Little Mouse and RapTarX - What is this connection? - page 6.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 28, 2020, 05:24:34 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 28, 2020, 04:13:00 AM

The entire point of having an alt in most cases is to segregate the identities and provide anonymity. Trying to hide the fact that it is an alt alone is not evidence of any illicit activity.

You mean that I am allowed to use a second account to use as another official member, I can use two accounts to participate in different signature campaigns to earn decent money Cheesy

This sounds great! And when I opened a campaign management service, I could open with both accounts to increase my chances of competing with others without anyone knowing Cheesy

Go ahead!
I was just kidding

Is that what happened though? So far all I see is evidence the accounts might be linked, not proof they are in contractual violation with any campaign manager. As you can see I already addressed this early in this thread:

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 27, 2020, 07:10:23 AM

I would say this constitutes pretty clear evidence of this being an alt account. I don't think any flags or ratings are appropriate at this stage. I think it would be appropriate to inform the managers of any campaigns he is involved in. If he is violating the terms of those campaigns, then a rating or a flag may be appropriate. I would like to hear the manager(s) comments on the matter.

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Quote from: RapTarX on February 28, 2020, 01:22:39 PM

I knew about this that once Little Mouse had wrongly quoted me. He never bothered to explain in that thread as well.

Damn, it sounds like I'm giving a false proof Sad

Yeah, he didn't just quote wrongly, he even thought he was you, so funny Cheesy

Maybe one fine day, he woke up, thought that he was RapTarX and he was in the Roobet campaign as a Full member, then he applied to the Sr member position Grin

We have a joke here for entertainment Wink

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Until now I had no idea what was going on here. I have posted on Chipmixer Ann thread earlier and saw the neg feedback on my profile. Before that, I had no idea about.
I don't know who is Little Mouse. I have only one alt here; RapTarXalt, hence, the tag on my profile is a wrong one and with due respect, I am humbly requesting Lauda to check and withdraw the tag.

Quote from: Lauda on February 28, 2020, 02:52:09 AM

Please stop the apology culture, where no remorse is shown for wrongdoing.

I guess there's no point of expecting remorse from me since I'm not Little Mouse nor I had idea about this thread until now. I knew about this that once Little Mouse had wrongly quoted me. He never bothered to explain in that thread as well. If I can remember correctly, we (with little mouse) had some conversation in cricket thread. Other than this, I can't remember we had ever conversation even.
After reading this thread, I guess Little Mouse must have explanation which he didn't yet. None but Little Mouse can say what's wrong with him.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 28, 2020, 07:20:34 AM

Don't get me wrong on this. If you realize, I am not against your post or findings. In fact you did a great job. What i was responding to was @promoted9009's attempt to push DT members to neg the account without even providing any valid proofs of violations by the alts

Thank you. I was just curious to find the connection only. I do not like hiding and shadowing.

Excuse me,
Who are you? I do not see any of your links to my topic Huh

You are speaking as if you were someone who were here Huh

(EDIT after he delete his post)
@Side chain Who are you and why did you delete your post Huh

Someone is here and confused with their main account LOL Grin

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 28, 2020, 07:20:34 AM

What i was responding to was @promoted9009's attempt to push DT members to neg the account without even providing any valid proofs of violations by the alts

he's quite impatient in situations like this, though he says he is nobody LOL
Edit a bit here: @promoted9009 was the one who provided the proof for my topic, you didn't read my note Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 28, 2020, 03:29:30 AM

Excuse me,
Have you read my title? What I want to know is their connection, not the tagging or anything else Roll Eyes

Just like the way I'm here to ask questions with my main account, I want everything to be clean, free of shadowing or hiding here. Obviously, we know a lot of people publicly about their alt on this forum, it's fine, but this guy is trying to hide it Wink

The more shady you are, the more people will suspect it Wink

Don't get me wrong on this. If you realize, I am not against your post or findings. In fact you did a great job. What i was responding to was @promoted9009's attempt to push DT members to neg the account without even providing any valid proofs of violations by the alts

Check again what he wrote;

Quote from: promoted9009 on February 27, 2020, 11:19:27 AM

All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

I will guess what's going to happen here, Those two will comment here and they are going to say: "I am not his alt account, this is my own account" and magically that will resolve everything!! These reputable account defenders is going to celebrate because they defended a violator!! And this thread is going to die.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 28, 2020, 05:24:34 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 28, 2020, 04:13:00 AM

The entire point of having an alt in most cases is to segregate the identities and provide anonymity. Trying to hide the fact that it is an alt alone is not evidence of any illicit activity.

You mean that I am allowed to use a second account to use as another official member, I can use two accounts to participate in different signature campaigns to earn decent money Cheesy

This sounds great! And when I opened a campaign management service, I could open with both accounts to increase my chances of competing with others without anyone knowing Cheesy

Go ahead!
I was just kidding

It really depends on who is asking. If I had done this, especially about 1-3 years ago they would condemn me for it for all eternity. No hypocrites, just your usual Bitcointalk process.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 28, 2020, 04:13:00 AM

The entire point of having an alt in most cases is to segregate the identities and provide anonymity. Trying to hide the fact that it is an alt alone is not evidence of any illicit activity.

You mean that I am allowed to use a second account to use as another official member, I can use two accounts to participate in different signature campaigns to earn decent money Cheesy

This sounds great! And when I opened a campaign management service, I could open with both accounts to increase my chances of competing with others without anyone knowing Cheesy

Go ahead!
I was just kidding

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 28, 2020, 03:29:30 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 27, 2020, 03:22:07 PM

Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.

Excuse me,
Have you read my title? What I want to know is their connection, not the tagging or anything else Roll Eyes

Just like the way I'm here to ask questions with my main account, I want everything to be clean, free of shadowing or hiding here. Obviously, we know a lot of people publicly about their alt on this forum, it's fine, but this guy is trying to hide it Wink

The more shady you are, the more people will suspect it Wink

The entire point of having an alt in most cases is to segregate the identities and provide anonymity. Trying to hide the fact that it is an alt alone is not evidence of any illicit activity.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 27, 2020, 03:22:07 PM

Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.

Excuse me,
Have you read my title? What I want to know is their connection, not the tagging or anything else Roll Eyes

Just like the way I'm here to ask questions with my main account, I want everything to be clean, free of shadowing or hiding here. Obviously, we know a lot of people publicly about their alt on this forum, it's fine, but this guy is trying to hide it Wink

The more shady you are, the more people will suspect it Wink

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 27, 2020, 03:22:07 PM

Quote from: promoted9009 on February 27, 2020, 11:19:27 AM

All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.

Deception, deceptive behavior - the inherent feature of untrustworthy behavior. Please stop the apology culture, where no remorse is shown for wrongdoing.

Little Mouse I am also considering flagging as he has misrepresented himself to his past clients i.e. defrauded them. Undecided

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on February 27, 2020, 04:54:48 AM

Where is the crime here? Let's say both are owned by one person (however the evedence is too weak). One can have multi accounts.

Besides the existing, many any potential errors here as well, you just have to think. e.g. if one of the accounts was gained by account trading, then both accounts need to be flagged.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on February 27, 2020, 03:22:07 PM

What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged.

I haven't seen any evidence in this thread that the two accounts were used to cheat campaigns/bounties, or were otherwise engaged in shady behavior. OP just had sharp eyes and caught the mistake that was made that gave RapTarX away. I'm pretty sure the two accounts are linked and I bet RapTarX wishes he hadn't been caught, but I don't see any reason for either account to get tagged.

A lot of members have alt accounts, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that as long as they're not using the accounts to cheat. RapTarX is a decent member as far as I know, and I've been trying to help him rank up by meriting his posts--and I don't think there have been any other accusations leveled against him or the other account, so I don't know what the big deal is here.

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Quote from: promoted9009 on February 27, 2020, 11:19:27 AM

All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

Am i missing something here? What untrustworthy behavior have Little Mouse and RapTarX potrayed that you think should get them tagged. Sincerely even if the accounts are alts, it's not a crime to have alts unless you have caught them have engaging in shady activities like cheating in signature campaigns.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2020, 10:23:27 AM

a sloppy job of copy and paste.

Nice reason Wink

Please continue to protect him Wink

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 27, 2020, 10:00:34 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 27, 2020, 09:59:06 AM

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

Excuse me,
Can you tell me how to copy this line?

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I was participating as Full Member in Roobet

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 27, 2020, 10:52:03 AM

Why does it seems that some users are pretty curious on some Reputed Accounts? Errr.

if you're really reputable, nothing happens, but if you work shady and pretend to be a reputable person, someday it will appear here Tongue

Quote from: promoted9009 on February 27, 2020, 11:19:27 AM

skip

You don't need to be angry Wink

Your rudeness will make your words worthless Wink

keep calm with everything here and wait for the trusted people to decide Wink

The protagonist has not appeared here yet and of course the police will not come to arrest them yet

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All of you are afraid to give negative trust to these user's because they are high rank and reputable. What a shame.

I will guess what's going to happen here, Those two will comment here and they are going to say: "I am not his alt account, this is my own account" and magically that will resolve everything!! These reputable account defenders is going to celebrate because they defended a violator!! And this thread is going to die.

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Thankyou ChuckBuck for supporting my allegations about these two, even though I am just a nobody here. A newbie with a red trust

My friend told me about a contest and then I join here, and I got my red trust for simply lying about using a template on a contest here. Even though there's no rules about the template, I just lied and got a red trust.

And here we are, discussing a obvious violation here (merit abuse: sending merits to their alt account) The politics here are fucking crazy! If they see a small mistake for newbie it's easy to give a red trust! BUT!!!!! If there's a violation about about a reputable and high rank account, these shitheads are defending them! why? to have more reputable friends here? Goodluck to you all defending these two.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2020, 10:23:27 AM

But IMO this is just as @TECHSHARE reiterated, a sloppy job of copy and paste.

What are you a fucking deepshit? there's no copy paste there! It's manually type:

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 27, 2020, 10:52:03 AM

Same thing happened to my sister's account...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35607198

And for some reason that seems questionable, they've been banned.

That is copy paste!! It's not related here since the evidence is manually type, Go ahead defend this "reputable accounts that you want to be friend with"

I have nothing to say, if those account didn't get a red tag for obvious violation, these forum is going down because of politics here. You guys really love defending reputable violators. Goodluck!!!!!!

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2020, 09:21:17 AM

It is. But what if Little Mouse just copied the Proof of Authentication post from RaptarX as reference for his submission post, then forgot to remove his username?

Same thing happened to my sister's account...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35607198

And for some reason that seems questionable, they've been banned.

Oh well...
Why does it seems that some users are pretty curious on some Reputed Accounts? Errr.
...maybe I can wait for my name to be called some other time ✌😂 but impossible hahaha.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 27, 2020, 09:56:36 AM

I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence?

Okay ChuckBuck the evidence quite pointing to something but still this is shallow proof. Since you dont want to PM them, it's your prerogative to find more convincing support for your allegations. Good luck bro.

I think its better if those two will come here and defend themselves rather than we are speculating a non stop convo. But IMO this is just as @TECHSHARE reiterated, a sloppy job of copy and paste.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on February 27, 2020, 09:59:06 AM

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

Excuse me,
Can you tell me how to copy this line?

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on February 27, 2020, 08:18:57 AM

I would like to hear some explanations from both users.

Yes, I would also like to hear explanations for their good reasons Wink

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on February 27, 2020, 08:18:57 AM

I will suggest you to PM both of them too (at least RapTarX coz it seems Little Mouse already know about it from yahoo62278) if you have not done yet.

Sorry, but I will not PM for both in this case Cheesy

Little Mouse didn't trust me (He put me on the untrust list), so I thought it was unnecessary for me to report any problems to him. He should come here by himself Wink

And of course, RapTarX too

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 27, 2020, 09:56:36 AM

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2020, 09:21:17 AM

skip

Sure! Nice reason Wink

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 27, 2020, 09:35:45 AM

Definitely a possibility. This is a good example of why objective standards of evidence are a good idea before rating.

I have a question for both of you, have you read the evidence? Let me show you right here Wink

Quote from: RapTarX on November 08, 2019, 06:16:16 PM

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/raptarx-2530429
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Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

What confusion is there if you are a member of the Bitvest campaign and he said that he had been participating as a full member in the Roobet campaign? Maybe he copied RapTarX's post to apply to himself, so what about these lines?

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Re-applying for Senior Member/Full Member
I was participating as Full Member in Roobet.

Is he mistaken even in a campaign that he's not in? Did he forget temporarily the campaign he was in?

Nice reason Wink

Damned! I spend more time writing, morvillz7z Tongue

It is possible it was just a sloppy copy and paste job.

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