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Quote from: NotATether on February 23, 2024, 09:35:53 AM

This thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-7-btc-wb-altcoin-betting-no-kyc-instant-payouts-5267172

The copy of the report I sent to moderators:

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While I am aware that this is classified as an "Old post", apart from the obvious fact that the website is the infamous 1xbit scam, not only has the management abandoned the forum in May 2023, this thread has almost 400 pages worth of posts, with hundreds of these posts coming from after the thread became unmonitored. It is safe to say that this thread has lost its original meaning, and therefore should be locked.

The OP of the 1xbit thread was last online on May 25, 2023.

The last few dozens of pages are literally only about how the casino is a scam, which we all know, and given that the account itself is not even posting any updates about their site, there is no reason to leave this thread open as it is just a noise-generator.

Am still wondering what others are posting on the thread after which they are no more existing on the forum, if they had done the usually expectations to clear themselves off the mess they got themselves into, they would have nonreason for leaving no matter what, but maybe we should still keep an eye on them, sooner anything may still shows up that we see another representative coming to address their issues as they have always been doing in the past.

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This forum is as free as possible, I don't think moderators will ban it because it's getting spammed cause it's an ann thread created by a casino and they haven't requested to lock the topic. They can come and ask, why did you locked my topic and they'll be right.
1xBit thread is partially abused by some people to increase the number of posts but at the same time, there are still many people who become victims of this casino. When someone becomes a victim and is looking for support, bitcointalk.org traditionally appears in their Google search result. It's easy for newcomers to find ANN thread on Google, click on it, register and post their problems there. If we lock it, then they'll be confused about where to post about their problem. I think it's better to report spammers with an explanation for moderators to really remove their comments.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on February 24, 2024, 11:54:36 AM

What are the importance/essence of ANN threads;

It serves as a page for the project in BTT for advertisement purposes
It is where the project owners meet the forum members to answer their questions and provide updates
It also serve as a review thread of the project

If the above two has failed, the 3rd hasn't failed and it's actually working against 1xbit.

Right now, thread is over 350 pages long, there’s enough information on the thread and other topics on the forum as well that shows that 1xbit is a proven scam casino. But the reality is that 1xbit has wide reach due to its promotions and people do not seem to be doing research on the company. I don’t see the added benefit of letting the conversation continue, people will only find ways to digress from the discussion to other things.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on February 24, 2024, 11:54:36 AM

What are the importance/essence of ANN threads;

It serves as a page for the project in BTT for advertisement purposes
It is where the project owners meet the forum members to answer their questions and provide updates
It also serve as a review thread of the project

Casual crypto gamblers do not use Bitcointalk or visit the gambling board unless they are directed here by some bounty. They are on Telegram, Youtube, X and on the websites with 1xbit advertisements. Only bitcointalkers visit the gambling board and the 1xbit thread, and they all know already about 1xbit's reputation.

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I fully support the idea of NotATether about locking 1xBit announcement thread. I guess if a casino is no more part of this forum then why their thread is still unlocked? Their official representative isn't taking any interest in that thread or in this forum then why should we continue making posts on that thread?

All of the posts on that thread are basically repetitions and nothing else, everyone just repeats one way or other way about their scam, it's more like a scam discussion thread rather than a announcement thread now. So, I guess NotATether has a valid point regarding locking of that thread.

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Quote from: NotATether on February 24, 2024, 08:35:32 AM

Exactly. Since there is basically no update about the site except for new scams (which people already open new threads for anyway in Scam Accusations), the original thread has lost its meaning.

Sorry to say;
What are the importance/essence of ANN threads;

It serves as a page for the project in BTT for advertisement purposes
It is where the project owners meet the forum members to answer their questions and provide updates
It also serve as a review thread of the project

If the above two has failed, the 3rd hasn't failed and it's actually working against 1xbit.

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Quote from: un_rank on February 24, 2024, 07:10:48 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on February 24, 2024, 03:45:46 AM

Also, the questionable character doesn't mean they can't still come back for a good purpose and engage the forum better than before.

If they return, they can always request for the thread to be reopened and a mod would grant that.

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Exactly. Since there is basically no update about the site except for new scams (which people already open new threads for anyway in Scam Accusations), the original thread has lost its meaning.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on February 24, 2024, 03:45:46 AM

I quite understand you. Moderators can be locking those threads without meaning but this thread in question is not without meaning, only that the company/user behind the creation is such of a questionable character.

I did not mention a thread being without meaning, what I pointed out was a redundant thread, which means that there is no more relevant information being discussed there and it has turned into a haven for spammers.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on February 24, 2024, 03:45:46 AM

Also, the questionable character doesn't mean they can't still come back for a good purpose and engage the forum better than before.

If they return, they can always request for the thread to be reopened and a mod would grant that.

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Quote from: un_rank on February 23, 2024, 01:33:08 PM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on February 23, 2024, 12:23:49 PM

You have a nice argument but I think the forum doesn't work like that. Countless threads have been created and abandoned by their various OPs in the past and have not been locked till now whether they are good or bad. That's how you should view this too.

It could be because there are so many threads that have become redundant and need to be locked that the mods cannot keep up with them all, rather than it is a norm to allow threads even though the discussion has run out and turned to a spam mega thread.

I have seen the mods lock up threads that do not have any meaningful discussion anymore and if this has been reported, it should be considered the same.

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I quite understand you. Moderators can be locking those threads without meaning but this thread in question is not without meaning, only that the company/user behind the creation is such of a questionable character. We have enough of questionable characters in the forum and are still very active without any issues. Such threads if not replied to by anyone would be as though locked as well which could have served the same purpose, but for some reason, people continue to write in them. I think they should not be disenfranchised.

Also, the questionable character doesn't mean they can't still come back for a good purpose and engage the forum better than before.

The only thing I see is that it could be a means that continues to indirectly build traffic and advertise for the ignoble company which I believe the OP here frowns at and which I share a valid view with him as well. But I still believe that looking away is the best answer here since the OP of that 1xBit thread has not violated the rules of the forum with the thread.

Needless to say, an active thread shouldn't just be closed abruptly.

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1xbit representatives may have stopped being active in the forum, but the Service is still out there, very active. Probably harvesting more people to scam. If 1xbit had completely shutdown, I would also vote for the thread to be locked, but in this case I don't think it's necessary to lock it just yet.
If we are to lock threads just because the OP has been inactive for a year then we have very many threads to lock and some of them are casino threads especially in the gambling board.

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I support locking the main thread only if it's possible based on the admins' decision, there's a possibility that they will hire shills to post and create positive feedback on their main thread, if there's a complaint on 1XBIT we have a scam section for complainants to post their accusations.
A thread about a complaint will look bad for 1XBIT, the more threads about 1XBIT issues the more negative feedback and harmful to its reputation, besides Discussions on 1xbit are all about the bad reputation of 1xbit.
The 1XBIT active thread here is useless.

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 23, 2024, 03:06:39 PM

I would have supported that the thread be locked, but even till now I think there are random newbies who still pop up in the forum that they are scammed by 1xbit. It will be right if we understand that 1xbit has exited this forum but their website is still functional. There are people who search the internet to know if a casino is genuine or not, if the thread is active, I think those people could easily be redirected there to read about the casino.

I will support that the thread be locked if their website is no longer functioning. You will be surprised that if that thread is locked, random 1xbit scam threads will spring up in the reputation board. If there be spam, if there be suspicion, if there be scam, it should be, remain and end in their thread.

I disagree, victims of 1xbit will still create more threads in scam accusation section regardless whether that thread is locked or not. Most people only come to the forum to make a report when they have been scammed, they don’t do their due diligence before betting on a casino. This can be seen when you go through the threads in scam accusation section. Here’s a list by logfiles of all the scam accusation threads of 1xbit casinos, JSYK this list was last updated in 2021:

Quote from: logfiles on June 11, 2021, 10:03:15 PM

01. 1xbit/1xbet scam
02. 1xbit blocked me, a chance to get the deposite back
03. 1XBIT - 59 ETH MISSINGS - ALL BETS CANCELLED - ACCOUNT BLOCKED
04. 1xbet / 1xbit
05. 1xbit blackjack error
06. Scammed by 1xBit over 130BTC , causing my sister her life
07. Was anyone scammed by 1XBiT/1XBET
08. 1XBIT CANCELS LIVE WAGERS
09. 1xbit stealing money
10. 1xbit Scam? Please tell me help me
11. 1xbit stole my winnings almost 1 year ago
12. 1xbit account locked after tried to withdraw about 4 BTC
13. 1xbit closed my account and stole 1.2+ BTC
14. 1xbit scam
15. 1xbit closed my account and took my deposit and all my winnings
16. 1xbit turned my account off after I won a lot on e-sport matches
17. someone can help with 1xbit locked account
18. 1xbit scam!! merge cases
19. 1xbit took my deposit/winnings and closed my account

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I think I have once came across that 1xBit and their scamming people nature, if the reputable users here has confirmed that site to be scamming people and their thread is open here what is the need of leaving them?
Is it too hard for mod to take good care of that thread or what because I can still sense that when that thread is open and they keeps posting there it would still attracts more people to visit the site, and if they finds something very interesting about the site they don't mind creating an account to try those things out. When they are scammed they would still come back to the thread to post that is why we are seeing that thread gaining much activity where people will come lodge their complaint about the site scamming them. So I support NotATether to say the thread should be locked to avoid further activeness.

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I would have supported that the thread be locked, but even till now I think there are random newbies who still pop up in the forum that they are scammed by 1xbit. It will be right if we understand that 1xbit has exited this forum but their website is still functional. There are people who search the internet to know if a casino is genuine or not, if the thread is active, I think those people could easily be redirected there to read about the casino.

I will support that the thread be locked if their website is no longer functioning. You will be surprised that if that thread is locked, random 1xbit scam threads will spring up in the reputation board. If there be spam, if there be suspicion, if there be scam, it should be, remain and end in their thread.

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I agree, the thread should be locked. It has been established that the casino is a scam. There is no need to give them more publicity on the forum. And since they are no longer advertising here, I think it’s time we stop talking about 1xbit and their scam activities. If you search the keyword 1xbit on the forum, you will find a lot of posts about how the casino is fraudulent. I think that’s enough for anyone to draw conclusions on the site.

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Quote from: NotATether on February 23, 2024, 09:35:53 AM

The OP of the 1xbit thread was last online on May 25, 2023.

The last few dozens of pages are literally only about how the casino is a scam, which we all know, and given that the account itself is not even posting any updates about their site, there is no reason to leave this thread open as it is just a noise-generator.

I don't even pay attention to threads like that, let alone reading or engaging in their convo anyways, but I feel the thread should be locked and i support the motion... It's definitely gonna look like we're against them hosting whatever spammy, shit campaign they wish to but I think the forum doesn't even get any better when we've got lots and lots of shit to read through.

secondly, nothing - and I mean nothing has given me the conviction that they'd ever wanna come back; haven't we had enough of their nuisance?? Maybe the time is just right for them to leave permanently?

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on February 23, 2024, 12:23:49 PM

You have a nice argument but I think the forum doesn't work like that. Countless threads have been created and abandoned by their various OPs in the past and have not been locked till now whether they are good or bad. That's how you should view this too.

It could be because there are so many threads that have become redundant and need to be locked that the mods cannot keep up with them all, rather than it is a norm to allow threads even though the discussion has run out and turned to a spam mega thread.

I have seen the mods lock up threads that do not have any meaningful discussion anymore and if this has been reported, it should be considered the same.

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I get your perspective op. Leaving threads open after folks leave can clutter things up. But admins let it happen all the time, They let all kinds of threads stay open before, whether useful or useless. This one ain't special. The only way they'd probably lock this is if the source was spamming the place. Which to some extent it is.

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You have a nice argument but I think the forum doesn't work like that. Countless threads have been created and abandoned by their various OPs in the past and have not been locked till now whether they are good or bad. That's how you should view this too.

This is not peculiar to this forum as we see them in other forums as well, and I think it's nothing. Who knows, the OP could come back later and start whatever he wants, locking it makes no difference.

When the 1xBit campaign was live, no one closed it or stopped anyone from making their decision to join. Users and the forum itself may only warn, so why the closure now even when such may still come back to the forum? As long as the account of the OP is not locked/banned, he still has the right to open another thread in favour of the casino which makes closing this one of no use.

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I what I doubt here is whether, despite the fact that 1XBit is widely talked about in this forum as a scam, and even in the same thread, we are not favoring them from this forum in terms of SEO, by bumping the thread when talking about them. I guess NotATether will know about this. In any case, I would not just lock it, I would trash it but I know that is not forum policy.

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