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I have lost some faith in bitcoin, but it does not mean that i will move all my funds to bitcoin cash or just to another crypto because of this whole panic in the forum.
I have made a profit of about 0.50 because of bitcoin cash. I was trading with btc/bch in the last night, and it was very profitable because i could make some profit when it was $1300 and suddenly it touched $1900, so i was lucky i guess.
But i am not going to move all my funds in there, i still trust in bitcoin and i know that it has a lot of potential to keep going up.
I have made a profit of about 0.50 because of bitcoin cash. I was trading with btc/bch in the last night, and it was very profitable because i could make some profit when it was $1300 and suddenly it touched $1900, so i was lucky i guess.
But i am not going to move all my funds in there, i still trust in bitcoin and i know that it has a lot of potential to keep going up.
I think that is a normal reaction seeing how the price of bitcoin is playing in the market now. However, we should also agree with the fact that this happened before, and from history and past trends, we can say that bitcoin was able to come back up. In that sense, what's happening now, however unfortunate, could be said as part of the current market trend. Therefore, I am hopeful that bitcoin can regain its former price point or higher.
In appears that you're starting to falter, and it seems that your principle fluctuates with the price. I understand that you maybe coming from an economic standpoint. However, price movements should be the least of our basis of its survival when your philosophically inclined, in fact this should be a buying opportunity if you truly believe to its potential.
I wonder if those that have lost faith, and those that ignore the problems for that matter, realise that the supposedly decentralised Bitcoin is been highly dependant on mining power from China? Yeah, there are lot of individual miners, but there are few pools and many miners can be persuaded to join a cause.
So, what are you going to do, bail out, ignore it, or start looking at running nodes and mining even at a small loss? Re-distribute mining power. Also address the problems with slow transactions on Bitcoin which are forecast and behind the Bitcoin forks, rather than arguing over it, denying theres a problem, accept and deal with it. Because while this Bitcoin Cash pump may not have been successful (though not necessarily over) it has highlighted problems and weaknesses. Next time it might work.
So, what are you going to do, bail out, ignore it, or start looking at running nodes and mining even at a small loss? Re-distribute mining power. Also address the problems with slow transactions on Bitcoin which are forecast and behind the Bitcoin forks, rather than arguing over it, denying theres a problem, accept and deal with it. Because while this Bitcoin Cash pump may not have been successful (though not necessarily over) it has highlighted problems and weaknesses. Next time it might work.
Who else is losing faith in BTC? I use to believe that BTC would change the world. What I just witnessed last night with BCH attempting to take over just shook my entire belief in BTC and crypto currency in general. It feels pretty obvious to me that BTC is the best thing ever and BCH is built upon greed, but I'm not entirely confident that either will win in the end anymore.
The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.
I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.
Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.
Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.
The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine
Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.
If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.
I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.
The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.
I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.
Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.
Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.
The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine
Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.
If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.
I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.
I still believed in bitcoin, yes bitcoin cash suddenly go up but then again, as you recall the same way that bitcoin gone before, many people still believed in BTC so i think sooner or later everything will be ok. As of the moment, BCH is not -40+% that goes to show that bitcoin is still the dominant currency around.
lol, I know and really understand what you feel at that time. When you put a lot of hope into something and it not come to a good result. But, this is just a temporary situation, every thing would come back to what they have to be. Btw, if you have faith in Bitcoin at the beginning, why don't you try to find out the reason that make BCH has took over BTC in trade volume? Something that I've learned from bitcointalk forum, they said that vast Chinese miners were intent to harm BTC system with fake transaction. And the problem maybe solved after BCH segwit. Just ready for a rise of the King again. Cheer!
The way I understand is like this. Developing Bcash must've cost a fortune, so now is the time to get it all back by selling to the next sucker. Jump of $500 in a couple of dollars. Only a fool will not understand.
Yes in past few days there are many talks about bitcoin market going down to lower level and many who are worried and panic converting their BTC to some other altcoins or withdrawing their money from it but they need to know that these are just temperorary disturbances and after all this is over BTC price will become normal and rise with pump so don't loose your faith in it.Although BCH market cap is growing but still BTC is king so relax
The only reason more people will lose more faith in bitcoin is these high fees. I think its said that Core is not taking this as a serious issue. The way I see it is that what will cause the downfall of Bitcoin. I hope the bitcoin community will wake up to this reality. If we ever want mass adoption we have to be able to compete with the visas and PayPal
The most regret of the investors and bitcoin users is that when see the the price they get discouraged.
Their basis is the price of bitcoin without knowing that bitcoin price increase in the future.
This must be a lesson for us investors and bitcoin user just continue supporting because bitcoin will never fail.
I hope that this bitcoin will get well.
Their basis is the price of bitcoin without knowing that bitcoin price increase in the future.
This must be a lesson for us investors and bitcoin user just continue supporting because bitcoin will never fail.
I hope that this bitcoin will get well.
Yes, it is something that make me think a bit too... but yet BTC is much higher than it was 3 months before. I think we should judge in a longer time span.
Leason learned that bitcoin cash dramatically price value increase is just another pump and dump strategy that failed. For sure people that behind this strategy will going to lose a huge investments because instead of attracting people to sell their bitcoin and buy bitcoin cash due to sudden price increase, the result is opposite that instead BHC holders immediately sell their coins while price is at high which in result bitcoin cash back to its 3rd place right now and continue falling.
Who else is losing faith in BTC? I use to believe that BTC would change the world. What I just witnessed last night with BCH attempting to take over just shook my entire belief in BTC and crypto currency in general. It feels pretty obvious to me that BTC is the best thing ever and BCH is built upon greed, but I'm not entirely confident that either will win in the end anymore.
The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.
I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.
Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.
Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.
The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine
Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.
If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.
I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.
I dont lose hope faith in btc because i know that bitcoin will go rise again just not now but soon i know that this is the part of bitcoin because bitcoin is volatile so i keep holding my bitcoin i have a trust in bitcoin. The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.
I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.
Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.
Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.
The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine
Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.
If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.
I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.
It's a matter of fact that BCH is taking over, but that doesn't mean it will. Don't lose hope on what you've read instead just focus on what you've started, it's only just the beginning
I am loosing faith in BTC because its old and doesn't do the job anymore...
Yesterday, I wanted to transfer a remaining balance I had in coinbase (around 300$), that transaction cost me more than 8$ and it took 10 hours to confirm.
When my friends ask me why should I use bitcoin, my best arguments use to be its fast and its cheap...
If you want bitcoin to be mainstream, it has to be better than that, I think a wire transfer from my bank would have been faster and cheaper.
I thought bitcoin community were in advance on their time, that they embrace future technology so why does everyone wants to stick with a coin that do not live up to its promises anymore?
Yesterday, I wanted to transfer a remaining balance I had in coinbase (around 300$), that transaction cost me more than 8$ and it took 10 hours to confirm.
When my friends ask me why should I use bitcoin, my best arguments use to be its fast and its cheap...
If you want bitcoin to be mainstream, it has to be better than that, I think a wire transfer from my bank would have been faster and cheaper.
I thought bitcoin community were in advance on their time, that they embrace future technology so why does everyone wants to stick with a coin that do not live up to its promises anymore?
We should send a message to the bloody fools that made us reconsider the crypto future.
we shoul hack them and take them out.
we shoul hack them and take them out.
Why are they fools? Maybe it is the mass with small pockets holding on to ideals of some utopian cryto future acting as cheer leaders who are the fools. Seems the real players, who control this game, should be thanked for pointing out why bitcoin can never be used in the real world for day to day purchases. The mask of decentralization has been removed.
fools are guys that fuck up there own market and inflate there own currancy.
now we are losing on both sides BTC and BCH is this what they wanted?
i dont think so...so they are greedy fools. time to take them out for there treason.
Will never have loss faith in btc.dont you remember what had btc go through?for how long he struggled and survive?and now just because he drops your losing faith?can i ask you something?how much have you earned ij btc?for you th have loss faith in such a small margin of time
The loss of faith is not because Bitcoin dropped from $7,000 to $6,000 ... many people could care less if it's worth $7k, $6k, $5k or less.
The loss of faith in BTC is coming from this "Unconfirmed Transactions" issue, paying a fee of $15 to send a transaction over - this is not a smooth ride anymore.
Bitcoin is flawed, there would be an alternative, sooner or later.
I see a lot of people saying this will correct and the currency will return to 'normal'
What is the 'normal' it will return to? Will transaction wait times go back to one block? Will fees shrink or ever go back to being able to transact feeless?
Will this currency ever be used like a currency again? Will I ever be able to make microtransactions? Will I ever be able to send transactions with many small inputs? Will I ever be able to buy a cup of coffee with bitcoin? What's the point of this "currency" any more?
People are seriously comparing btc transactions to Western Union now saying that $10 fees aren't that bad. This is not the bitcoin world I came to circa 2012.
What is the 'normal' it will return to? Will transaction wait times go back to one block? Will fees shrink or ever go back to being able to transact feeless?
Will this currency ever be used like a currency again? Will I ever be able to make microtransactions? Will I ever be able to send transactions with many small inputs? Will I ever be able to buy a cup of coffee with bitcoin? What's the point of this "currency" any more?
People are seriously comparing btc transactions to Western Union now saying that $10 fees aren't that bad. This is not the bitcoin world I came to circa 2012.
Well said.
Without owner it has secured a good potential in the market. Don't panic for short term price, but many government are planning to make the coin legalize for payments.
should not think so. btc is still an irreplaceable coin. simply because it has no owner. If you lose faith in bitcoin then you should not invest in other coin
To the OP, please do not blame this on bitcoin; the protocol is a grand thing, it is the politics that are damning us right now. this is what happens when you allow a point of centralization to develop in a thing that was plainly meant to be completely decentralized. the BCH pump (and the subsequent pumps that will come, because this is far from over) gained so much traction because they cant fake consensus with the amount of network they control. people follow the mining; they (followers of Jihan) can shift support to whatever chain they want; so whatever coin they want to pump, not a problem 
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