Some folks do giveaways and require accounts of a certain age to qualify.
So the account may have some value for this purpose aside from anything else.
I don't support the idea, or the notion of gaming the trust system, but I wish you well.
You must really be suffering to compromise yourself in such ways.
Ethics are more important than money, it is easy to make money if you lose it, but when you lose trust, it is so very hard to regain, and often impossible.
Topic: Looking to sell my forum account for btc. Is there any interest in this? - page 6. (Read 7498 times)
December 28, 2013, 07:31:49 AM
December 27, 2013, 12:39:03 PM
Bump!
I might be able to offer a better way for you to gain trust if you act quickly. Send me a PM if you're interested.
I might be able to offer a better way for you to gain trust if you act quickly. Send me a PM if you're interested.
December 26, 2013, 12:32:10 PM
I don't agree with the policy that the only retribution against anyone here is the "scammer" tag and that's almost impossible to get. Nefario can come back anytime he sees fit too. There is no block on his account. I guess he's just brighter than that kid Zhou Tong. Look at Zhou's trust rating! The problem is, scammers can always come back for round two and fuck a bunch more people.
I don't want to get in a flame war with him but I know of another scammer that is back after a long hiatus and he has no negative trust rating because the system didn't exist way back then. I'm waiting to see him start a large scam up before openly attacking him.
I don't want to get in a flame war with him but I know of another scammer that is back after a long hiatus and he has no negative trust rating because the system didn't exist way back then. I'm waiting to see him start a large scam up before openly attacking him.
It's better they come back using the same name than make a new account. Easier to spot them.
That's true. The "real" old timers can spot them. I had conflicts with him using my "CornedBeefHash" account in 2011. LoupGaroux was all over the guy like stink on shit back then too. But LoupGaroux is gone and so are most of the people he originally fucked. That's ok though, I'm still here waiting for him to get stupid. lol
December 26, 2013, 12:13:49 PM
I don't agree with the policy that the only retribution against anyone here is the "scammer" tag and that's almost impossible to get. Nefario can come back anytime he sees fit too. There is no block on his account. I guess he's just brighter than that kid Zhou Tong. Look at Zhou's trust rating! The problem is, scammers can always come back for round two and fuck a bunch more people.
I don't want to get in a flame war with him but I know of another scammer that is back after a long hiatus and he has no negative trust rating because the system didn't exist way back then. I'm waiting to see him start a large scam up before openly attacking him.
I don't want to get in a flame war with him but I know of another scammer that is back after a long hiatus and he has no negative trust rating because the system didn't exist way back then. I'm waiting to see him start a large scam up before openly attacking him.
It's better they come back using the same name than make a new account. Easier to spot them.
December 26, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
It won't be common knowledge to all, only those in the know.
Maybe a scam or potential scam perpetrated by a respected member is what is needed to show how dangerous selling accounts is. And what's to stop a member scamming with their account then claiming innocence because they claimed they sold it?
We’re meant to be able to trust respected members who have built up feedback through trades etc, but to me, this trust is kind of worthless when people can just claim they've sold their account. Even involving a third party escrow service in deals now seems like just one other person involved that could scam you.
You want to know a few very trusted and well established hero members that have scammed in this community?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pirateat40-35827
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nefario-3046
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/matthew-n-wright-24749
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bruce-wagner-2033
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zhoutong-38455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shakaru-16160
One of these scammers was a moderator for a long time, one was a worldwide spokesman for Bitcoin and another one was on the default trust list and had control over forum funds. I was caught by a couple of these scammers because I "trusted" their reputation in the community. Selling or buying an account is meaningless because you never really know the character of the person you're dealing with. The ONLY rule of thumb you can follow and be safe is "trust no one".
What? Zhoutongs profile is still being used. Last login is today
I don't agree with the policy that the only retribution against anyone here is the "scammer" tag and that's almost impossible to get. Nefario can come back anytime he sees fit too. There is no block on his account. I guess he's just brighter than that kid Zhou Tong. Look at Zhou's trust rating! The problem is, scammers can always come back for round two and fuck a bunch more people.
I don't want to get in a flame war with him but I know of another scammer that is back after a long hiatus and he has no negative trust rating because the system didn't exist way back then. I'm waiting to see him start a large scam up before openly attacking him.
December 26, 2013, 12:00:34 PM
What price would you be happy to sell for?
I don't really think accounts would be that valuable unless they had some trusted positive feedback.
I don't really think accounts would be that valuable unless they had some trusted positive feedback.
That's the joke with the feedback system. Positive feedback can be earned rather quickly with small transactions. What makes it valuable is the "activity system" because it relies on "time" as a component. You can do some small trades and buy the "activity" to increase the perception of trust.
BTW: I have already had offers from low activity absolutely fucking horrible scammers with really bad trust ratings. So far I have refused to sell.
December 26, 2013, 07:05:22 AM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
It won't be common knowledge to all, only those in the know.
Maybe a scam or potential scam perpetrated by a respected member is what is needed to show how dangerous selling accounts is. And what's to stop a member scamming with their account then claiming innocence because they claimed they sold it?
We’re meant to be able to trust respected members who have built up feedback through trades etc, but to me, this trust is kind of worthless when people can just claim they've sold their account. Even involving a third party escrow service in deals now seems like just one other person involved that could scam you.
You want to know a few very trusted and well established hero members that have scammed in this community?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pirateat40-35827
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nefario-3046
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/matthew-n-wright-24749
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bruce-wagner-2033
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zhoutong-38455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shakaru-16160
One of these scammers was a moderator for a long time, one was a worldwide spokesman for Bitcoin and another one was on the default trust list and had control over forum funds. I was caught by a couple of these scammers because I "trusted" their reputation in the community. Selling or buying an account is meaningless because you never really know the character of the person you're dealing with. The ONLY rule of thumb you can follow and be safe is "trust no one".
What? Zhoutongs profile is still being used. Last login is today
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December 26, 2013, 07:01:41 AM
What price would you be happy to sell for?
I don't really think accounts would be that valuable unless they had some trusted positive feedback.
I don't really think accounts would be that valuable unless they had some trusted positive feedback.
December 25, 2013, 09:09:50 PM
December 25, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
It won't be common knowledge to all, only those in the know.
Maybe a scam or potential scam perpetrated by a respected member is what is needed to show how dangerous selling accounts is. And what's to stop a member scamming with their account then claiming innocence because they claimed they sold it?
We’re meant to be able to trust respected members who have built up feedback through trades etc, but to me, this trust is kind of worthless when people can just claim they've sold their account. Even involving a third party escrow service in deals now seems like just one other person involved that could scam you.
You want to know a few very trusted and well established hero members that have scammed in this community?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pirateat40-35827
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nefario-3046
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tradefortress-67058
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/matthew-n-wright-24749
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bruce-wagner-2033
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zhoutong-38455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shakaru-16160
One of these scammers was a moderator for a long time, one was a worldwide spokesman for Bitcoin and another one was on the default trust list and had control over forum funds. I was caught by a couple of these scammers because I "trusted" their reputation in the community. Selling or buying an account is meaningless because you never really know the character of the person you're dealing with. The ONLY rule of thumb you can follow and be safe is "trust no one".
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December 25, 2013, 04:49:38 AM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
It won't be common knowledge to all, only those in the know.
Maybe a scam or potential scam perpetrated by a respected member is what is needed to show how dangerous selling accounts is. And what's to stop a member scamming with their account then claiming innocence because they claimed they sold it?
We’re meant to be able to trust respected members who have built up feedback through trades etc, but to me, this trust is kind of worthless when people can just claim they've sold their account. Even involving a third party escrow service in deals now seems like just one other person involved that could scam you.
December 25, 2013, 03:35:28 AM
December 24, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
Fascinating. Your experimenting as much as I am. It may shock you to know that I don't agree with shill accounts. I actually agreed with Matthew's stance on that issue although I believe it cannot really be policed. I think the ASIC manufacturers have way too many of them. I was in the middle of an argument between Josh and Garr about a preorder and watched more shill accounts pop up during the argument than I could actually believe exists. This is an experiment for me. I am more interested in the interest in this action and the exercise than the money. I chose to only accept offers via PM for a reason. PM provides the opportunity to hide the transaction and transfer the account without general knowledge. Is this a plus? Will the potential buyer know that theymos and sirius can view PMs at will? I don't know. You are assuming that there is a price at which I would allow inappropriate action using this account. That may not be true.
December 24, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Obviously any trust built up during the life of one account will not transfer to another person because it would be common knowledge that the account is in different hands. Thank you for the offer! If the offer was serious that means accounts do have value for trade. Regrettably, I will have to decline.
Many people who have joined the forum in the past few months are unaware and learning every day that trading accounts is not disallowed and that it sporadically occurs, so some may easily fall for a scam perpetrated with your account. I wouldn't mind spending 0.01 BTC to prevent that (but not more than that), and maybe as an experiment post for a while with it to see how many people would be aware of the sale of your account.
December 24, 2013, 01:45:04 PM
Law is a matter of geography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive#Implementation_by_the_member_states
Some consider email to be personal data though it is not specifically mentioned in the directive.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2012:0010:FIN:EN:HTML
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive#Implementation_by_the_member_states
Some consider email to be personal data though it is not specifically mentioned in the directive.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2012:0010:FIN:EN:HTML
Thanks for the link.
December 24, 2013, 01:34:27 PM
Law is a matter of geography.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive#Implementation_by_the_member_states
Some consider email to be personal data though it is not specifically mentioned in the directive.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2012:0010:FIN:EN:HTML
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Directive#Implementation_by_the_member_states
Some consider email to be personal data though it is not specifically mentioned in the directive.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2012:0010:FIN:EN:HTML
December 24, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that you can have all my PMs too. Every discussion I've had with everyone from Memory Dealers to MatthewNWright.
There's a reason they are called "private messages" ..... just saying ... the other parties might not be too happy
Yeah, I guess that's true. I shouldn't do it, but do you think it adds any value to the sale? lol
Depends on the content of the messages, lol ....
And that practice is generally frowned upon and often illegal.
Frowned upon - possibly. Illegal - no. This is a personal social experiment for me. You will have to assume that I will do the right thing concerning the PMs.
I didn't say what you was doing was illegal. Selling email addresses and other personal information can be illegal.
Ok, maybe it is somewhere. I'm not that well versed in the law surrounding the concept.
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December 24, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that you can have all my PMs too. Every discussion I've had with everyone from Memory Dealers to MatthewNWright.
There's a reason they are called "private messages" ..... just saying ... the other parties might not be too happy
Yeah, I guess that's true. I shouldn't do it, but do you think it adds any value to the sale? lol
Depends on the content of the messages, lol ....
And that practice is generally frowned upon and often illegal.
Frowned upon - possibly. Illegal - no. This is a personal social experiment for me. You will have to assume that I will do the right thing concerning the PMs.
I didn't say what you was doing was illegal. Selling email addresses and other personal information can be illegal.
December 24, 2013, 01:03:31 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that you can have all my PMs too. Every discussion I've had with everyone from Memory Dealers to MatthewNWright.
There's a reason they are called "private messages" ..... just saying ... the other parties might not be too happy
Yeah, I guess that's true. I shouldn't do it, but do you think it adds any value to the sale? lol
Depends on the content of the messages, lol ....
Sorry but that's a bad idea in my opinion... This "practice" should be denied or avoided... As the "good member" you seem, you're giving a bad example! Peace!
Maybe that's the point I'm attempting to prove. A "good member", whatever that is, might disagree with the selling of accounts. One way to build support for or against a phenomena is to let people see it really happening instead of it being a hypothetical situation.
December 24, 2013, 12:56:34 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that you can have all my PMs too. Every discussion I've had with everyone from Memory Dealers to MatthewNWright.
There's a reason they are called "private messages" ..... just saying ... the other parties might not be too happy
Yeah, I guess that's true. I shouldn't do it, but do you think it adds any value to the sale? lol
Depends on the content of the messages, lol ....
And that practice is generally frowned upon and often illegal.
Frowned upon - possibly. Illegal - no. This is a personal social experiment for me. You will have to assume that I will do the right thing concerning the PMs.
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