a blockchain, you cant mine it!! it is just a database coin much like amazon coin. use XRP as the transaction fee for exchanging bitcoin to fiat. and stop complaining that ripple(postal service) is making money seling stamps(xrp).

Find me one person who did not receive their winnings.

I'm not associated. At all. But they paid me. Imagine that.

How are you associated with them again?

If I have a casino and I claim to have gave out millions of dollars in winnings when in reality I only gave out about 20 bucks I am a scammer regardless of paying out people or not. Because if someone bets while under the impression that we're a multi million dollar company instead of a VPS in some nerds basement the risk is a lot higher in reality than what that someone had assumed, otherwise he would most likely have not used your service and not took the risk, it perhaps would even be appropriate to demand a refund since the service is not as advertised.

They have tackled that issue with fiat by regulations, here no casino follows these regulations thus transparency is required, if you want to operate as if you have regulations but really you do not as well as no transparency then you are not only illegal but immoral.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=pWyHiV3l3MA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpWyHiV3l3MA

If they pay they aren't a scam. You can't label a company or person a scam because you think they will be in the future. Are you Mrs Cleo?

In Bitcoin the people are the regulators.

Transparent to a customer? No.  They wouldnt,.

To a regulator, yes. Are you a regulator? Nope.

No but if your favorite restaurant wouldn't be transparent about their earnings the owner would be behind bars right now...

You obviously know jack shit. Anyone who reads this as fact is an idiot as well. My fave restaurant doesn't reveal its famous recipe....obviously a scam and they are using arsenic.

They could have showed some evidence that the bets are legitimate, (e.g. a txid list) but they haven't, and they won't, because they are a scam.

They may have paid out until now but the fact that they claim such amounts without any evidence is extremely disturbing and disingenuous, it implies that we should not doubt them only because they have said so.

This renders them a high risk casino in my eyes and I wouldn't bet in it.

Pretty sure PrimeDice is not a scam. It got a lot of attention on launch and it has a lot of bets placed, payouts have been paid to everyone.
EDIT : And also very sure Zaih is not a scammer, and I post there often so I suppose I belong to the members, but I am not in any way a scammer.

You making a list of what you think are scams claiming to protect people is lol if you just throw guesses at them. Prime dice has been paying out all winners. Show me someone who was scammed please.

Sorry forgot our beloved BFL, also need to add a couple of exchanges that take 2 days to process your order and if Bitcoin rises in the price since they have bought it for your money they will send your money back and claim you tried to cheat them.

Prove prime dice is a scam......

Here I will present the current list of ongoing scams in order to protect the community, it has been stripped of all non essentials to keep the community safe from scams, I will hold all Bitcoin businesses for full responsibility:

Legend:
Red - Most likely a scam.
Orange - Moderate chance of being a scam.
Yellow - Small chance of being a scam.
Blue - Was initially listed as scam, was whitelisted after review.


Wheresyouredge.com - Pending review, DO NOT trust ANY bitcoin poker sites, there are currently none that I know of that use provable fairness.

777coin.com - This casino is beginning to acquire some reputation, certainly better than other scams.

MPEX - Despite the fact that the security never actually stole or scammed members the owner Mircea Popescu is a disgusting person that uses the term "nigger" on his blog while also constantly putting people down and generally being a complete snob. Lied multiple times about being the owner of a successful company, if it wasn't for Satoshidice releasing stock in MPEX this person would be selling potatoes somewhere in Romania.

SealsWithClubs - Uses ancient software, game-play connection is not secure.

Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.

Update: If it isn't obvious that all the bets are submitted by bots at this point I don't know when it will be, dooglus has blantly refused to provide any evidence out of concerns of "privacy", thank you for an additional layer of privacy over the Bitcoin protocol you scammer.

SatoshiMines - Source of entropy is bad, the house can easily bruteforce the hash to make you win/lose. Including "random" non-preselected strings in the hash render the whole process insecure.

Bcpoker.eu - The lack of professionalism of the operators of this website is astonishing NO-ONE should play for real money on this website, I discourage any n00b for opening "mah vary own cas1no" and clearly people keep ignoring my advice as I see new entries of people looking to open a Bitcoin casino for a couple hundred bucks popping up on a daily basis. The owners are known to leak personal information. It is apparently registered by a teenager under the fake name "Adam Gergo Kovacs" as well as a fake address.

Satoshidice - IS based on irrefutable mathematics that behave in an honest manner under normal conditions, sometimes bets are delayed by 24 hours giving the house the window to bruteforce a hash that will be the most beneficial, the house or anyone else that receives access to the secret list ahead of time can submit selective bets and get a significantly lower house edge.

UPDATE 31/7/13: SatoshiDice is officially a scam ladies and gentlemen! Proof:


Almost anyone associated with them speaks in an intellectually appalling language and is full of unapologetic loose cannons, except Voorhees himself.

Bit777 - Misleading, calling themselves "industry leading" , not provably fair whatsoever, lack of verifiables of the actual bets processed, can potentially over-inflate their own statistics, a PHP Microsoft IIS/7.5 bot decides whether you win or lose. Encourages disgusting people to post sexually explicit posts that aim to lower the social status or attempt to make other members feel ashamed. They actually use Javascript "alert" as a part of their interface, to anyone with at least half a brain it would be MORE than enough to

   
Bitcoin-Roulette.com - Shamelessly stole the CSS off another website, doesn't look legit at all, seem to have ripped multiple people off.

PrimeDice - Popped up a week ago, claiming to have totaled 11,081 BTC in wagers as of 26-May-2013, domain wasn't even indexed as of a couple days ago. NO verifiables of ANY bets whatsoever. I am going to assume that a fraction of the bets is actually real and others are fakes. Backed up by co-scammers like forum member Zaih that doesn't admit to be associated directly. The 28 page thread is mostly spam between 4 members associated with the scam.

Shilling has been shown to take place in the official thread, this will be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

As of now, Primedice is provably (un)fair.

Satoshibet.com - Using shills and being slimey dirtbags that promise people guaranteed winnings by showing fake loopholes through one of their shills https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-i-turned-0443btc-into-20btc-at-satoshibetcom-guide-256606, also fake Total Winnings, Games and Jackpot which is typical to scamming websites.

Tradefortress - Member "Tradefortress" added to the list as per his own request, enjoy your time here you glorious winged douche.

BitcoinVideoCasino  - Fake statistical data as well.

Ripple - Pyramid scheme, homepage contains blatant lies, complete misrepresentation.

Butterflylabs (BFL) - Apparently manufactured the ASICS and mined with them themselves instead of shipping them until it no longer became profitable, owner is an ex-con (and not the good kind either) who has been convicted of mail fraud, forum members inaba and BFL_Josh are fellow fraudsters.

Cryoniks - This sums everything up nicely:


BitBet.us - Seemingly innocent but will scam and make money off large bets, forum member MPOE-PR is related to the scam, SatoshiDice is also related to the people who run the scam. The group of people that run the scam are mostly trashy, condescending and prideful for a reason that shall remain a mystery to us. It appears that this is the reason why the reputation of SatoshiDice was questioned by other forum members like "mem".

Bitbox.mx - Fraudulent, deceptive Terms of Service are no excuse to hold on to the funds of the customers while demanding official documents out of the blue. The customer should be able to get a refund in case he refuses to provide the documents. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-got-scammed-by-bitboxmx-227121


I will occasionally dig up all the trash on casinos/services and post it here publicly.

EDIT: New websites are popping up everyday, the general rule of thumb is stay clear of any non-vet website and apply common sense.