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Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 09:35:04 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 26, 2021, 08:51:27 AM

are you implying that whatever he did that led him to quote a post from RapTarX would be so embarrassing to him that he wouldn't share it here in order to clear things up? Does what he wrote sound believable?

In my book, it's not that embarrassing. It's possible it's true, but not daring to "confess" makes it sounds less believable in my book. All of this could have been resolved 1.5 years ago.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 26, 2021, 11:13:05 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

Quote from: akhjob on September 26, 2021, 06:37:34 AM

But all he could say regarding this topic was that it was a mistake from his side and that he can't explain and convince the DT's why he misclicked .

I just received his explanation by PM. I can't know if it's true or not. What is still very disappointing, is that Little Mouse doesn't dare to owe up to what he did in public.
@JollyGood: since there is absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by RapTarX, please consider removing the negative feedback you gave him. What Little Mouse quoted could have happened to anyone.

Yes Loyce, I am looking in to that and will see if a clear distinction can be made between Little Mouse and RapTarX/RapTarXalt then will revise accordingly. It still is not clear if Little Mouse made an honest error or whether there was more to it since Little Mouse has a habit of sending PMs but is not posting openly. I just want to be sure before modifying or removing the tags Wink

I've seen Little Mouse is very much active in the reputation board and most often posted other's accusation threads but inactive for his own case.
It seems kind of weird that Little Mouse doesn't want to say anything in public, I don't know why! It would have been appropriate if he had not been active on the reputation board, but such behavior does not match with his actual nature.

BTW, he may have made a good argument in the message he sent LoyceV and hopefully, a self-made hero member like him will not be underestimated.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on September 25, 2021, 01:34:52 PM

^ At first glance, it seems that JollyGood may have settled his personal grievances here.

It could have happened a personal Irritation has been shaken here.
Or JollyGood may not have noticed the incident before and suddenly it came to his notice when he saw the change in his trust list. I'm thinking positively.

"Little Mouse" & "RapTarX" Maybe they're both the same person, maybe not again. But, It is very unreasonable to give negative trust when someone has an alt account.
If they have not done any shady behavior and do not exchange merit, a maximum of neutral trust can be given, they do not deserve negative trust at all.

And yes, @Little Mouse should have commented and argued here. but for some special reason, I don't know what! he/she may be avoiding it.

No personal grievances were settled, it is not my style.

Quote from: borovichok on September 25, 2021, 01:42:43 PM

People on DT, after the Talibans, are the most powerful and dangerous people on the planet right now; people's reputations are being ruined for not stealing or scamming, but for having an alt account, isn't that insane? I believe the forum owner stated that you are allowed to have many accounts as long as you are not stealing or harming others. One of the reasons we don't have a decentralized exchange is because of this. Humans abuses everything.

One of the most preposterous statements I have read from any member in a long time, so much so it does not deserve any more commenting beyond what I already said.

Quote from: RapTarX on September 25, 2021, 07:44:51 PM

Can you all please stop accusing me alt of Little Mouse? If anyone has done something suspicious is Little Mouse. Why would I carry with the tag then; I already have stated who I'm, who I'm not. Should I again say the same?

Quote from: RapTarX on February 28, 2020, 01:22:39 PM

I have only one alt here; RapTarXalt
^^^^
After reading this thread, I guess Little Mouse must have explanation which he didn't yet. None but Little Mouse can say what's wrong with him.

I had even sent PM to Little Mouse a few times for an explanation but never got a response from him.

@JollyGood
Why did you suddenly bring this drama again, man? I haven’t done anything wrong but why did you tag me? Can you please remove the negative feedback from my profile and leave me out of this drama?

Yes I will look in to this matter later this evening and revise the feedback for all three accounts if warranted. If I recall correctly it was Little Mouse that connected you to his account but if that was a mistake not a slip up I will definitely remove the negative trust. Kindly allow me a couple of hours.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

Quote from: akhjob on September 26, 2021, 06:37:34 AM

But all he could say regarding this topic was that it was a mistake from his side and that he can't explain and convince the DT's why he misclicked .

I just received his explanation by PM. I can't know if it's true or not. What is still very disappointing, is that Little Mouse doesn't dare to owe up to what he did in public.

@JollyGood: since there is absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by RapTarX, please consider removing the negative feedback you gave him. What Little Mouse quoted could have happened to anyone.

Yes Loyce, I am looking in to that and will see if a clear distinction can be made between Little Mouse and RapTarX/RapTarXalt then will revise accordingly. It still is not clear if Little Mouse made an honest error or whether there was more to it since Little Mouse has a habit of sending PMs but is not posting openly. I just want to be sure before modifying or removing the tags Wink

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 26, 2021, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

What is still very disappointing, is that Little Mouse doesn't dare to owe up to what he did in public.

I'm not going to ask you to explain what Little Mouse said in his PM, but are you implying that whatever he did that led him to quote a post from RapTarX would be so embarrassing to him that he wouldn't share it here in order to clear things up? Does what he wrote sound believable?

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

@JollyGood: since there is absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by RapTarX, please consider removing the negative feedback you gave him. What Little Mouse quoted could have happened to anyone.

I second that request to JollyGood without even knowing what the PM said. There's no reason to neg someone for frivolous reasons, and both Little Mouse and RapTarX have been solid, productive members of the forum as far as I can tell. They don't need an unwarranted neg on their profiles.

I will look at it as soon as possible The Pharmacist and update in the thread within the next couple of hours.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 09:35:04 AM

Absolutely agree, but I think JollyGood is past the point where he should be on DT, given how many wrongly-given feedbacks he's handed out. Again, that's why I excluded him from my trust list. I think he's abusing his power as a DT member--for what reason, I have no idea, but it doesn't matter.

I also think Little Mouse should chime in here, whether he wants to explain his side of the story or not. He's involved in this drama and got a neg from JollyGood, so I'm not sure why he wouldn't do that.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 26, 2021, 08:51:27 AM

In my book, it's not that embarrassing. It's possible it's true, but not daring to "confess" makes it sounds less believable in my book. All of this could have been resolved 1.5 years ago.

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I'll add one more argument for JollyGood: tags like these reduce the overall quality of your Sent feedback, which leads to less support for your DT-position, which means that all the good you're doing might at some point be wasted. Example: Timelord2067's feedback. The good no longer outweighs the bad, so barely anyone sees his feedback. That's a pity.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

What is still very disappointing, is that Little Mouse doesn't dare to owe up to what he did in public.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 06:54:15 AM

@JollyGood: since there is absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by RapTarX, please consider removing the negative feedback you gave him. What Little Mouse quoted could have happened to anyone.

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Quote from: akhjob on September 26, 2021, 06:37:34 AM

But all he could say regarding this topic was that it was a mistake from his side and that he can't explain and convince the DT's why he misclicked .

I just received his explanation by PM. I can't know if it's true or not. What is still very disappointing, is that Little Mouse doesn't dare to owe up to what he did in public.

@JollyGood: since there is absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by RapTarX, please consider removing the negative feedback you gave him. What Little Mouse quoted could have happened to anyone.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 26, 2021, 03:34:28 AM

I'm slightly disappointed by Little Mouse not responding. I spent quite some time reading through this topic, so I would appreciate a straight answer.

At first, I was disappointed too and when this topic started, I urged him to make a post here or atleast respond to RaptarX. But all he could say regarding this topic was that it was a mistake from his side and that he can't explain and convince the DT's why he misclicked . And it made a bit of sense at that time.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 25, 2021, 01:42:43 PM

I believe the forum owner stated that you are allowed to have many accounts as long as you are not stealing or harming others.

Even stealing is allowed by the forum rules, as scams are not moderated.

I'm slightly disappointed by Little Mouse not responding. I spent quite some time reading through this topic, so I would appreciate a straight answer.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 10:53:49 AM

@Little Mouse: you haven't responded in this topic. Can you tell me what's your story behind this post?

That's definitely weird and I'd sure like to hear an explanation for that--if it's a goof-up, I don't know how it was made.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 10:53:49 AM

Today, JollyGood left this feedback:

Considering I just bumped this topic after 15 months, this looks like retaliation, which I don't consider correct use of the Trust system. I haven't seen any hard evidence of any of the accounts involved participating in the same signature campaign.

I don't agree with JollyGood's feedback on these accounts at all. There's no need to leave a negative if alt accounts haven't been participating in the same campaign, and it looks like Little Mouse and RapTarX were in/applying for different ones. This is the reason I excluded JollyGood from my trust list; he has a very bad habit of leaving overly harsh feedback (to put it mildly).

Quote from: borovichok on September 25, 2021, 01:42:43 PM

That's just a wee bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? After all, we're talking about a single member (JollyGood) leaving negative trust on 3 accounts suspected of being alts in this case. Comparing DT members as a group to the Taliban is just straight-up wrong.

Quote from: borovichok on September 25, 2021, 01:42:43 PM

I believe the forum owner stated that you are allowed to have many accounts as long as you are not stealing or harming others.

You don't have to believe it. Just read LoyceV's last post in this thread where he quoted Theymos saying exactly that:

Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 10:53:49 AM

For what it's worth: theymos agrees with hiding your identity:

Quote from: theymos on August 28, 2012, 05:17:31 PM

I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

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Quote from: RapTarX on February 28, 2020, 01:22:39 PM

I have only one alt here; RapTarXalt
^^^^
After reading this thread, I guess Little Mouse must have explanation which he didn't yet. None but Little Mouse can say what's wrong with him.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 10:53:49 AM

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Considering I just bumped this topic after 15 months, this looks like retaliation, which I don't consider correct use of the Trust system. I haven't seen any hard evidence of any of the accounts involved participating in the same signature campaign.
@Little Mouse: you haven't responded in this topic. Can you tell me what's your story behind this post?

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15 month bump!

This case was brought to my attention. I read most of this topic again, but unfortunately several posts are about different users, which makes the relevant data harder to find.

Quote from: RapTarX on February 28, 2020, 01:22:39 PM

I don't know who is Little Mouse. I have only one alt here; RapTarXalt, hence, the tag on my profile is a wrong one

The evidence works only in one direction: even though the post made by Little Mouse makes it looks like they're alts, there's no post from RapTarX indicating the same.

Let's say Little Mouse posts this:

Quote from: LoyceV on September 18, 2017, 10:19:00 AM

Username: LoyceV
Post Count: 2189 (excluding this one)
BTC Address: 1Paydays4YWcXghQjwPPQH4mk7y4mGFV14

Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

I can't possibly prove I'm not an alt of Little Mouse! Anyone can create such a quote for any reason. It could as innocent as clicking the wrong quote button, and not reading back properly. Or it could be as evil as trying to frame someone.

Quote from: akhjob on February 29, 2020, 02:02:45 AM

I wouldn't agree with a person having alt accounts and acting like different persons.

For what it's worth: theymos agrees with hiding your identity:

Quote from: theymos on August 28, 2012, 05:17:31 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on June 27, 2020, 03:10:41 PM

Looking at how it all happened, the accounts maybe alts but what have they done that is considered shady, untrustworthy or unacceptably by the community?

Asking the real questions here

Somewhere in the past week, Little Mouse did this:

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Trust list for: Little Mouse (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (572 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2021-09-25_Sat_06.07h)

Little Mouse Trusts these users' judgement:
15. Removed ~~JollyGood (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 951 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)~~

Little Mouse Distrusts these users' judgement:
15. NEW ~JollyGood (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 951 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.

Today, JollyGood left this feedback:
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Considering I just bumped this topic after 15 months, this looks like retaliation, which I don't consider correct use of the Trust system. I haven't seen any hard evidence of any of the accounts involved participating in the same signature campaign.

@Little Mouse: you haven't responded in this topic. Can you tell me what's your story behind this post?

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Quote from: Rotten Egg on June 26, 2020, 12:42:01 PM

Users in question were marked by DT. But, since Lauda's exclusion, those marks are gone. Other DT members may consider tagging again.

I don't know what your purpose is when touching this thread, but I forgot to lock it after receiving a request to unlock it from before. My purpose in creating this topic is to clarify the relationship between the two accounts. And I insist that we proved it, they are alt account. I don't think someone needs to keep tagging.

Quote from: eddie13 on June 26, 2020, 02:06:43 PM

I hate it when people lock topics..
Like why?

Why should I lock and why not to lock? It doesn't really matter Cheesy

I usually lock it when it's done, but I'll open it when someone requests it.

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on June 27, 2020, 03:10:41 PM

Looking at how it all happened, the accounts maybe alts but what have they done that is considered shady, untrustworthy or unacceptably by the community?

Depending on what you think, I think he cheated on using two accounts to make money from signature campaigns, maybe 3, or more, who knows? so I don't accept it, but maybe others think it is okay, so they ignore it. Nothing really hard!

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Quote from: Rotten Egg on June 26, 2020, 12:42:01 PM

Users in question were marked by DT. But, since Lauda's exclusion, those marks are gone. Other DT members may consider tagging again.

Boss, maybe some of us missed something or some evidence in this thread. So what should we tag them for exactly?
1. Being Alts?
2. Cheating signature campaigns/bounties?
3. Scamming?
4. Ban evasion?
5. Merit abuse?
6. Trust abuse?

Looking at how it all happened, the accounts maybe alts but what have they done that is considered shady, untrustworthy or unacceptably by the community?

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on March 01, 2020, 06:55:32 AM

so the question is whether I should let this topic continue or lock it Huh

I hate it when people lock topics..
Like why?

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on March 01, 2020, 08:44:27 AM

Maybe you're right for this problem, but you're wrong about the way of thinking Undecided

those who are a little more intelligent would certainly still bypass it Huh

Intelligence is not the word for those greedy people who always find ways to cheat, in fact, honest people are always smarter than greedy people, that's why fraudsters are always Caught in this forum, one after another. Smart people have thousands of ways to make money, and fraudsters have only one way - cheat.

Edit for more: The truth - there are more greedy people than intelligent people, that's why things move in a bad way without changing.

You have your own opinion, I have my own - a hundred people may have different views on one and the same thing, which does not necessarily mean that everyone is right or that everyone is wrong. I will disagree with "fraudsters are always Caught in this forum", because I believe there are quite a number of intelligent ones who know how not to create any links between their alt accounts.

I think this discussion goes to the OT, because it should be about Little Mouse and RapTarX accounts.

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Quote from: legendster on February 29, 2020, 02:41:46 PM

Wait, Little Mouse is in DT???

Seems like one of the Title of LoyceV's DT thing ✌😂

And what's this,... 😂 @cryptoadditchie, how did your account get involve in this? I might not know how to prove him not being an alt of Little Mouse but I think I'll be on his side by this time. Nothing shady,... for I have just had a lot of transaction with this guys, crwth, bl4nkcode, inthelongrun, cryptoadditchie, akira, and others. Can't explain how but I do know the owners of these accounts ✌😂
Personally I somehow know this person IRL back on Nov.? Does Raptarx and Little Mouse one of our cute citizen?

But please continue your investigation 😂 until you all get satisfied.

Note: I'm also one of the shitty posters here back then so I do understand what he does from the history of the account.

Also am not getting in your way here, just can't keep quiet about it. @cryptoadditchie I suggest to calm down, nothing will happen, just let them do their work on busting accounts.

Quote from: Lucius on March 01, 2020, 07:35:02 AM

"it is not allowed to participate with more than one account in signature campaigns"?

Agreed.
1 user should just be in 1 campaign. And alts should not participate in any campaign.

Again:
Good Work ChuckBuck, just continue what you think you should be doing. Users that has been accused will just have to defend nothing more.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on March 01, 2020, 06:55:32 AM

Please let me know the good reason for your account suspension at this time

You need to prove something here and LOL it's suspended: D

It is suspended probably because of ICO spam, that picture I posted is his twitter status. I doubt someone went to his twitter to copy/paste this, so if this happened it was taken somewhere from that thread and I just don't see it. Another question is - why would anyone who has his twitter and is reporting his own statuses use status of someone else? Makes no sense.

I also searched this forum for that twitter link, but it didn't exist, meaning it was copied from my account on twitter and not on this forum. Then, the image from your post shows that cryptoaddictchie is promoting Muskcoin, so, did he ever participate in Muskcoin bounty campaign? (Maybe I'll take a moment to find out Wink

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Quote from: marlboroza on March 01, 2020, 11:16:59 AM

I usually send neutral in case of alt accounts who didn't violate rules of campaign, so this is very likely what I will do here (and drop other connections for now).

I trust your decision, about other connections, we will have results in the future and on a different topic (if available). I will lock this topic soon Cheesy