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Topic: ===►Maidak scammed me 400$ BTC,this time is for sure===► - page 6. (Read 18754 times)

legendary
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

I don't really think so. That's what he's been saying to me since we exchanged the Bitcoins. And he never sent me any of the $5000 he owes me since November/December 2014.

I dont understand why you waited SO long. I mean i waited a month too but it was not that much money. Is it change money for you? At least you should have threaten him with a scam accusation threat. That was what worked for me at the end. I gave him a week time and claimed after that i will open a thread.

Maybe OP would have had driven better with that too. First threaten to open a thread instead opening one from the start. Though im not sure if it would have helped with your amount. :/
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

I don't really think so. That's what he's been saying to me since we exchanged the Bitcoins. And he never sent me any of the $5000 he owes me since November/December 2014.
legendary
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

Surely i heard these words from issuers alot already. "Dont worry, i make sure you will make your money back", "Ill do anything to make it work". Problem is, i often still waited months later. Roll Eyes

So did he say something about what timeframe he means? And what is the hindrance for him in the meanwhile?

I will send you a pm and ask you if the second phone number i got from him is the same you got.

Well I can not say for sure either way (I like to think that he is telling the truth and will make everyone whole though). I only have his info from a project we were working on last year with a mutual friend.

Sebastian - we have different numbers I assume yours is a google voice number or something? We do have the same number - you just added a bunch of numbers to dial it from your country I assume.

It seems to be not only the country code i guess. Maybe its a service where you get nearly similar numbers for landline and smartphone or so.
legendary
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

Surely i heard these words from issuers alot already. "Dont worry, i make sure you will make your money back", "Ill do anything to make it work". Problem is, i often still waited months later. Roll Eyes

So did he say something about what timeframe he means? And what is the hindrance for him in the meanwhile?

I will send you a pm and ask you if the second phone number i got from him is the same you got.

Well I can not say for sure either way (I like to think that he is telling the truth and will make everyone whole though). I only have his info from a project we were working on last year with a mutual friend.

Sebastian - we have different numbers I assume yours is a google voice number or something? We do have the same number - you just added a bunch of numbers to dial it from your country I assume.
legendary
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

Surely i heard these words from issuers alot already. "Dont worry, i make sure you will make your money back", "Ill do anything to make it work". Problem is, i often still waited months later. Roll Eyes

So did he say something about what timeframe he means? And what is the hindrance for him in the meanwhile?

I will send you a pm and ask you if the second phone number i got from him is the same you got.
legendary
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He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.
legendary
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When something looks too good to be true it probably is.

What legitimate reason could the be for him to need $400 and be able to pay back $450 in an hour?

With the anonymous nature here/with bitcoin it really isn't too hard to build up a reputation then run when you get enough money.

This isn't the first time I've seen a "trusted" "reputable" person end up being a total scammer, and it really wouldn't be hard to do. I borrow 1 btc on this account. Then log into a second account and borrow 1.1 btc. Pay off the first guy, now with my rep for paying off my first load I borrow more to pay off the second guy. Now I have 2 accounts with a positive reputation and didn't risk/lose anything. Keep going until I can't get the next loan or I feel like I have enough money.

This guy did it by making trades instead of borrowing money but it's the same thing. Buy 1 btc from mark 1, sell 1 btc to mark 2, just move the money and coin from mark to mark (keeping a cut for himself of course) until you make a deal you can't follow through on or get a big enough score to move on.

I don't know Maidak very well at all but I can tell you that what you describe isn't the only thing he did.  He hired me for a job (writing some code for his website) and paid me on-time for that work.  My point here isn't to absolve him, just to say that loaning and borrowing wasn't all that he did.
legendary
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When something looks too good to be true it probably is.

What legitimate reason could the be for him to need $400 and be able to pay back $450 in an hour?

With the anonymous nature here/with bitcoin it really isn't too hard to build up a reputation then run when you get enough money.

This isn't the first time I've seen a "trusted" "reputable" person end up being a total scammer, and it really wouldn't be hard to do. I borrow 1 btc on this account. Then log into a second account and borrow 1.1 btc. Pay off the first guy, now with my rep for paying off my first load I borrow more to pay off the second guy. Now I have 2 accounts with a positive reputation and didn't risk/lose anything. Keep going until I can't get the next loan or I feel like I have enough money.

This guy did it by making trades instead of borrowing money but it's the same thing. Buy 1 btc from mark 1, sell 1 btc to mark 2, just move the money and coin from mark to mark (keeping a cut for himself of course) until you make a deal you can't follow through on or get a big enough score to move on.
legendary
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Not sure if that is a real number or some google voice number. I have a real number for sure as the area code matches where he lives. I will see if he responds, but not much else I can do really as all of his info is already public.
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Is there any chance that anyone who has spoken to him is willing to post what the reason he claimed to be away from the forum and unable to repay everyone? Eg where was it claimed that he is?
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$10,000 is a good amount of money, especially when you are long-term unemployed (his loan listing on BTC-Jam said he was unemployed), or even unemployed at all. Based on the fact that he was trying to take out a very large loan and was trying to start a group buy worth tens of thousands of dollars, I think it is apparent that he was trying to get away with more.

$10,000 is worth closer to $13,000 or $14,000 worth of income after you take into consideration the fact that taxes would not be withheld from any amount of money that he steals/scams. This could easily be 4 or 5 months worth of salary to someone making $35,000 to $45,000 per year.

He will most likely not go to jail over this as it would probably be reasonably implied that the money is a debt obligation of his. I also have heard a report that he was refusing to sign a message agreeing to the terms of trades so it would be possible for him to claim in court that his account was sold/hacked/ect. (however I would doubt this would be true, as if it was then I would think he would come back and claim as much)

I texted with him from may 4 till may 17. With the phone number in his profile: 0017174544274

I got a phone number from him he claimed is his private one. I think its fine at this point to post it: 0017174193511927

I didnt call him on that or get answers to my sms from there.

Sounds like you Blazed or your mutual friend might be the key to putting the squeeze on Maidak for some real answers, or to find out if he is really just buying time.

People in the Bitcoin community have been identified and still gotten away with much larger thefts before. There have been many examples but I'm mainly referring to dice sites DiceBitco.in and Dice.ninja. The combined thefts of those 2 sites were multiple millions of USD if I remember correctly.

Why didnt the victims sue? Many scammers were found already.
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$10,000 is a good amount of money, especially when you are long-term unemployed (his loan listing on BTC-Jam said he was unemployed), or even unemployed at all. Based on the fact that he was trying to take out a very large loan and was trying to start a group buy worth tens of thousands of dollars, I think it is apparent that he was trying to get away with more.

$10,000 is worth closer to $13,000 or $14,000 worth of income after you take into consideration the fact that taxes would not be withheld from any amount of money that he steals/scams. This could easily be 4 or 5 months worth of salary to someone making $35,000 to $45,000 per year.

He will most likely not go to jail over this as it would probably be reasonably implied that the money is a debt obligation of his. I also have heard a report that he was refusing to sign a message agreeing to the terms of trades so it would be possible for him to claim in court that his account was sold/hacked/ect. (however I would doubt this would be true, as if it was then I would think he would come back and claim as much)
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Sounds like you Blazed or your mutual friend might be the key to putting the squeeze on Maidak for some real answers, or to find out if he is really just buying time.

People in the Bitcoin community have been identified and still gotten away with much larger thefts before. There have been many examples but I'm mainly referring to dice sites DiceBitco.in and Dice.ninja. The combined thefts of those 2 sites were multiple millions of USD if I remember correctly.
legendary
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I know the number I have is legit because of the area code. What number is everyone referring to exactly? I also know someone (who I have met face to face) who is friends with him...as in not online friends etc..

Edit: I just sent him a message...will update.
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10k scam thats a big ammount so even high members as him scamming?
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Why should he do an exit scam for 10k when he knows we know his address and name?

Do we know for certain that the details people have are legit? And 10k is still a lot of money, but some people don't care about the repercussion or assume they wont get caught but he could have provided false or fake info from the start to build trust and confidence.
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It doesnt make much sense to me. He isnt rich with >10k USD when he still used his old skype account.

Oh... *checking something* no, as long as the phone number in his profile is the same from long ago then he still texted me from his phone. I thought he might have given me another phone number, which he did, but he actually answered with the one in his profile. I thought i need to check because i never was able to reach him, or getting added, on skype. Which might have meant the one owning the account cant access the phone number and he mentioned skype only to let me believe he is the real deal, without ever wanting or being able to add me. Though thats not the case when the profile page didnt change.

So what we have is the same person, the profile wasnt changed in the last months, right?

Why should he do an exit scam for 10k when he knows we know his address and name?

For me its more likely the story he told me is correct. I guess ill write about without going too much into detail. He mentioned mentioned skrill and bank account frozen. He claimed a bad illness in the family which might explain everything happening. He doesnt have enough money to care because of the illness, so he starts to take it where he can in order to safe the one. Loses bank account, job and all. But still takes money from the forum because he would prefer going to jail than not paying the hospital.

Im not sure how valid his story is but at least it makes somewhat sense to me that he will scam for that amount, knowing that he is known in person.
legendary
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thats a shame the dude has more then 10k plus in scamming money...

whats more alarming is that no actions are being taken against him, besides the dox of posting his info?

take him to small claims court at least, unless this is already being done.
legendary
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Well I should probably clarify my conversation wit him a little more. I was supposedly texting his brother as Maidak could not physically be at his phone. His info is very public so nothing to really dox here...shame if he does not try to fix this.
Did his brother not give any information about his whereabouts ? If he did take someones money before any incident, then he should atleast have someone leave an update on here unless he is in a very bad accident. There is no other reason not to.

Brother and accident are more than likely excuses just to buy time. Surely maidak's brother could have returned the funds but haven't there been other scams in the meantime? How many people were scammed and on what dates?

I have no idea honestly...I just sent a text to his phone and got that reply. He told me where Maidak was currently and said just tell everyone 2 weeks.
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Well I should probably clarify my conversation wit him a little more. I was supposedly texting his brother as Maidak could not physically be at his phone. His info is very public so nothing to really dox here...shame if he does not try to fix this.
Did his brother not give any information about his whereabouts ? If he did take someones money before any incident, then he should atleast have someone leave an update on here unless he is in a very bad accident. There is no other reason not to.

Brother and accident are more than likely excuses just to buy time. Surely maidak's brother could have returned the funds but haven't there been other scams in the meantime? How many people were scammed and on what dates?
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