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January 13, 2016, 03:59:51 PM
prediction of 180 seems like an idealist view on oil. it will never hit over 100 without something happens which really matters
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January 13, 2016, 03:34:57 PM

Brent near 30

And it's getting better.Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and RBS have already predicted prices below the $30 range for this year and now Standardd Chartered goes a bit further and believes a low of $10 is not unlikely!!WOW!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/12094394/Oil-price-could-fall-to-10-a-barrel-warn-investment-bank-bears.html

I never thought it would be reasonable to assume oil would get this low, let alone talk of $10 not being absolutely insane. Thing about it is you have several groups with stakes in oil who all refuse to reduce production, either voluntarily or not. OPEC has divisions within itself with varying factions vying for economic dominance of the region, Russia and Venezuala both need the income for various economic reasons, leveraged US producers need to pump to service debt payments... all of these factions have unique circumstances that prevent them from cutting prices, but the largest one of all: if any group cuts production and prices rise, all other parties that didn't cut production benefit much more from the higher prices than the group that cut production. So we essentially have a staring contest, and everyone is waiting for someone else to blink.
legendary
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January 13, 2016, 01:56:00 PM

Brent near 30

And it's getting better.Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and RBS have already predicted prices below the $30 range for this year and now Standardd Chartered goes a bit further and believes a low of $10 is not unlikely!!WOW!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/12094394/Oil-price-could-fall-to-10-a-barrel-warn-investment-bank-bears.html
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January 13, 2016, 11:51:52 AM

Brent near 30
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January 11, 2016, 02:52:53 AM
There is always a good time to long oil this is one of them
If you don't mind waiting it out that is but the entry point at present is acceptable.
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January 10, 2016, 10:03:11 PM
We are gonna see more oil wars? Let's wait.

I think If Iran and Arabia saudi starts a war theoil  price will multiply x2 in a few days. I hope it will not happen, we dont need more wars.
In long term i think price of oil will decline because new clean power tech.

about oil tading with btcs i am actually using  the broker 1broker  at moment they are trustable but overnight financing is a little expensive

Be careful with 1broker. You're not buying an equity, but a derivative. You don't own any stock, you own a leveraged CFD, which is riskier. It's still not possible to trade actual stocks with bitcoin.
hero member
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January 10, 2016, 05:06:16 PM
Fossil fuels will replace renewable energy soon if these prices continue  Smiley
legendary
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January 10, 2016, 04:16:10 PM
You must be praying for world war 3. Cheesy
Oil prices continues declining, experts expect lower prices. Even the World War 3 comes I don't think we'll see 180 next 10 years. Good luck with your investment.
legendary
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January 10, 2016, 03:54:59 PM
We are gonna see more oil wars? Let's wait.

I think If Iran and Arabia saudi starts a war theoil  price will multiply x2 in a few days. I hope it will not happen, we dont need more wars.
In long term i think price of oil will decline because new clean power tech.

about oil tading with btcs i am actually using  the broker 1broker  at moment they are trustable but overnight financing is a little expensive
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January 10, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
We are gonna see more oil wars? Let's wait.
legendary
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January 10, 2016, 03:26:56 PM
There was much over investment, now there is much over supply, not because demand has necessarily fallen - but because it has not followed projected growth rates. 

That is a very different way to put it.  Grin
Should you say that demand has not followed projected growth rates, or that the projected growth rates were wrong?  Grin
In any case, there is overcapacity now which is driving the price down.

It's not a change in oil consumption that is affecting the price so much, it's the supply. Oil consumption trends don't change very quickly. Comparatively, the supply has changed much more quickly in the last five years.
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January 10, 2016, 02:27:20 PM
any prediction on oil tommorrow?
does it go up at 35? or will continue to go down til 30?
cause ive lost a lot on oil last week and i need to get back my loss.
It will fall whole week.
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January 10, 2016, 12:41:06 PM
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January 10, 2016, 09:17:35 AM
any prediction on oil tommorrow?
does it go up at 35? or will continue to go down til 30?
cause ive lost a lot on oil last week and i need to get back my loss.

I guess this forum is a wrong place to ask things like that. Regarding your losses, nowadays you should avoid naked exposure at all costs...

Things can change drastically in half a jiffy
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January 10, 2016, 09:06:36 AM
any prediction on oil tommorrow?
does it go up at 35? or will continue to go down til 30?
cause ive lost a lot on oil last week and i need to get back my loss.
legendary
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January 10, 2016, 12:26:37 AM
So how do I invest in oil, is it througn a trade on some platform or something
Typically, to invest in oil, you can buy shares in an oil company, buy oil futures, invest in an oil-based mutual fund, and, if you live in the right locations or have the correct infrastructure, you can purchase physical barrels of oil and hold them until they gain even more value.

Most of these options are done through stock trading platforms, so you just have to find a reputable service and use it in order to invest.

These platforms also typically do not accept Bitcoin, and will only accept your local currency, or USD.

I also must say that I am not telling you what to do with your money, its up to you to choose what you want to do.
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January 10, 2016, 12:21:08 AM
So how do I invest in oil, is it througn a trade on some platform or something
legendary
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January 10, 2016, 12:10:11 AM
The next 10 years we will see a big change, i think the price is going to shoot into the sky with the way everything is atm.
I don't think that it will necessarily shoot into the sky, but we'll see a steady increase until there's a fairly high value placed on each barrel. It would probably be  good idea to invest in oil companies soon, or whenever their shares bottom out. It'll most likely increase in the future.
legendary
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January 09, 2016, 11:31:46 PM
There was much over investment, now there is much over supply, not because demand has necessarily fallen - but because it has not followed projected growth rates. 

That is a very different way to put it.  Grin
Should you say that demand has not followed projected growth rates, or that the projected growth rates were wrong?  Grin
In any case, there is overcapacity now which is driving the price down.
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January 09, 2016, 10:25:05 PM
There was much over investment, now there is much over supply, not because demand has necessarily fallen - but because it has not followed projected growth rates.  If it grows by 1 percent a year, compared to 5 percent a year, after 5 years you have a huge gap in barrels per day.

Oil will remain low for quite a while.  people who buy in now are just "catching a falling knife".  Most likely will stagnate for a few years.  we havent seen the real panic yet.
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