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November 12, 2017, 10:18:00 PM
#94
Who else is losing faith in BTC? I use to believe that BTC would change the world. What I just witnessed last night with BCH attempting to take over just shook my entire belief in BTC and crypto currency in general. It feels pretty obvious to me that BTC is the best thing ever and BCH is built upon greed, but I'm not entirely confident that either will win in the end anymore.

The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.

I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.

Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.


Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.

The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine

Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.

If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.

I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.



Litecoin is very good . BTC are having more  and more uncofirmed transactions daily. lolz
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November 12, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
#93
I have read some articles about bitcoin and bch they will say that the miners will support bch and will give up bitcoin after bitcoin stops the segwit2x however if you are a believer in bitcoin i advise you to stand Be sure to invest in bitcoin or bitcoincash or eth. Because the market is currently very turbulent
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November 12, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
#92
We should send a message to the bloody fools that made us reconsider the crypto future.

we shoul hack them and take them out.

Why are they fools?  Maybe it is the mass with small pockets holding on to ideals of some utopian cryto future acting as cheer leaders who are the fools. Seems the real players, who control this game, should be thanked for pointing out why bitcoin can never be used in the real world for day to day purchases. The mask of decentralization has been removed.
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November 12, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
#91
i am sure that people in out there still believe with bitcoin and if the price is now down, i think they just hold their bitcoin and waiting the next moment when the price is back to increase. we have seen this condition before and i think people is learned from the past and they only waiting and buy bitcoin again. but yes the price make some of people getting panic especially for people which is new in bitcoin world and they are less information about bitcoin. i still believe in bitcoin that the price will be increase soon and i think the bitcoin cash drama yesterday is because people want to make profit from bitcoin cash and it makes the price is increase too high but now the price is down too far and it seems to be back to the price before.
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November 12, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
#90
don't loss faith in bitcoin, bitcoin cash will huge dump someday, I trust bitcoin it will be pump again, just buy more bitcoin now so you can get your profit in december.
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November 12, 2017, 09:50:02 PM
#89
Will never have loss faith in btc.dont you remember what had btc go through?for how long he struggled and survive?and now just because he drops your losing faith?can i ask you something?how much have you earned ij btc?for you th have loss faith in such a small margin of time
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November 12, 2017, 09:46:17 PM
#88
This is just a temporary due to segwit2x problems all btc buyers is hoping for the segwit2x but unfortunately it cancelled that's why some btc holders transfer their btc to fiat and that affects the btc value. all in all this is just a good news that is dropping. so we can buy a new dip for btc now Smiley
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November 12, 2017, 09:36:06 PM
#87
We should send a message to the bloody fools that made us reconsider the crypto future.

we shoul hack them and take them out.
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November 12, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
#86
Who else is losing faith in BTC? I use to believe that BTC would change the world. What I just witnessed last night with BCH attempting to take over just shook my entire belief in BTC and crypto currency in general. It feels pretty obvious to me that BTC is the best thing ever and BCH is built upon greed, but I'm not entirely confident that either will win in the end anymore.

The huge boost in BCH overnight makes me wonder if anything in the crypto world is legit. Seems like everything is based upon greed. All the figure heads that are suppose to support BTC started being like "oh yeah, BCH is the new bitcoin now guys". John Mccafee (yup, the guy who said he'd eat his own dick on TV if BTC doesn't make it to $500,000 by 2020) is all like BCH is the solution blah blah blah. I figured okay, people are getting paid off to say stuff like this, he's a miner after all so he's looking for money. But then I started reading the core developer's tweets. They either don't talk about BCH, but even some of them were talking about BCH taking over.

I get that pump and dumps are going to happen, but when developers are switching to BCH this means either two things. One, BCH will become the new BTC. Two, developers are greedy and care about making money than BTC.

Another part of me wonders whether this was a pump and dump or not. Perhaps BCH really is better now.


Decentralization, limited supply, medium of exchange, store of value. These words are thrown around a lot when describing BTC, but it just seems to me that people really care only about money. When the developers are like this, that is means for worry. This means people will make changes to BTC strictly for hype to make money, even if it actually hurts the security of the coin.

The only figure head in the crypto world that I feel is trustworthy is the creator of LTC. My reasons are this:
1) He hasn't pumped the crap out of Litecoin with false propaganda
2) He was awkward on TV when talking about Litecoin
3) Intuitively seems more genuine

Last night has left me depressed all day today. I'm very bothered by this. I feel like if I go with BCH I lose. If I go with BTC I lose. I feel like BTC is the good guy and BCH is the evil guy. However, BCH might win in the end. I see possible +EV with BCH though. So last night I caved guys. I caved. I feel sad but I did. I bought BCH which I thought I would never do (I didn't sell most of my BTC, It is like a hedge I suppose). Just seems like the +EV thing to do. Couldn't figure out if it was a pump/dump or a takeover so went with my limited knowledge.

If BCH makes it to $3,000ish I will dump some of my BCH for BTC again.

I'm distraught guys and not in a good way either. I kind of feel like I might be getting played, but I might be making the right decision.

This is not good people make a dorty play here because they only know and they predict what eill happen in the value of btc and bch this is not good but for me btc is the best i know that it will resolve by it self i know that btc can do this .
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November 12, 2017, 09:20:05 PM
#85
it is good though because after the dump it will go higher price in just 2 weeks
it is natural phenomena in currencies specially bitcoin and virtual money ..
dont panic or loose hope speculation will gonna happen sooner hhahahah HOPING
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November 12, 2017, 09:00:44 PM
#84
this kind of situations show that crypto is not ready yet. So many thinks to be done. We just have to wait... but for now... I kinda lost hope...
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November 12, 2017, 08:56:15 PM
#83
I also think so, I am disappointed with the human being, the BTC was the chance to feel ownership of something important not controlled by people and companies with power. But the episode that occurred these days made me rethink, not by the fall of the price of the currency but by the vulnerability in which the network is. All the transactions are delayed because it frightens me to think that whoever controls Bitcoin is no longer the community, me, you or anyone with a PC and video card, but big miners with power to send on the net. We lost 45% of Hash, in bitcoin what was slow now got worse ... 30% only in the hand of a small group of billionaires. Where the consensus went, it's not worth it .... It all seems a well-designed plan since the New York agreement, to carry out this fork idea that we know now was not the right time, while the miners held millions in Bitcoin Cash waiting next to their adjustment adjustment withdrawal of difficulty, to dump all the coins and cause that Pump, now they with their 45% hash can mine the will and fill their pockets, while the developers of Bitcoin Cash earn as a reward the "CENTRALIZED" power of the new Bit[Suspicious link removed]d for everyone ... Despicable and Unfortunate. Cry Cry Cry
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November 12, 2017, 08:55:40 PM
#82
Rising of bitcoin cash is not as permanent as you thought, we should not have to panic to what happened in btc,after that upgrade of bch, the bitcoin will also be rise again and many people expect to that will happen
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November 12, 2017, 08:53:32 PM
#81
If BTC crashes to under 500 Euros I'll buy a bunch. In fact I hope that happens so I can stack up some more. Will it? Probably not. But you never know, people do irrational things.
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November 12, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
#80
the bitcoin cash hard fork is coming soon (within 1 day). We will see if cash will survive or not. If survives... it may rise again..
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November 12, 2017, 08:49:22 PM
#79
Nah.  Bitcoin has been infested with these sorts of dramas since its inception.

I am getting a little annoyed that I've got 3 transactions stuck in the blockchain, and it's beginning to feel like they're never going to get accepted.  And one of those is a purchase that won't get shipped until after the 1st confirmation.  That absolutely sucks, and I would have preferred to buy the item with doge or some other altcoin that doesn't have a mining war in progress and with a fee and confirmation time that's reasonable.  But no, my faith is not shaken.  I'm actually glad now that I sold all the bitcoin I had.  The uncertainty is a bitch, but we'll get through it.
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November 12, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
#78
I still believe in Bitcoin and I do believe it was just a temporary spike to confuse the minds of those new traders and give them something to think about. I mean we all know that BCH was created as an alternate coin and that thing that happened was just another pump and dump phenomenon or maybe whales just wanted to confuse the heads of some traders especially the newbies.
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November 12, 2017, 08:46:23 PM
#77
I also start losing faith in BTC not because the price dropped but because of all the people that just care about making profits and hoping to get rich quick. Of course it is nice to invest in a project you like and see it rise in value, but that should happen because BTC succeeds in being a globally scalable and privacy protecting currency and not because of some big whale market manipulation and pure speculation. At the moment it is just a big bubble and it either will pop or developers and miners get their shit together and make a great alternative currency
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November 12, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
#76
Anyone knows bitcoin and the technology behind it and its use in future believe it and what happen in prices or similar things shouldn't matter.
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November 12, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
#75
I don't care about dumping is price. If you trust bitcoin can fly away again to the moon you should be calm. Dont' worry weak hands sell there bitcoin to buy BCH that's crazy joining to hype but maybe other day BCH will be dumping soon and all traders will buy again bitcoin.
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