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Quote from: CryptoProcent on November 13, 2017, 05:08:41 PM

I dont lose my faith in Btc yet.

Yes ... bitcoin have some problem with lot of unconfirmed transaction, SegWit fork, etc, but I think for medium / long terms all will be right.

There has been like a backlog of 100k unconfirmed transactions for a long time already, besides the spike caused by bch group there is no need to worry.

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I dont lose my faith in Btc yet.

Yes ... bitcoin have some problem with lot of unconfirmed transaction, SegWit fork, etc, but I think for medium / long terms all will be right.

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Quote from: krisnt80 on November 13, 2017, 04:59:00 PM

Crypto has becamed a game of sharks, where they can easy manipulate any currencie value, bch has been advertised as the new fork wich would replaced bitcoin, something we know wouldnt happen soo easy, but sure miners and big investos has huge influence into bitcoin, even being decentralized it can be manipulated.

Only so far it seems, they can nudge things up and down but can't get what they want if no-one else does.

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Crypto has becamed a game of sharks, where they can easy manipulate any currencie value, bch has been advertised as the new fork wich would replaced bitcoin, something we know wouldnt happen soo easy, but sure miners and big investos has huge influence into bitcoin, even being decentralized it can be manipulated.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 04:15:30 PM

All BCH has to do is be better. That's it. None of the previous hijacks were any good. This isn't either so this is what's been resorted to.

Clearly, they're trying to use the price to test BTC holders' pain thresholds. The timing of Roger Ver's BTC transfers to Bitfinex lines up perfectly with the price action. Remember the bearwhale on Bitstamp at $300? Roger Ver is trying to play the bearwhale now. How long can that really last? How many coins does this guy have?

Quote from: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 04:15:30 PM

When this fails they're going to have to come each of our houses and torture our pets until we switch.

Pretty much. I think this is the last resort. They are literally dumping their coins as early adopters to prop up the BCH price. And Jihan Wu is in full propaganda mode on Twitter. He even tried to use the "Segwit2x = free coins" narrative to get people to buy his shitcoins during the pump.

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I don't understand what the fuss is all about. Bitcoin has been like this way before but eventually recovered. We must not panic right away because I believe bitcoin price is going to increase again.

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[quote author=freeElectron.

My replay was to the graph that showed how btc has always kept going. Well, then I do the same.. I extrapolate the current graph and say this is how it always will be.
In this case, we will see $100 transaction fee within 3 months.

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You Sir: obviously are not a man of science !

1). I did not "extrapolate" my argument. A well informed decision should be based on historical data.

2). You Sir extrapolated your idea and thought on. a) none linear data. b) small data point

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 04:15:30 PM

Quote from: Anarc Senior on November 13, 2017, 04:12:09 PM

Stop spreading the fear on nonsensical !!

Match and beat his current wages and your wish will be his command.

Why is that so far not one single BCH shill has acknowledged that all of the present woes are directly their doing? It's perfectly clear yet we're supposed to take them seriously as contenders.

All BCH has to do is be better. That's it. None of the previous hijacks were any good. This isn't either so this is what's been resorted to.

When this fails they're going to have to come each of our houses and torture our pets until we switch.

It's actually completely turned the community against them and all involved. So underhanded, manipulative and disgusting.

The rep of BCH is dirt now, even with very, very rich backers they can only pump it a little at a time before it fails, that's how hated it is. Traders aren't even trading it on principle, I never thought I'd see the day when YoBit pumpers will not join in on a P&D but BCH is at least uniting us all against it.

Piece of shit coin pushed by piece of shit borderline criminals who've managed to turn everyone against them other than a few bag holders who probably hate them too if they would admit it.

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Quote from: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 04:15:30 PM

Quote from: Anarc Senior on November 13, 2017, 04:12:09 PM

Stop spreading the fear on nonsensical !!

Match and beat his current wages and your wish will be his command.

Why is that so far not one single BCH shill has acknowledged that all of the present woes are directly their doing? It's perfectly clear yet we're supposed to take them seriously as contenders.

All BCH has to do is be better. That's it. None of the previous hijacks were any good. This isn't either so this is what's been resorted to.

When this fails they're going to have to come each of our houses and torture our pets until we switch.

Weak men fight dirty !!

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Quote from: mhmhmh1111 on November 12, 2017, 05:35:03 PM

if bitcoin cash really takes over bitcoin..then i think this makes the whole cryptoworld feel shady and will turn people away..just seems crazy that bitcoin this bitcoin that and then all of a sudden "bitcoin cash" is prime to be #1? just shows crypto currency is shady as fuck

It really need courage and understanding to succeed in the crypto investment, because I believe that many have loose their money as a result of panic generated as the price of bitcoin dropped over the weekend. Ever since I understood that the price of bitcoin goes up when more investors and also drop when investor pulls out.

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Quote from: Anarc Senior on November 13, 2017, 04:12:09 PM

Why do you compare it with crap, when there are decentralized coins much better than both BTC and fiat banks.
Yes, it might be $10 or $20 bucks today, but do you think it will just stop here?
Could be $100 within a year or two.

No problems.. lets just look the other way and sing cumbabitcoin.

Some made their argument on facts - which you called "crap". You Sir made you point on "could be". "Could be $100 within a year or two."

Stop spreading the fear on nonsensical !!
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Crap is crap. If there is a way to send money for $0.05, it is a crappy deal to pay $20, don't you agree?
It's ridicules to think that I'm going to waste 20 bucks, just to have the "right" brand when I send the money.

My replay was to the graph that showed how btc has always kept going. Well, then I do the same.. I extrapolate the current graph and say this is how it always will be.
In this case, we will see $100 transaction fee within 3 months.

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Quote from: Anarc Senior on November 13, 2017, 04:12:09 PM

Stop spreading the fear on nonsensical !!

Match and beat his current wages and your wish will be his command.

Why is that so far not one single BCH shill has acknowledged that all of the present woes are directly their doing? It's perfectly clear yet we're supposed to take them seriously as contenders.

All BCH has to do is be better. That's it. None of the previous hijacks were any good. This isn't either so this is what's been resorted to.

When this fails they're going to have to come each of our houses and torture our pets until we switch.

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Why do you compare it with crap, when there are decentralized coins much better than both BTC and fiat banks.
Yes, it might be $10 or $20 bucks today, but do you think it will just stop here?
Could be $100 within a year or two.

No problems.. lets just look the other way and sing cumbabitcoin.

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Some made their argument on facts - which you called "crap". You Sir made you point on "could be". "Could be $100 within a year or two."

Stop spreading the fear on nonsensical !!

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Quote from: Anarc Senior on November 13, 2017, 04:02:17 PM

Quote from: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 03:49:36 PM

Quote from: sylance on November 13, 2017, 03:17:35 PM

Can we put this into perspective:

Weak.

Lets look at this one instead.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html

Enough of the " Transaction fee" already:

Do you realize that on the fiat currency could charge up to 10% for transactions fee ? Up to 5 days to make the money transaction ? And the government takes note of how much money you have transferred ? And they have your name and your address in case they would like to come to see you to tell you that they decide to keep your money ?

Urrrrg ! Why do we waste our time with this nonsense !!

Why do you compare it with crap, when there are decentralized coins much better than both BTC and fiat banks.
Yes, it might be $10 or $20 bucks today, but do you think it will just stop here?
Could be $100 within a year or two.

No problems.. lets just look the other way and sing cumbabitcoin.

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Quote from: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 03:49:36 PM

Quote from: sylance on November 13, 2017, 03:17:35 PM

Can we put this into perspective:

Weak.

Lets look at this one instead.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html

Enough of the " Transaction fee" already:

Do you realize that on the fiat currency could charge up to 10% for transactions fee ? Up to 5 days to make the money transaction ? And the government takes note of how much money you have transferred ? And they have your name and your address in case they would like to come - to see you - to tell you that they decide to keep your money ?

Urrrrg ! Why do we waste our time with this nonsense !!

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Let's narrow down the OP worrisome:

Which part of of the plot below do you worry of ?

Everyone got $20 extra for every transaction fee, so lets ignore that problem.
Look over here.. I have this historical graph showing BTC price going up up up.

/sarcasm

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Quote from: sylance on November 13, 2017, 03:17:35 PM

Can we put this into perspective:

Weak.

Lets look at this one instead.

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html

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Quote from: felicita on November 13, 2017, 03:24:25 PM

Quote from: Cutekittens21 on November 13, 2017, 02:40:26 PM

Why is there always such panic? We are just having another correction caused by the cancellation of the SegWit2x hardfork. It is just a matter of time before everything gets back to normal. We have 180k unconfirmed transactions. Don't you think it is suspicious that it happens right after some group claimed that they have 30% of the hashrate? Bitcoin hashrate dropped almost by 50%.

If you can't handle these ups and downs, I'd seriously sell right now.

this is exaclty true !
lets trust in Bitcoin iam still holding my coins even when its not much coins Cheesy

and now there is another coin witch is >1000$ !
and bitcoin today 8% profit and bitcoincash makes -3%

regards

I completely agree. If you're this emotionally unstable being invested in cryptocurrency probably isn't for you. I'm not implying that that's a bad thing but I really feel like we've just hit the top of the iceberg. Bitcoin still has an extremely long and difficult road ahead and will become stronger after overcoming every single obstacle. Right now we are seeing people who are already in the space (Ver, Wu etc.) attacking bitcoin. What do you think will happen when governments start joining the party? I think you can already picture something and it's not going to be a pretty sight.

So I think you have 2 solid options, either you take profits: $6500 is still not a bad price for bitcoin (it's not good either) or you lock away your bitcoin and try to forget about it an come back in a couple of years. This will prevent you of panicking and selling your bitcoin or buying some kind of 'bitcoin-killer' like bitcoincash.

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Quote from: felicita on November 13, 2017, 03:24:25 PM

Quote from: Cutekittens21 on November 13, 2017, 02:40:26 PM

Why is there always such panic? We are just having another correction caused by the cancellation of the SegWit2x hardfork. It is just a matter of time before everything gets back to normal. We have 180k unconfirmed transactions. Don't you think it is suspicious that it happens right after some group claimed that they have 30% of the hashrate? Bitcoin hashrate dropped almost by 50%.

If you can't handle these ups and downs, I'd seriously sell right now.

this is exaclty true !
lets trust in Bitcoin iam still holding my coins even when its not much coins Cheesy

and now there is another coin witch is >1000$ !
and bitcoin today 8% profit and bitcoincash makes -3%

regards

If you did able to make shortings on those times on bitcoin and you have some investments on bitcoin cash then you are really making money as of now. Panic? Its normal and you cant really avoid that in the community which there are really some people who do easily being affected by emotion when they are already seeing decreasing prices they do easily panic and made bad decisions.

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