Topic: LTC CASINO Resolved. - page 9. (Read 20634 times)

They pop in and always say the same things. By now even softswiss  would  have done with the investigation.
Meantime  what was an amazing  win is now considerably less as ltc when  down a lot ,yet not signs of evidence ,even by softswiss.

in 2 weeks even the 3 months  of their t&  will expire and yet not sign of evidences.

Is all so unreal that a casino can act this  way.
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 ps "so far there is not prove of cheating "  they should say and not " there is not prove of fairness".
But i guess this is  how they run their casino : guilty till proven innocent!

That's not how it works.  The game isn't provably fair.   You pay unless there is proof the player somehow cheated.  There is no proof.  The provider investigated, they said there's no evidence of cheating.  It's been months.  Times up.  Look what you've done to your reputation.  Honestly I'm surprised you're still trying.  If you want any hope of fixing your mistakes, you need to pay the player immediately.  Even if there's a 95% chance the player cheated, you still need to pay them.  Otherwise you send the message this could happen to anyone, and think about how fucked up what you're doing is if you're wrong and the player is innocent.

By the way, Wazden is offered at several sites that offer instant cash outs.  As in, I could go hit the jackpot on the same game, for the same amount, and have the funds in my wallet in minutes.  Think about that.

Do you know that Wazdan and Felix are different providers? Felix was returned to the casino after they confirmed their fault. Wazdan was removed right after OP won his jackpots.

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Not any. Not counting that proved Felix gaming cheater (here is a thread on the forum.

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Not sure about the largest but I remember at least several 100-150k euros winnings last year. No any problems, they were withdrawn according to the limits successfully.

I think you should wait for short while before asking them to share because they are waiting for a reply from Softswiss. LTC Casino have stated they will release the funds to you if Softswiss are unable to prove you cheated the game. They already dismissed what Wazdan had concluded but they said they will adhere to the Softswiss findings. Let that situation conclude before proceeding further.

What is the largest payout your casino has made? Was it made without issues where the winner was accused of fraud before being found innocent and having the funds returned?

How many other winners have had their funds seized and not returned to them as a result of your claims of cheating?

My advice to OP keep your messages short since it's same things you post nobody will read everything...
Post less with short messages. Or 1 message long better than 10 long messages.

I'm not blaming you as we talk about 100k$ plus
But people who follows the post I doubt they have time to read like 10 long messages a day.
I'm in your side btw.

Ltc casino kindly share my gameplay with the admin of bitcointalk as promised by you previously.

The truth is there, and people can see i took breaks and also when i have won i did not play at night both nights.
You make it sound like i played night and day without ever stopping and is not true.

hopefully softswiss will be impartial and can prove you wrong.
 

It is you that is wrong. Read the post I made in context as a response to what you actually wrote.


The questions arise:

1) At which specific date did you first get suspicious?

2) At which specific date did you remove all Felix games?

3) If the official letter from Felix is dated 26th January 2022 yet the OP first deposited and first won funds before that letter was even published, why are you mentioning the Felix vulnerability? At which specific date did you seize the funds owed to the OP?

You are wrong. Of cource we have removed ALL games of this provider right after we got first suspicions.

Thanks for your comment. To be frank I honestly believe this people will never pay and probably would accuse softswiss of conjuring against them if softswiss investigation will turn up to be impartial and honest.
I have been feeling like I have been screaming in deaf ears for almost 3 months, not matter how much evidence one provides the casino keeps take time and not providing any evidence.
Beside the obvious theft the mental damage this casino has caused me can't be valued.
It is extremely hard to fight emotions when you know you have not cheated and the truth is out there and they keep lying against all the evidences.

Ltc casino should share my gameplay with bitcoitalk casino admin as that would be a real impartial third party.  They said they would have and again lied and did not delivered the promises.

@ltccasino  why don't you share my gameplay if you are so sure i have cheated? You don't because you know i haven't !!

IF I was the scammer i would fear the sharing of my gameplay, but i don't because i know i had breaks and my gameplay pattern will straightway prove that the use of a software was just unfounded accusation to don't pay me.

I am not longer the accused but iam the accuser because i was a victim of theft.
It is your time to prove the evidence that you are not another unlicensed casino that scam players and exploit them.
Many accusation on the net feed the narrative against your predatory ways of exploiting players, but i am here to fight for the money i have won honestly, for your predatory ways there will be karma ,because life will punish all the evils.

I want not pity, i want my won money and will not rest till you pay me.

Thank you for posting in this thread with a detailed response but sadly it does not clarify basic fundamentals.

I think the issue here is with the action and inaction on your part. Let us say for a moment the OP has been exploiting a vulnerability in the game... the question arises why did you not pull the game since there was already a well known exploit out there according to your own comments? By allowing members to play a game that you knew had vulnerabilities shows you enticed them to play therefore you have to honour any winnings.

If the member was not aware of any vulnerabilities and did not exploit any vulnerabilities and simply "won" then you have no case against him because just suspecting him of foul-play on a game that you yourself made available on your website even though you knew it could be exploited is a pointless case to make.

Do not wait for SoftSwiss to get back to you with results after an investigation because Wazdan have already given their views. I would advise you to try to find a mutually acceptable solution with the OP.

I cannot speak for others but I think the best course of action now would be to engage privately with the OP and agree terms of payout. If the OP accepts an amount of less than 1496 LTC or wants his full 1496 LTC on the basis he kindly requests those that left negative tags on your account to remove them and at the same time you do not accept liability but the payment details are kept hidden from the public chat - then that outcome could suit both yourself and the OP.

Today LTC is trading at just $81 (x1496 = $121,000) but at the time they incidents took place LTC was worth substantially more. I hope you can negotiate a way out of this with the victim to find a solution that both of you find acceptable.

I had never heard of your casino before therefore I took a look. There are no ownership LTD/LLC details are listed, terms and conditions are as vague as can be... no company or personal name or address, nothing... but having said that scam allegations have not been made against your casino to my knowledge. You still have plenty of time to regain lost reputation therefore I hope you engage with the OP as soon as possible to resolve this.

Actually, they are trying to find someone who will say a single word in favour of them. But all of the middleman who involved themselves to resolve the issue has stand against their scam behaviour. As a result they don't trust anyone . SoftSwiss team won't support their scam too.

Wazdan has made partnership with SoftSwiss to grow their business quickly. SoftSwiss works as a medium to make the Wazdan game available at those casinos where the casino team purchase SoftSwiss services. Anyway, there is no reason to trust LTC Casino. SoftSwiss can only work as a middleman in this case to short out the issue. Perhaps, SoftSwiss won't be able to resolve the issue as LTC Casino team members are liar. Wazdan team has shared the truth here, they also shared it with the casino guru team who was working as a middleman to resolve the issue before. LTC Casino doesn't care about anyone and they are trying to make us believe on their statement without providing any proof.

SoftSwiss is a big operator. They will never support the scam behaviour of LTC Casino. LTC Casino team members are trying to make the process long to scam more people in the meantime.

That's OK. Liars are usually like that. They tell a lie, then they tell another lie and so on. And that's how you should be branded, as liars. You lied about making the data public and you didn't. After that you lied that you would send the data to an admin, have you done that? Of course not. LoyceV has already shown his interest in looking at the data of the player and he has plenty of experience with that. But you are not going to send it, are you?

Your suspicions don't matter. You haven't been able to prove any of it.

Prove it. I have asked you many times. Post the proof and show the world how the player has cheated. When we are talking about suspicions, I suspect you are lying piece of shit based on your conduct so far. My suspicions outweigh yours because you haven't been able to prove anything you have said in those monologues of yours.

Really? Show it!

What if your Belarusian brother company SoftSwiss doesn't rule in your favor, what's the next step? Maybe the casino owner's aunt and uncle can act as the neutral party.

What makes you trust SoftSwiss while you don't trust Wazdan? Is that because Wazdan didn't rule in your favour, and told you to pay the player?

That's not how any of this works. You're supposed to know up front that the games you offer are fair. You don't need to prove that. If anything, you'd need to prove it's not fair, but you can't prove that. So what you meant to say is: "But now there is no proof that it's not fair". In other words: pay the player.

You are wrong. Wazdan DID NOT provide any confirmations of fairness of the winnings excepting words. They STILL DID NOT answer our questions, they just said "possibility to win those jackpots is XXX, so nothing wrong".


They are not competitors. SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.


No. We work since 2017 and paid even much bigger ammounts many times. As I said before we will pay this winning either if it was fair. But now there is no any proof of it's fairness and we are going to wait for the investigation results.

I have sent few emails to some softswiss email contact and ask them to pass my email to the ceo of softswiss  as this TTR ( LTC owner) stated in his video that an expert of softswiss checked my gameplay and thwy said i was 100% fraud, yet today ltc rep says that softSwiss are still investigating and did not mentioned that softswiss checked my gameplay an surely if they did ltc casino would have shared the statement as they did when they had the Felix case.

I am trying to get the contact email of Ivan Montik the ceo of softswiss as unfortunately i do not trust a word of ltc casino reps since they have lied about many things so far.

I also have casino guru statement who actually checked my gameplay and they checked it over and over and they confirmed i had breaks and use different bet sizes and volatilities and they comfirmed i had healthy breaks.
Wadzan checked it too, but i guess Ltc casino was not satisfied with two different third parties and decided to call scammer as well the game provider beside me.

LTC casino said i was playing with lowest volatilities but in my jackpot winning screenshot  I'm using the middle level , which funnily enough i thought was the speed.
They still using the excuse of me opening 4 accounts but they fail to admit is that they refuse to close my accounts when i asked them to close it as i couldn't stop it and i had to put my account in time out. Hint i open 4 accounts as the previous 3 were put in time out out of desperation.
 
ITt   was all happy days till i was making so many deposits, only after over well 15k and a massive win they decided  to block my account ( so they could close someone account if they wanted to)!!!

I know they will never pay me, it's almost 3 months now, they failed to provide evidence against me and to actually prove wadzan slots have bugs. Lots of accusations against everyone but not sign of taking accountability of their actions.

It will be interesting to know what softswiss has to say , if what ltc casino said is true and if they will be impartial. I did not cheat so if they lie about my game play ltc casino should share my gameplay publicly and get some impartial party to check it.

I am fearless as i know where i am standing , the problem i have been dealing with such shady people who still keep accusing me with not evidence after almost 3 months!!!
They disappear for almost a month and came back with the same story.. unbelievable.

If anyone has a contact of  Ivan Montik and could send it to me via private message i would really appreciate, i might not get paid at end but  i will make sure this horror story will be shared everywhere.


Regarding  the other accusations are laughable and at first they said the felix case made the casino lose 50000 and now is hundreds of thousands.  Next post will be millions. They can't even keep track of what they write in other posts.
Also they fail to say that accordingly to their own post the cheating player started with 300 dodge. I actually spent well over 15k of British pounds in litecoins.  They literally believe is impossible to win unless you cheat!!!
And this says it all!

Regarding this reply, I wouldn't even comment on those.

Firstly, SoftSwiss is a “Game Aggregator” provider, offering white-label and other solutions to online casinos. Many online casinos are powered by SoftSwiss, including some reputable casino brands visible in this forum. (And some less reputable ones.)

Now, if it is true that the SoftSwiss representative commented on this case, it’s adding another dimension to this whole case, as they have Wazdan in their standard offer. Those two things contradict each other.

Will they pull out Wazdan provider from their portfolio of game selections, in the case, they “find out” that their slots are full of bugs? All online casinos powered by SoftSwiss will drop Wazdan games?

I would highly recommend you ask for the official statement from SoftSwiss as this whole case can damage their reputation as well.

3 post ups with the translation from Russian to English.
He made his video in Russian probably for making believe  his Russian followers  that is not a liar.
There is plenty of infos of this guy on the net, again ltc casino says one thing but still not paying after almost 3 months so called investigations.


it's all unreal!!

I didn't see the video, I don't trust them. Anyway, if you have the video where the CEO shows his Face, if you have the CEO's full name and the CEO's nationality, then you can report your case to your country's police, I believe your country's police can get in touch with interpol to do more research on this casino and arrest the scammer or at least take him to court and make him pay you, do it while they are left with these pointless arguments, don't wait for their investigation, these guys are not trustworthy, trust the police and courts only, because they are the only ones who can solve your case