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July 30, 2021, 04:57:50 AM
Ok, so the deal is done already, now it's going to be an interesting West series, Lakers, Phoenix, Dallas, Clippers and Denver are going to fight it on for the 1st spot. I would say that this is really an upgrade for the Lakers but the caveat is that they should remain very healthy in the next season. We don't want to see two superstars getting injured at the same time. For sure Westbrook's presence and tenacity will have a domino effect on the Lakers here. Excited to see them next season.
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July 30, 2021, 04:57:27 AM
After this trade, the Lakers starting line looks crazy. So if the top players are not injured again, they definitely will be favorites next season. However, I guess the Lakers gave a lot to get Westbrook, and they should also improve the bench.
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July 30, 2021, 04:48:19 AM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

The deal is done, Lakers already decided to acquire him and sent some of their players. When it comes to defense, LA Lakers has no problem with that as Lebron, Davis and Westbrook is a good defender, they just need to stay healthy so next time their goal to win a championship again will be realize.
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July 30, 2021, 04:47:21 AM

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

He need to adjust if he wanted to win a title, LeBron is good holding the ball and finding the open man WB don't need to carry the ball
and create his own plays.

His departure to Lakers might have a good impacts knowing that he's also a good options mostly for their offense.

Just the same with his trade for both Houston and Wizard, he's no longer the main alpha and he needs to work it out from those
who are the main of the Pack, LeBron and AD together with all the coaching staff will guide him on how to work with his new team.
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July 30, 2021, 04:47:07 AM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.

Him and Beal has a good chemistry in the Wizards team, of course he is a ball hog but we sure see him adjust when he went to Washington. And I guess he needs to adjust because he is not the alpha of the team but Lebron is.

Gonna be fun to watch as long as him and Lebron are healthy as a team. But they need to acquire more role players, like a replacement for KCP. AD and Drummond + Gasol will do the center/power forward position, but what they lack is the 2nd spot.
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July 30, 2021, 04:20:44 AM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.

Westbrook is only good when all of his team mate will only take the support and defense role because he wants always the ball as you can see on his field goal attempt. He has an attitude like harden that's why it's so hard to have a chemistry to this 2 player. Lakers don't need him, A full healthy roster of Lakers is enough to win again the championship.
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July 30, 2021, 04:16:16 AM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Well that's what the Lakers did when they acquire Lebron, they gave up a lot of young and talented players and then kept Kuzma and KCP. Now the two are also in the trading discussion to get Westbrook.
The trade already happened per report. https://www.skysports.com/nba/news/36226/12367611/russell-westbrook-traded-to-los-angeles-lakers-in-blockbuster-deal-with-washington-wizards

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The Washington Wizards have agreed to send superstar Russell Westbrook to the Los Angeles Lakers for three players and what was the number 22 pick in Thursday night's NBA draft, The Athletic and ESPN have reported.

In addition to the first-round pick, the Wizards are receiving Kyle Kuzma, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Montrezl Harrell, per the reports.
No more talented young players for the Lakers, they are desperate to win a championship again and I think the starting 5 is enough to win again.
They can easily acquire players with the skills like Kuzma and KCP, they just need to focus on building a good chemistry with the new addition.
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July 30, 2021, 03:59:17 AM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Well that's what the Lakers did when they acquire Lebron, they gave up a lot of young and talented players and then kept Kuzma and KCP. Now the two are also in the trading discussion to get Westbrook.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

True, but Lakers is still build around Lebron, he still has like 1 or 2 years contracts and same with AD so I guess Lakers will have to think about that options once these 2 players contracts have expired.
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July 29, 2021, 11:25:02 PM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.

Superstars usually build their team chemistry in just 1 season.
So, I think this isn't a bad move for the Lakers after all.
Westbrook is a good addition to every team, he just needs to fit with the system.
They're not done yet with the rebuilding let's see how well the Lakers management pick up their additional pieces.
These trades are getting more exciting to each and every team.
I'm also waiting for the Clippers to make a move.
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July 29, 2021, 10:01:20 PM
I don't like the way the Lakers are doing things now. I get it, they are building a team around Lebron but they just keep on giving short contracts for players. It takes out the chemistry that is happening with them.

Yeah, let's say 1 time it was successful but Lebron is not getting any younger, they need a new face for the Lakers and if it's AD then build for AD and just let James be the veteran for the team.
The trade was done.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russell-westbrook-acquired-lakers-mega-trade-joining-lebron-james-la
Westbrook is now a Laker.
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July 29, 2021, 09:43:41 PM
Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least.
The problem with those guys is "consistently inconsistent" lol. It's way better for me to ship those as I don't know on what part they contribute big out from their inconsistency. If Lebron James and Anthony Davis aren't present, no one from that 3 is stepping up or just in a few situations.

If the deal will be finalized and Lakers got Westbrook, they won the deal. Westbrook can carry a team consistently. Lakers are surely in good hands whenever Bron or AD, in case, sidelined or not present.

On the other hand, Harrel, KCP, and Kuzma will be a good addition to the Wizards. They lack supporting roles so they have also won the deal.
I laughed with what you said but its true that they are kinda inconsistent and the 3 of them have histories of injuries that might affect the team as a whole.

The deal of Wizards-Lakers have been done. Like what I've done with the Nets in 2020-2021 NBA season, I will not expect too much with this 3 superstars on the Lakers because like you said, they are inconsistent because of the injuries. I'm thinking that the Wizards have won this trade just because of how efficient KCP is and how good Harrell and add a role player maybe in Kuzma.

More overrated trades gonna happen again but the recent official trade of Westbrook to Lakers is the real deal. Sauce please! Hoping they wouldn't disappoint the purple and gold fans this time now they got more explosive than ever, as what Og said hoping they got healthy physique this incoming regular season though.

We will be seeing more and more exciting trades and most of these will be mind blowing again.
The trade has been done and it looks exciting but for me, I'm still waiting who will get Simmons and what will be his value when he is traded. The Ben Simmons Saga is like the Kawhi Leonard Saga when he left Toronto.
Like I said, I'm not hoping too much with this Lakers team because all 3 of them has history of injuries and it will affect the team as a whole knowing that they traded most of their reliable bench players.
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July 29, 2021, 09:06:00 PM
More overrated trades gonna happen again but the recent official trade of Westbrook to Lakers is the real deal. Sauce please! Hoping they wouldn't disappoint the purple and gold fans this time now they got more explosive than ever, as what Og said hoping they got healthy physique this incoming regular season though.

We will be seeing more and more exciting trades and most of these will be mind blowing again.
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July 29, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.

Yup, it gonna be Showtime again, we all know that Russ loves to run with the ball and with James and Davis at the wing, we might see them having a good time with fast break dunks. But they need some perimeter guys as well, that can defend to opposing teams main man. Russ doesn't want to play defense or at least stay away from fouling anyone. So just imagine if both teams are healthy, Lakers vs Nets in the finals next season, that will be fire. James vs KD, Westbrook vs Harden. I think its a win-win for both teams, Harrell was not a perfect fit to the Lakers and Kuzma, oh well, we see him choking in the playoffs. KCP is a 50-50 to me, although it seems that he also play below par in the series against Phoenix. I remember James urging him to shoot the ball.

Westbrook will be so effective if Lebron will give up that PG to position and give the right to Westbrook to handle it and make some plays. This is the redemption for Westbrook, time for him to prove against his old teammates in OKC ( Durant and Harden) that he is better than them if he will win a championship together with the king.
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July 29, 2021, 08:36:33 PM
The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.

Yup, it gonna be Showtime again, we all know that Russ loves to run with the ball and with James and Davis at the wing, we might see them having a good time with fast break dunks. But they need some perimeter guys as well, that can defend to opposing teams main man. Russ doesn't want to play defense or at least stay away from fouling anyone. So just imagine if both teams are healthy, Lakers vs Nets in the finals next season, that will be fire. James vs KD, Westbrook vs Harden. I think its a win-win for both teams, Harrell was not a perfect fit to the Lakers and Kuzma, oh well, we see him choking in the playoffs. KCP is a 50-50 to me, although it seems that he also play below par in the series against Phoenix. I remember James urging him to shoot the ball.
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July 29, 2021, 08:25:16 PM
Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least.

The problem with those guys is "consistently inconsistent" lol. It's way better for me to ship those as I don't know on what part they contribute big out from their inconsistency. If Lebron James and Anthony Davis aren't present, no one from that 3 is stepping up or just in a few situations.

If the deal will be finalized and Lakers got Westbrook, they won the deal. Westbrook can carry a team consistently. Lakers are surely in good hands whenever Bron or AD, in case, sidelined or not present.

On the other hand, Harrel, KCP, and Kuzma will be a good addition to the Wizards. They lack supporting roles so they have also won the deal.

Obviously, the Lakers will still be the big winner in the offseason trades, however, that is just on paper as we hype the Lakers last season but it turns out the trade or acquisition of players did not work well. By the way, is Drummond staying with the Lakers? they still had Gasol, right?
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July 29, 2021, 08:19:55 PM
Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least.

The problem with those guys is "consistently inconsistent" lol. It's way better for me to ship those as I don't know on what part they contribute big out from their inconsistency. If Lebron James and Anthony Davis aren't present, no one from that 3 is stepping up or just in a few situations.

If the deal will be finalized and Lakers got Westbrook, they won the deal. Westbrook can carry a team consistently. Lakers are surely in good hands whenever Bron or AD, in case, sidelined or not present.

On the other hand, Harrel, KCP, and Kuzma will be a good addition to the Wizards. They lack supporting roles so they have also won the deal.
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July 29, 2021, 08:13:25 PM
Anyway, lets continue the Ben Simmons Saga Cheesy. Just hours ago the 76ers offered the Warriors a trade.

Warriors will receive Ben Simmons
Spurs will receive Wiggins, Wiseman, their 2 2021 first round picks (7 & 14) and 2 future first round picks.

I admit that the 76ers are very greedy with this trade maybe because of the rumors that the Warriors are interested on him. Anyway, the Warriors rejected "quickly" and its pretty obvious that the 76ers will win the trade if this happened.

I think that's too much to ask for Ben Simmons, the Warriors could be interested in him but not to the expense of another big man which they really need if they want to compete next season. Thompson might be back, so they have a chance to be in the playoffs again, they just need to add a bit or let go of some of the players but not to affect their future chances in a negative way.

So with that news, we might not see Simmons to the Warriors, what team will probably acquire him?
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July 29, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.
I thought that the Lakers-Kings trade has been done but it seems like it hasn't finalized yet.
Westbrook going to Lakers in exchange of Trez, Kuz, KCP and 2021 first round pick.

TBH, if this trade will be done then it is hard to pick which team is the winner at least for me. Yes the Lakers got a reliable and a talented triple-double guy in Westbrook but lets not forget the contributions that Trez KCP and Kuz to the Lakers team. Trez and KCP are a good defenders and Kuz is a good role player at least. Its just unfortunate that they got Harrell in Clippers but they didn't utilize him when he is in the Lakers. If this trade will happen then he might redeem himself in the Wizards.

I don't see any problem with his stats. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/simmobe01.html

The only problem is his lack of IQ especially in the playoffs, this guy is 100% a star in the future, and we have to give him a try, maybe if he play with other teams he will improve. Spurs management is good in developing players, we have seen players that started with Spur and are very valuable in their current team now, even the coach of the Bucks, he used to be an assistant coach of Gregg Popovic.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/budenmi99c.html
We have different opinions Smiley. You might believe that he will be a star in the future but for me he isn't. Lets just hope that he will land into a team that will train him very hard to the point that they will let him shoot threes and improve his free throw shooting because I agree with what you said that his stats are better than the average player but when you need him, he can't be trusted and we saw this against the Hawks.

Anyway, lets continue the Ben Simmons Saga Cheesy. Just hours ago the 76ers offered the Warriors a trade.

Warriors will receive Ben Simmons
Spurs will receive Wiggins, Wiseman, their 2 2021 first round picks (7 & 14) and 2 future first round picks.

I admit that the 76ers are very greedy with this trade maybe because of the rumors that the Warriors are interested on him. Anyway, the Warriors rejected "quickly" and its pretty obvious that the 76ers will win the trade if this happened.
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July 29, 2021, 07:43:11 PM
The Lakers are crazy… This Westbrook deal has to make them the favorites again. They need to figure out why Drummond didn’t work and fix that problem in the middle as well as add a shooter, but I think this Lakers team is going to make the Nets wait another year before they get to hoist a title with this lineup if they can all stay healthy.
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July 29, 2021, 06:56:47 PM
Lakers are getting close to a deal for Kyle Kuzma. Looks like they’ll have to choose if they want to get Buddy Hield or Demar Derozan. I think Derozan is probably the way to go because he’ll likely bring Kyle Lowry with him, but I think Buddy Hield is a much better fit with LeBron. Still, if you have the chance to add 2 future hall of gamers to your lineup, you should probably take it.

This is somewhat interesting development: 2021 NBA Draft: Wizards near deal to trade Russell Westbrook to the Lakers for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a first round pick.

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It looks like the Washington Wizards are going to look very different next season. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, the team is near a deal to trade Russell Westbrook to the Los Angeles Lakers for Kyle Kuzma, Montrezl Harrell, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and a 2021 first-round pick. However, there is still more work to be done.

I think this is beneficial for the Lakers to let go of the 3 and get Westbrook to form their own super teams now and fight again for the NBA ring for Bron, specially for Westbrook to get a ring before he retires.

So much hype for Kuzma as Lakers didn't let go of him before, but it's pretty obvious by now that he is only pure hype. They should have kept Brandon Ingram instead.

Yeah I seen that too.  I think russ to the Lakers males sense.  He won't have to carry the load.  And he can get his own buckets at will.  That's what they need is someone who can get their own whenever need be.  Right now they have a lot of guys who sit around and watch brow and Bron play their game and get the scraps.  Russ can win games by himself, Kuma can't be that.
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