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Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 18, 2022, 05:18:38 AM
@bambolina
You can post in the Casino Guru thread that Wazdan has no problems with LTC Casino sharing the complete data they have on your activities. Include the links to the posts where they mention it in this thread. You can also ask the Wazdan forum rep to post in the Casino Guru thread that it's ok to share the data. I doubt it will change the casino's decision at this point in time, but you never know. That way at least everyone will see them as the bad guy withholding information and refusing a payout with no proof of wrongdoings.   

@Volt Ent  would you be able to do that?

Ltc casino has share the gameplay history with casino guru rep , of course they also found not irregularities on it and of course ltc casino did not accept that either.

As the player i am happy to share my data as is mine and the casino has deliberately block my account to hide the proves as if they wre innocent they would want to cooperate  and share the truth.

@Pmalek  i think is clear who's the bad guy is here, i will however contact casino guru and ask them.

LTC sent me a message saying they will reply later today, I hold not hopes to be honest.

Let's see what other excuses they will come up with!!

I am a victim in here and i will not fight so hard if i cheated and i will do anything i can to expose this casino now.

PS  why om earth the game provider and casino guru would have lied about their checks? They are the ones with the good reputation and not ltc casino.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
April 18, 2022, 05:05:34 AM
@bambolina
You can post in the Casino Guru thread that Wazdan has no problems with LTC Casino sharing the complete data they have on your activities. Include the links to the posts where they mention it in this thread. You can also ask the Wazdan forum rep to post in the Casino Guru thread that it's ok to share the data. I doubt it will change the casino's decision at this point in time, but you never know. That way at least everyone will see them as the bad guy withholding information and refusing a payout with no proof of wrongdoings.   
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 18, 2022, 03:12:43 AM
I knew they were scammers from the moment they blocked my account as an honest casino would have email me a congratulations email and let me know that they were going to start an investigation as standard procedure.

ONLY A ROGUE CASINO BLOCK THE USER AND GHOSTS HIM.

The chat operator was always so rude and then simply close my chat when i tried to get some updates.
MY money might be gone but i'll now make sure every single place will be warned about them.
I haven't thought about google but i will today.

Plenty of places were can i warn others about them.

Also the owner of this casino seems to live in Portugal so i'll see if i can report him there  as he's the Ceo  of LTC.
if i can spend 16 hours playing a slot i can also do 16 hours a day campaign to make sure others will not get scammed.
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They did indeed chose my money over their reputation , so let's see now how cost effective it will be for them to steal my winnings.

I'll be driven by anger and nothing is going to stop me now.
aew
jr. member
Activity: 141
Merit: 7
April 18, 2022, 01:51:59 AM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

Unfortunately, we can't share anything here, we are following strict GDPR rules. One of our main values in the business is - that we want to follow the rules it doesn't matter if it is responsible gaming, fair gaming, GDPR - we want to be in line with them. Any private correspondence we would share here is a violation of these rules. We will of course share it without any problem if we will be asked by any court or police.  As I mentioned already, we are usually not taking part in such discussions, as this is a dispute between a player and the casino he/she is decided to play with, but in this case, LTC Casino started to publish some unreal and false accusations about our studio, so we decided to put our statement officially, to defend us.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.


How can i obtain my own data ?

The casino blocked my account , if the casino let me access my account i'll be more than happy to share but so far the casino ignores me and they won't even reply to me!

@ltccasino can u please send me my data??

I have not issue for the casino to share publicly my game history and they might aswell share the deposit history like that people can actually see that its crazy to think one would spend so much money if they had this magic bug!!

They don't share because the truth will seal the case!

Ltc share it and lets see whos lying!



Unfortunately, it is completely against the rules and standards of civilized and licensed casinos. They can block your account to not allow you to put more bets, and do deposits/withdrawals if they have a reason for it, but blocking the history is clear evidence of scam activities. Of course, let's give a chance to LTC Casino representative and let's wait for their reply, now when they can't blame our studio anymore, maybe they can show the evidence here?


I have asked in this forum already  to them to share my game history and even my deposit history but they didn't even Acknowledged  me!!

I  was simply the cash cow , they never treated me like a clients but like a scammer from day one.


Let's wait and see if they are going to  finally show some evidence to back up all their accusations.

Now the cards can be put in the table for everyone to see who's the scammer!!




i dont think any evidence will matter now . it seems the casino had two options first to keep the reputation and pay you your 1300ltc .  second option is scam you for 1300ltc and sacrifice the reputation here . so i guess they choose the second option .
they gonna be like 1xbit finding new clients from other platforms or by banner advertisements . its not like every gambler use bitcointalk . we saw many players fall victim to site like 1xbit  even thought since years 1xbit was tagged as scam  .. and those victims find out about bitcointalk after they fall victim and after too late so i guess its the same case gonna be with ltc casino .
also they might target users who search for keyword ltc casino or litecoin casino .. only effective way might be to report it to google if there a way so google search can drop the ranking

its better to move on OP .
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 03:48:51 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

Unfortunately, we can't share anything here, we are following strict GDPR rules. One of our main values in the business is - that we want to follow the rules it doesn't matter if it is responsible gaming, fair gaming, GDPR - we want to be in line with them. Any private correspondence we would share here is a violation of these rules. We will of course share it without any problem if we will be asked by any court or police.  As I mentioned already, we are usually not taking part in such discussions, as this is a dispute between a player and the casino he/she is decided to play with, but in this case, LTC Casino started to publish some unreal and false accusations about our studio, so we decided to put our statement officially, to defend us.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.


How can i obtain my own data ?

The casino blocked my account , if the casino let me access my account i'll be more than happy to share but so far the casino ignores me and they won't even reply to me!

@ltccasino can u please send me my data??

I have not issue for the casino to share publicly my game history and they might aswell share the deposit history like that people can actually see that its crazy to think one would spend so much money if they had this magic bug!!

They don't share because the truth will seal the case!

Ltc share it and lets see whos lying!



Unfortunately, it is completely against the rules and standards of civilized and licensed casinos. They can block your account to not allow you to put more bets, and do deposits/withdrawals if they have a reason for it, but blocking the history is clear evidence of scam activities. Of course, let's give a chance to LTC Casino representative and let's wait for their reply, now when they can't blame our studio anymore, maybe they can show the evidence here?


I have asked in this forum already  to them to share my game history and even my deposit history but they didn't even Acknowledged  me!!

I  was simply the cash cow , they never treated me like a clients but like a scammer from day one.


Let's wait and see if they are going to  finally show some evidence to back up all their accusations.

Now the cards can be put in the table for everyone to see who's the scammer!!



newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 14
April 17, 2022, 03:29:33 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

Unfortunately, we can't share anything here, we are following strict GDPR rules. One of our main values in the business is - that we want to follow the rules it doesn't matter if it is responsible gaming, fair gaming, GDPR - we want to be in line with them. Any private correspondence we would share here is a violation of these rules. We will of course share it without any problem if we will be asked by any court or police.  As I mentioned already, we are usually not taking part in such discussions, as this is a dispute between a player and the casino he/she is decided to play with, but in this case, LTC Casino started to publish some unreal and false accusations about our studio, so we decided to put our statement officially, to defend us.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.


How can i obtain my own data ?

The casino blocked my account , if the casino let me access my account i'll be more than happy to share but so far the casino ignores me and they won't even reply to me!

@ltccasino can u please send me my data??

I have not issue for the casino to share publicly my game history and they might aswell share the deposit history like that people can actually see that its crazy to think one would spend so much money if they had this magic bug!!

They don't share because the truth will seal the case!

Ltc share it and lets see whos lying!



Unfortunately, it is completely against the rules and standards of civilized and licensed casinos. They can block your account to not allow you to put more bets, and do deposits/withdrawals if they have a reason for it, but blocking the history is clear evidence of scam activities. Of course, let's give a chance to LTC Casino representative and let's wait for their reply, now when they can't blame our studio anymore, maybe they can show the evidence here?
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 03:15:18 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

Unfortunately, we can't share anything here, we are following strict GDPR rules. One of our main values in the business is - that we want to follow the rules it doesn't matter if it is responsible gaming, fair gaming, GDPR - we want to be in line with them. Any private correspondence we would share here is a violation of these rules. We will of course share it without any problem if we will be asked by any court or police.  As I mentioned already, we are usually not taking part in such discussions, as this is a dispute between a player and the casino he/she is decided to play with, but in this case, LTC Casino started to publish some unreal and false accusations about our studio, so we decided to put our statement officially, to defend us.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.


How can i obtain my own data ?

The casino blocked my account , if the casino let me access my account i'll be more than happy to share but so far the casino ignores me and they won't even reply to me!

@ltccasino can u please send me my data??

I have not issue for the casino to share publicly my game history and they might aswell share the deposit history like that people can actually see that its crazy to think one would spend so much money if they had this magic bug!!

They don't share because the truth will seal the case!

Ltc share it and lets see whos lying!

newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 14
April 17, 2022, 03:02:03 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

Unfortunately, we can't share anything here, we are following strict GDPR rules. One of our main values in the business is - that we want to follow the rules it doesn't matter if it is responsible gaming, fair gaming, GDPR - we want to be in line with them. Any private correspondence we would share here is a violation of these rules. We will of course share it without any problem if we will be asked by any court or police.  As I mentioned already, we are usually not taking part in such discussions, as this is a dispute between a player and the casino he/she is decided to play with, but in this case, LTC Casino started to publish some unreal and false accusations about our studio, so we decided to put our statement officially, to defend us.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 02:29:58 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

I wish i could but the casino blocked my account otherwise i would have already share it!!!

Ltc casino share the game history with casino guru btw and they found not irregularities.

I wonder if i give permission via email to the game provider if they could share it as the casino blocked my account and i can't access my own data!
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
April 17, 2022, 02:11:27 PM
Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy.
That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it.
So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
April 17, 2022, 12:12:10 PM
It would be amazing if  the owner is not involved and the managers just acted ruthlessly and damage the casino reputation.
The only way for that to happen, is if the managers took your winnings for themselves. Otherwise they have no reason to withhold winnings. But if they took it, it won't stay under the radar. So this is all very unlikely.
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 11:15:15 AM
Send a message to the owner, (https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/members/ttr.11796/) he has got 4 online casinos and maybe is not even aware of what is happening at all. It's unlikely, however, but it's still worth a try asking if he has seen this thread at all. He is a hardcore player himself, and generally a decent guy.

I did already!
Smiley

sent him also the link of the scam accusation. but what's the chance he's not aware of this?
I wish the casino owner was an honest person and the whole matter has been handled by unprofessional greedy managers.
The fact that they casino rep has been defaming publicly the game provider is a big thing.

It would be amazing if  the owner is not involved and the managers just acted ruthlessly and damage the casino reputation.
Everything is possible i guess.

He does know now as i tagged him so we shall see.

It would be a dream if the casino owner fires the managers and pays the winning but i do not hold any hopes.

We shall see!
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
April 17, 2022, 11:04:06 AM
Send a message to the owner, (https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/members/ttr.11796/) he has got 4 online casinos and maybe is not even aware of what is happening at all. It's unlikely, however, but it's still worth a try asking if he has seen this thread. He is a hardcore player himself, and generally a decent guy.
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 08:10:46 AM
The casino rep has publicly revealed the casino owner name
How do you know that's their real name? My name is not Loyce Valenzuala Wink
And even if it's real: there are probably many people with the same name, so unless you know where they're from, they'll be very hard to find.

I suggest you start by complaining to their domain registrar. Ask them to take the domain offline for scamming (that worked in this case).

https://imgur.com/a/sUBVMur

the casino rep revealed  the  casino owner in one of their posts in this forum brqging about being a famous Russian billionaire  streamer.

They  literally  bragged about the owner saying  they pay big wins.

 I will contact  their domains  too, i will try all i can to stop them.

ill wait till tomorrow  to see if they are going to find some common sense, if they don't  ill just make sure they will be legally  persecuted.

People think is impossible,  we shall see.
Already  making people aware of who they truly are will make them lose more than my 1496 Ltc.

I have one quality  I'm  persistant  and I hate scammers and I will  not let them scam anyone ever again.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
April 17, 2022, 07:54:17 AM
The casino rep has publicly revealed the casino owner name
How do you know that's their real name? My name is not Loyce Valenzuala Wink
And even if it's real: there are probably many people with the same name, so unless you know where they're from, they'll be very hard to find.

I suggest you start by complaining to their domain registrar. Ask them to take the domain offline for scamming (that worked in this case).
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 07:44:21 AM
Does anyone know if contacting  EFECC  will help?

 https://www.europol.europa.eu/about-europol/european-financial-and-economic-crime-centre-efecc#:~:text=EFECC%2C%20founded%20in%20June%202020,target%20individuals%2C%20countries%20and%20companies.

The casino rep has publicly revealed the casino owner name, my money seems lost but if this people will be legally persecuted il''be happy.

I will not let this matter go and I'll do everything that is legally possible to stop them.

The  will learn the hard way not to scam people.

They just scammed the wrong girl.
member
Activity: 191
Merit: 21
April 17, 2022, 06:42:33 AM
Hi everyone,  i wanted to say thank  you to those who have supported  the flag.

I feel the  casino will go silent  now, if i have any rights i can email the game provider permission  to share the infos  requested  on the  forum.
i have nothing to hide and not fear that something will be found.

unlikely the casino i want 100% transparency, i have the emails recieved  from the game provider  and not a single email  showed that they took a side.
Why should they have? And i never asked them to as I'm  aware  that  wouldn't have.

They  have a very good reputation  in the gambling  industry why side me or even the casino?
They were simply honest.

The casino can come up clean and show the correspondence between  them and the game provider.
I can show mine as I said I have not shadows on me.

At first the  casino  tried to find thousand  of excuses,  the multiple accounts , me playing  from uk and not being English,  playing for 16 hours and using only one slots.

Every single excuse  was proven wrong as they  allow multiple  accounts and they never  imply a play limit to the players.
They assumed many things but did not show a single  evidence.

After they start to focus  on defaming  the game provider, so I wonder  where am i in this picture.

I know I have  not cheated and casino guru also checked  my gameplay history and found nothing  of the ordinary.

Are we all scammers and the casino  is a victim of everyone?

This whole situation has effected me mentally a big deal as im already  going through really hard times and I did not need  a rogue  casino to add salt into my wounds.

One thing is for  sure I'll  not stop until I get  justice.

I feel I have been robbed and the casino is responsible.
member
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April 17, 2022, 04:10:37 AM
Please note, that the jackpot we are speaking here about is not a progressive jackpot or any similar solution which is very unlikely to be won many times in a row, but one of four in-game jackpots which are included in POWER OF GODS: HADES and are a standard part of the gameplay, being a part of our HOLD THE JACKPOT feature. You can check yourself in the demo version of this game: https://wazdan.com/en/games/game/168

It is nice to see a game provider representative participating in the discussion. Again, welcome to the board @Volt Ent. (Wazdan), and the community appreciates it.

There were two pieces of information on the Forum about the odds of hitting Grandjackpot (one in a million and 1/166,945). Which one is correct?
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 14
April 17, 2022, 04:01:30 AM
LTC Casino started by claiming OP scammed them, and when that failed suggested the game provider is in on it.
True. In the beginning it was all about OP's suspicious activities, like playing the same slot allegedly 16 hours with no breaks and winning 3 jackpots, which is unusual, but not impossible. It then shifted to Wazdan hiding something and not wanting to help with the investigation because they were refusing to provide the requested data and information about the player. All of that is theoretically possible, but since they are refusing to provide any proof, it's now becoming a fairytale and wet dream of theirs. That's why I am now hoping that Wazdan will show more openness and confirm what their claims with proof.

Some new posts will probably appear in the Casino Guru thread and one of them is by LTC Casino. I am interested in what they will say.   

Please note, that the jackpot we are speaking here about is not a progressive jackpot or any similar solution which is very unlikely to be won many times in a row, but one of four in-game jackpots which are included in POWER OF GODS: HADES and are a standard part of the gameplay, being a part of our HOLD THE JACKPOT feature. You can check yourself in the demo version of this game: https://wazdan.com/en/games/game/168
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 14
April 17, 2022, 03:54:17 AM


- we answered all your questions, and we ASSURED you, that after the check of the gameplay everything was absolutely ok with it.
I see that LoyceV has already confirmed that this account belongs to Wazdan just in case people are wondering who you really are. LTC Casino refuses to release any data to the public. How about you? The casino claims you answered none of their questions. They said they had several follow-up questions they received no answers to. You are saying you gave them everything they asked for. Can you show proof of that, so we can see who is telling the truth? Can you release the information you sent to LTC Casino, the additional questions they emailed you, and the answers you provided?   

Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy. It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it. We are not a side, in this case, we just went public, as there was false info shared by the operator, that we are the one responsible for the situation, which is not true. The only evidence from the operator is that they "feel that a game has to be with a bug" because someone won money on it and they don't like it.



- your casino doesn't have any gaming license and is not providing even the name of the owner company or any address of it. Seems a bit scam, isn't it?
Question: shouldn't Wazdan check those things before a casino can use their games?


Our games were distributed to LTC Casino by one of many of our reselling partners who is at the disposal of all proper licenses and documents.
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