Topic: ===►Maidak scammed me 400$ BTC,this time is for sure===► - page 3. (Read 18995 times)

What I completely dislike in this forum is when everyone - especially those on the default trust list - jump in to leave negative feedback for deals they have absolutely nothing to do with.
In my opinion, this is also some kind of abuse of power. I don't want to attack anyone here; I just want to leave my opinion.

The only ones leaving negative feedback here should be those who were involved in the trades, and no one else. There is no need for some sort of altruistic Samaritans jumping in on any situation possible.
This makes the reputation system flawed, misleading and a direct invitation for abuse. Actually, there should be an option to hide the trust data of any user, and it should be hidden by default.

Also, the default list should not exist. There should be some other way to define if a user's rating matters or not.

Did he refunded anyone yet?

It looks like Maidak's OTC profile has a rating from someone who claims that Maidak owes him $10,000. I am not sure how reputable that person is. The rating was sent to Maidak's profile on August 17 (roughly a week ago)

He keeps saying i will pay all the debts, his saying, but he never contact me to tell me to wait or anything else. Why should everybody remove his feedback? Until we, the ones that got scammed by this guy, will not post here that the problem was resolved, nobody should remove nothing. Doesn't matter how good he was before, now he is just another scammer, and we talk about $4-5k's, not $400-500

rofl at his blackmail type trust postings on others walls.

Seems a bit silly that he's leaving negative on a few people. I'd concentrate on repaying the money you owe rather than leaving unjust retaliatory feedback as you're not doing yourself any favours and if/when you do pay it back those people will be less likely to remove the feedback they left.

How much and to who does he owe now? Has he made any promises as to when the money will be returned?

So you gave me now a negative trust rating stating that you remove it once i remove mine and once you paid the money back.

I'm not sure why you think i should get a negative trust from you. You aren't in default trust anymore so it won't be seen by others but still this looks like nothing that should happen. The trust system surely is not for "I remove mine when you remove yours"-games.

I don't know how the others think about that. You surely don't await that no one from the forum gives you negative trust so that you possibly could "lend" more money, don't you? And this behaviour let it look like you feel you did nothing wrong at all. As if you feel treated unfair by those members on default list giving you negative.

Like i wrote, you can still trade with escrows. But demanding that you should have a clean trust rating is morally questionable and makes your mindset questionable too.

I'm happy that you try to fix that. After i heard what happened i actually was lucky since i misse not being paid by you for a hairsbreadth.

The trust is surely for warning other people and i think markj113 has a valid point. You would have no known red trust with only the victims voting. And i think not trusting you is needed for now since it seems you accepted payment for contracts you knew you can't fill. A warning is needed for sure.

By the way... you can still trade fine by using an escrow since the other parties risk is taken down.

So if you repay anyone thats cool and if you are lucky your -rep will be removed but can you guarantee you wont "scam" anymore ?

I can't do anything else, really. I'm from Argentina and taking legal action would be way more expensive.
If he really tries to pay back to me and the other user, great. If not, lesson learned for me (already learned actually).

Words are cheap, how many months has he had to start paying anything back?

(edit : looking at your profile it will be 1 year next month   )

If you want your money back then start legal action immediately.

Seems he is more concerned about getting the negative rep removed so he can start trading here again.


Getting negative rep for stealing over $4000 is blowing things out of proportion apparently and the only people who should leave him negative feedback are the 2 newbie users not on the default trust list so other newbies cant see what he's been up to.

Hello,
today Maidak contacted me and explained the situation and everything he's been through.

He told me that this week he would be figuring out a proper time frame to pay what he owes me.

So, altough I have lost my faith at this point, I think it's good that he's trying to fix this.

I will be updating the topic, and of course if he pays back I will post it here, so everyone can know, and also he can recover from his bad reputation right now.

I changed the pass and still plan on paying everyone back. I also hope that my reputation is restored back to normal considering this has been blown out of proportion and the 2 people involved should of been the only 2 to go and use the feedback system to put it at negative. No one else but these people were affected. The fact that its a free for all seems to me like its abusive. I can say with all this negative feedback its been pretty damn hard making any extra income which is most definitely needed in my current situation with IRS in order to pay the 2 users back..

I saw that he changed his password recently. I doubt though that someone buys that account with this red trust even when it is a legendary.

For now i changed my rating to negative until he paid back everyone.

I agree with you. Paying back is definitely better than a scammer.

Saying that... claiming that he scammed is still valid since accepting money while knowing that you can't fulfill the contract is scamming. It only would not be if it would be the agreed thing to do.

I don't know why he decided to do this.

Anyway... when he really pays back then i suggest a slow and steady repayment plan. Then he could show he is still behind and working on it and hickups could be seen fast.

Calling around scammer might be true but for the sake of repayment it is better to set focus on repayment. Debtors dont want to put him into a state of mind where he gives up hope totally. That would be a business decision on the side of the debtors.

TO make it clear on this $5000 that just went missing. It was already agreed between me and this person that the coins he sent me were to be sold and then transferred to my bank. I did it in 2 seperate transactions his total was about $18k in bitcoin actually. I split it and sent him $9000 then during my second sell off this is when my account at the bank was frozen. I didn't have his entire sum in USD to pay him back but I had enough to send him another $4000 USD. Since that shortly after I was laid off while working at cex.io and the only income was through the forums and my websites. Thankfully in march I got a job building high level bridges. Unfortunately it does not pay nearly as much as I use to make working from home online. Which now being that my reputation is what it is. Its near impossible to continue trying to make extra income online after work.

I've already messaged the user who I owe the $5k to and will be making some payments weekly but until I am caught up on some more important debts I'm not able to afford to pay him back in large sums.

Yes there was a mistake, Yes I will fix it I am not a thief just a guy who had some bad luck. One last thing I can't stress enough is I am NOT A SCAMMER. Like I mentioned before if I was going to scam anyone it would of been during one of my group buys where I held onto as much as a quarter million in this forum communities funds, and not $5000 from a single user who had btc he wanted to sell.

Again I have full intentions of getting the 2 users paid back and hopefully my reputation will be repaired on this forum. After running those group buys and realizing that playing with large amounts of cash like that is not to be taken lightly. What I mean by this is IF I ever do something again in my future I learned a very tough lesson when it comes to gambling with the IRS. I can also confidently say that this was the first and will be the last time in my 7 years of online trading that I have ever been put into a corner like I am in currently. I've let a lot of people down especially the ones I owe the cash to but I will do everything it takes to earn back this communities trust and hopefully one day look back at my forum handle and see green again. I've been under a lot of stress and depression but each week i'm able to put myself back together a little bit at a time. I was very close to filing a chapter 13 bankruptcy but thankfully the job I got in march has saved my ass just enough to where I'm able to crawl back out of the hole I got myself into. The funds that I no longer have access to should also be available to me again before the end of the year and you'll bet the first thing I"ll be doing is giving back the money owed to andres. As for Svhb I should have his $450 paid back in the next couple of weeks.

I agree with you, but this kind of quote given above:


betrays a different mindset, and that's the one I'm arguing against.

I don't like this kind of excuse either.. look im just a human and i commit mistakes, so i had to fuck up other people too and  so that both of us have a problem to deal with

so, remove that mindset of yours coz scam is scam.. this is not about good or bad, this is about his action of not keeping his part of the deal.

I appreciate your reply, but your answer seems brief and it appears that you missed my point entirely.  I don't want to rehash it, but for the record, I am not approving of a 5K$ scam.  Please see the details of my two posts above if you actually want to catch my point.

I wonder if you would still be so keen to make up and give him a hug if you were on the wrong end of a $5k scam.  

Presuming the guy that sold the $5k worth of btc because he needed the cash  the fact that he may or may not get paid in the distant future is little comfort.