Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? - page 2.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 14, 2022, 05:09:09 AM

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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 01, 2022, 07:17:52 AM

It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.

Yolo is something that is common inside casinos. Most of the time, those who are desperate are the ones who practice this thing, thinking that if luck permits them, they will win and recover or win more.

Big difference with OP's hypothetical case. If you do Yolo and a friend change it up, then
the original bet wins. You cannot say what emotions you can have learning that you are
not earning that huge amount of money because of the mistake you didn't commit.

I have seen personalities who put all the money in their pocket in one bet and watch the reactions on thier faces when they lose it. I actually sympathize a bit seeing the regret on thier faces while just watching us play and him on the corner. But you know they are back the next day. Addiction I guess but they are conscious about what they do.

But you know when I see them win after yoloing, I'm actually amazed at how happy this guy with the absence of strategy can make it if he continues to do it. then you learn he bet it all again. It's just that our neighborhood gambling house is full of unimaginable characters.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 13, 2022, 11:50:21 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on December 01, 2022, 07:17:52 AM

It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.

Yolo is something that is common inside casinos. Most of the time, those who are desperate are the ones who practice this thing, thinking that if luck permits them, they will win and recover or win more.

Big difference with OP's hypothetical case. If you do Yolo and a friend change it up, then
the original bet wins. You cannot say what emotions you can have learning that you are
not earning that huge amount of money because of the mistake you didn't commit.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 13, 2022, 01:06:31 PM

I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.

taking responsibility for our own decisions is the best way to go in life
taking the blame before blaiming others, not complaining, so forth and so on.
makes life much better.

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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 01, 2022, 07:17:52 AM

It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 08, 2022, 10:47:45 AM

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Quote from: len01 on December 07, 2022, 03:04:58 PM

but if he really can't give me half back, I'll take it a step further to give up my $350k for friendship. ruining friendships over money while gambling is really bad for me.

Noted, I appreciate you if this case happened in the real world because giving up a loss of $ 350k is very ironic but if the loss is only $ 350 it doesn't matter to me, but holding him responsible for his mistakes does not include destroying friendship, but he must be responsible for what he did and although in the end it may only be necessary that half of the losses have to be paid.

Not sure about this if things really happen in real life, that's a huge amount of money and most of the time friendship or good relationship
can be ruined by this huge amount of money.

Though, if you are really that kind and you are willing to let go the other half just for the sake
of friendship, then so be it. Your take and how you handle if the situation comes up will be defined
from how you will solve the issue.

It's very rare in the real world for someone to misplace $350k in gambling.
but at least it's just speculation that if that were to happen i would never be the bad guy forcing an accidental person to refund the $350k he lost.
and I'm sure if that happened in the real world, a gambler who can have money at a bet of $ 350k is definitely a rich gambler. so even though he lost $ 350k because his friend accidentally lost his money and I'm sure the gambler still has more money in his pants pocket

Quote from: erep on December 08, 2022, 03:14:50 PM

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That's why I don't involve friends in gambling unless I just take some advice.

involving friends in gambling is very disturbing.
I mean when we gamble online and there are our friends beside us, of course we don't focus on gambling and sometimes these friends prank us while gambling by deliberately asking for jokes continuously and causing the wrong bet to be placed. I've experienced this.
therefore now when I gamble online, I choose a room and lock the door so I can enjoy my gambling. instead of losing money when gambling because of being bothered by friends

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Quote from: 348Judah on December 09, 2022, 09:53:17 AM

The mistake we all do at most times is in having a reliability and trust in our friends who are just hanging around us because they needed our company, money or valuables to sustain theirs, this has call for more reasons to study the kinds of company we keep and notbto rely on them once it comes to dealing with money, I've also seen a friend who carted away the bet him and his other friend place together only because he happens to be with the slip, friends shouldn't be trusted when it comes to money.

I have experienced something like that where I trusted him, but he betrayed that trust because he no longer needed me. Money can change the nature of someone who was once trustworthy but eventually left everything just like that. If you want to bet with your friend, always make sure that he is really a friend who will not betray you in any way, even with money. Thus, you don't have to worry if he abuses that trust. But if, in the end, he made a mistake and the mistake happened by accident, we also can't directly blame him but rather help him find his mistake and fix it together.

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The mistake we all do at most times is in having a reliability and trust in our friends who are just hanging around us because they needed our company, money or valuables to sustain theirs, this has call for more reasons to study the kinds of company we keep and notbto rely on them once it comes to dealing with money, I've also seen a friend who carted away the bet him and his other friend place together only because he happens to be with the slip, friends shouldn't be trusted when it comes to money.

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Quote from: Fatunad on December 08, 2022, 04:47:54 PM

Back on topic about on having a friend who do changed up bets whose putting up the risk of that 350k to be done then you
would really be definitely be cursing up that man.

I agree.Who would not have cursed that man,the problem is though that we have seen many times in movies that the guys who do such things ends up badly but from what I have seen in real life it is the exact opposite.I see government officials corrupted up only to sky is the limit and they had done so with my and your taxes,they get cursed by all of us but I see them securing generations to come while me and you are just getting our ridiculous salary compared to their total income.

Unfortunately in life these guys like the one who run away with the money are called smart and not cheaters because people say with just a move he secured his life.I say to people yes but at what expense?At that of another ruined life.
Bottom line life is not fair.

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Quote from: erep on December 08, 2022, 03:14:50 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on December 08, 2022, 10:47:45 AM

Though, if you are really that kind and you are willing to let go the other half just for the sake
of friendship, then so be it. Your take and how you handle if the situation comes up will be defined
from how you will solve the issue.

The final option is to forgive him because he can do nothing but regret his actions, I'm not the type to hold grudges but I'm just judging some of the posts above based on a real life perspective that it's hard for someone to forgive if your friend caused you to lose $350k in gambling. That's why I don't involve friends in gambling unless I just take some advice.

Yeah, because for sure, for others that's already a fortune, $350K is not something that you can easily forget unless you are such
a Billionaire or you really gambled with a friend like him.

Not to justify but like you, it's tough to forget that amount and you will keep dwelling on that
particular loss and always reminds you that one time in your life you lose a huge amount of
money because of your friends' mistake.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on December 08, 2022, 03:48:54 PM

People who are calm with their responses should also see what could have happened with 350k if you were smart with your money. USA banks requires you to provide at least 20% of your capital when buying a house, then rest could be a loan. This character in the movie is American, and that means if 20% is 350k, then you could buy houses worth up to 1.75 million dollars.

Obviously, there is a loan issue where you would have to pay it back, but you could stretch it as long as 30 years these days, but even at 20-25 years that means you are going to get paid rent, and then you will be able to pay the loan back with the rent. Not want to risk it that way? Just get one of the houses as old thorned down, spend some money on it, and then sell it after it's brand new. Pay the loan for a long time out of that profit.

If you do have that business minded like or investors mind like then pretty sure you would really be coming up with these ideas but for those who doesnt have then pretty sure they would really be
buying off things that they do have in mind or simply with their needs and not their wants.Majority doesnt really think off about their long term situations which they are really minding with the
on point or real situation or condition as of this moment.If they do saw that they could bare out on having a rent for the rest of their lives and paying up those loans then they would really be sticking into that.

Back on topic about on having a friend who do changed up bets whose putting up the risk of that 350k to be done then you
would really be definitely be cursing up that man.

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You had used huge money for the bet. My opinion is not highly recommend one. Because risking with huge money will cause two things to you. One it will give you 10 times of the profit from the betting amount. Secondly it will made to big loss for you. It’s leads to spend huge time to recover from that loss. So instead you play some games with less bet and win. This may leads to good profit and fun from the game. To make is survival for the longer period, you can’t win for the longer period by using the gambling for longer period. Losing a money to earn is the only way by the gambling for sure.

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People who are calm with their responses should also see what could have happened with 350k if you were smart with your money. USA banks requires you to provide at least 20% of your capital when buying a house, then rest could be a loan. This character in the movie is American, and that means if 20% is 350k, then you could buy houses worth up to 1.75 million dollars.

Obviously, there is a loan issue where you would have to pay it back, but you could stretch it as long as 30 years these days, but even at 20-25 years that means you are going to get paid rent, and then you will be able to pay the loan back with the rent. Not want to risk it that way? Just get one of the houses as old thorned down, spend some money on it, and then sell it after it's brand new. Pay the loan for a long time out of that profit.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 08, 2022, 03:29:44 PM

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on November 25, 2022, 09:01:07 AM

This topic always made me remember how some people got befallen by some unforseen circumstances and, there are sometimes left with nothing to decide on, no option to follow, no decision to make... sometimes they're not even given an opportunity to make a choice, Just like the happenings from this story.
That would have been an opportunity to change his life , maybe momentarily, maybe forever but, I feel that it was not just meant to be. Secondly, friends are very annoying and jealous atimes... Let's assume that his friend knew he was gonna win big but decided to get it all FUCKED, just as he was convinced in his options, how's that supposed to be termed?

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Well, if these things are possible in gambling, then there might be a lot of breaking rules and banning incidents for sure. Because if we can see it in the real picture, no man is in his right thinking to change the bet that is supposedly not his own. But if it’s really unstoppable, then that friend of him might only be there to oppose his luck and bring him losses instead of profits. Too bad for him, maybe winning that huge is not really intended for him.

Banker shouldnt really allow for any changes specially if the roulette is turning around which if they would really be allowing it then it would really be their error and that certain bettor could really make out that kind of

complaint on what happen because it shouldnt really be moved or changed in the first place.They shouldn't really allow someone on doing so and if this case then it could really be argued upon.
As for that friend who do changed up the bet just for the talks of protecting his friend then it did really have done the other way around.
For someone's friend then we do know on what comes next since its a huge winning we are talking on here.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on November 25, 2022, 09:01:07 AM

This topic always made me remember how some people got befallen by some unforseen circumstances and, there are sometimes left with nothing to decide on, no option to follow, no decision to make... sometimes they're not even given an opportunity to make a choice, Just like the happenings from this story.
That would have been an opportunity to change his life , maybe momentarily, maybe forever but, I feel that it was not just meant to be. Secondly, friends are very annoying and jealous atimes... Let's assume that his friend knew he was gonna win big but decided to get it all FUCKED, just as he was convinced in his options, how's that supposed to be termed?

Sandra 💇

Well, if these things are possible in gambling, then there might be a lot of breaking rules and banning incidents for sure. Because if we can see it in the real picture, no man is in his right thinking to change the bet that is supposedly not his own. But if it’s really unstoppable, then that friend of him might only be there to oppose his luck and bring him losses instead of profits. Too bad for him, maybe winning that huge is not really intended for him.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 08, 2022, 10:47:45 AM

Though, if you are really that kind and you are willing to let go the other half just for the sake
of friendship, then so be it. Your take and how you handle if the situation comes up will be defined
from how you will solve the issue.

The final option is to forgive him because he can do nothing but regret his actions, I'm not the type to hold grudges but I'm just judging some of the posts above based on a real life perspective that it's hard for someone to forgive if your friend caused you to lose $350k in gambling. That's why I don't involve friends in gambling unless I just take some advice.

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Quote from: erep on December 07, 2022, 04:10:18 PM

Quote from: len01 on December 07, 2022, 03:04:58 PM

but if he really can't give me half back, I'll take it a step further to give up my $350k for friendship. ruining friendships over money while gambling is really bad for me.

Noted, I appreciate you if this case happened in the real world because giving up a loss of $ 350k is very ironic but if the loss is only $ 350 it doesn't matter to me, but holding him responsible for his mistakes does not include destroying friendship, but he must be responsible for what he did and although in the end it may only be necessary that half of the losses have to be paid.

Not sure about this if things really happen in real life, that's a huge amount of money and most of the time friendship or good relationship
can be ruined by this huge amount of money.

Though, if you are really that kind and you are willing to let go the other half just for the sake
of friendship, then so be it. Your take and how you handle if the situation comes up will be defined
from how you will solve the issue.

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Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2022, 08:07:59 PM

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Okay just to follow up on this topic after all we are all in this discussion anyway.

Which one would you prefer?

Losing money because unintentionally your friend does something like removing it on the black 15
Or losing a friend because he bet the amount without consulting you?

Losing money is better than losing friends. But it would be a different story if we could not trust our friend and it would be better to lose him than lose money because of his attitude. But if he accidentally made a mistake, we can forgive him because everyone makes mistakes. And hopefully, after we forgive him, he can be better than before and not make mistakes again. Friendships sometimes do often experience cases like that and this makes us have to be wise in reacting to it.

I agree here that friends are more important than money
just adding a small caveat: make sure your friends are really your friends.
similar to love, it's not always the case that a relationship is mutual

That's why we have to find a friend who can be a friend because nowadays we have seen many friends who are only "friends" when we are happy and leave when we are having a hard time. It's not a "friend" who can be used as a friend because a friend will be by our side, supporting us when we are down and feeling happy when we are happy. If we have found it, we must really maintain our friendship with him and if there is a problem, we should discuss it to find a solution. And if he does something wrong by mistake, we should be able to forgive him and still accept him kindly.

yes, we live in weird times where relationships are more and more shallow
takes time and effort to go deeper and what I see is that most are too busy with their lives to take care of their relationships
hopefully this may change in the future but I don't know.

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Quote from: len01 on December 07, 2022, 08:25:29 PM

Quote from: erep on December 07, 2022, 04:10:18 PM

Quote from: len01 on December 07, 2022, 03:04:58 PM

but if he really can't give me half back, I'll take it a step further to give up my $350k for friendship. ruining friendships over money while gambling is really bad for me.

Noted, I appreciate you if this case happened in the real world because giving up a loss of $ 350k is very ironic but if the loss is only $ 350 it doesn't matter to me, but holding him responsible for his mistakes does not include destroying friendship, but he must be responsible for what he did and although in the end it may only be necessary that half of the losses have to be paid.

yeah right, if it happened in the real world $350k that seems like a lot but to me it doesn't matter. we can't judge a friend just because of an accidental mistake.
indeed it is his responsibility as a friend who has made a mistake but we have a way to forgive rather than forcing to return whole or return half but it will never happen if he really can't return.

and i think, if we can afford to forgive the $350k lost it will be fine it will definitely be rewarded at gambling making a profit of over $350k

I think value of good friendship can be priceless. There are some people that takes care of their friends in their worst experiences in life. I always consider this when I ask help from a friend. In OP's situation it doesn't differ a lot. OP lost a chance to make 350k dollars which is obviously great amount of money anywhere in the world. But I think his friend mainly tried to help him not sabotage... So I think I would mainly laugh at a friend and ask for dinner. Nothing more.

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Quote from: cabron on December 04, 2022, 08:07:59 PM

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Okay just to follow up on this topic after all we are all in this discussion anyway.

Which one would you prefer?

Losing money because unintentionally your friend does something like removing it on the black 15
Or losing a friend because he bet the amount without consulting you?

- In the scenario of the video clip we watched, I would prefer to lose a friend, because for me it is not a true friend to care about my decision, whether it is wrong or right. Because I have a friend, when I say something that I'm doing and I'm going to do it, when he sees that it's wrong from his point of view, he tells me a friend's reminder of the consequences that can be faced.

Apparently, he is not forcing me to do what he reminded me, but he is making me understand the possibilities that I can face. That's what a true friend can say.

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